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06-12-2017, 11:03 AM | #31 |
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Ahahahaha, Kiriya is totally playing Cronus isn't he? He's gonna steal the spotlight as my favorite all over again! I don't have much to say about this episode besides the fact that I really loved it. I don't think the Proto Bakusou Bike Gashat is really that weird though. Some games change a LOT during development after all!
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06-12-2017, 12:17 PM | #32 |
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Yeah he has to be. My guess is that he actually was programmed to be evil and Emu reprogramming worked but he's just playing Cronus now. I remembered Cronus said something to Hiiro about changing the consciousness of those who were stuck as data when they brought Saki back. So I really think Kiriya wasn't faking it at the start but now he has to be. if he did this out of his own free will then he wouldn't join their side later on like he does in the movie.
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06-12-2017, 04:04 PM | #33 |
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But the thing is....Kuroto's still not really a "good" guy. Sure, he's an ally to our main cast, but he's still just as egomaniacal and crazy as he was before; the other Riders were just able to appeal to his personality to gain his allegiance. His reasons for joining up with Emu and gang are still inherently selfish ("Kamen Rider Chronicle and Poppy are my creations, and nobody messes with them" or "I want payback against the guy that beat me"). Hell, just last episode, he was willing to let Hiiro's dad die just to hide information from Pallad and Graphite about Gemdeus. He's by no means a noble character (yet).
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06-12-2017, 06:57 PM | #34 |
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Honestly, I thought this episode felt like a step down from last week's. Kiriya's betrayal means a lot less after Hiiro's emotional betrayal, especially since it's pretty obvious Kiriya isn't really on Elder Dan's side.
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06-12-2017, 09:39 PM | #35 |
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Hey, Excite Subs? Love the work, keep it up, but if you fabricating plot points through mistranslations is the price I pay for the episode releasing early, I'd rather just wait a couple extra days. All Emu said there was "Dan Masamune must have programmed Kiriya to act like a different person to use him as a pawn". This should be glaringly obvious simply from watching the episode, given the whole back half is about trying to Re-Reprogram Kiriya back to normal. Anyway, loved the episode: - Emu got tired of being the world's punching bag and punched back, which was going to be my (seemingly now obligatory) opening picture, followed by a joke about him finally snapping after all the s*** he's been through, but alas, there wasn't a good frame for it, so instead you get whining about fansubs. - Kiriya-san ain't no dang traitor! No way no how! Unlike Hiiro his behavior throughout this episode is WAY too glaringly out of character for this to be legit. I mean, a black coat? Come on, that's so on the nose he probably went out and bought it specifically because he thought it'd be hilarious. The only shred of doubt here is that Emu, unlike Kiriya, hasn't been known to give performances that convincing. Unless you count that time he tricked the other Riders into fighting him so they could all use Drago Knight Hunter Z to fight Graphite. Or that time he shoved a gun to his chest and told Poppy to pull the trigger since she's just an evil Bugster. Huh. - Speaking of which, can I just reiterate how much Emu has been back on track lately? This isn't specific to this episode but he's successfully combined his early show nigh-invincible self and his second quarter misery magnet self into a character who has this compelling sense of gumption to him. He's like Kouta, except instead of just saying how much he'll never give up, he actually does it. - I guess we have an opening narration now? That's something, I guess. It's like the actual show is so consistent and planned out they had to balance it out by constantly messing with the intro. - Also I've been noticing the past couple weeks that the actors aren't credited as "Kamen Rider (so and so)" if they don't actually transform that week, so I'm just sitting there going, "oh hey, no Brave this week! Lame!". It's like the actual show is so full of twists and turns they had to balance it out by spoiling the episodes in the intro. - Although the episode title is also completely misleading. Or is it?!
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06-12-2017, 11:21 PM | #36 |
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But the thing is....Kuroto's still not really a "good" guy. Sure, he's an ally to our main cast, but he's still just as egomaniacal and crazy as he was before; the other Riders were just able to appeal to his personality to gain his allegiance. His reasons for joining up with Emu and gang are still inherently selfish ("Kamen Rider Chronicle and Poppy are my creations, and nobody messes with them" or "I want payback against the guy that beat me"). Hell, just last episode, he was willing to let Hiiro's dad die just to hide information from Pallad and Graphite about Gemdeus.
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I'd prefer we don't go into Faiz territory where everybody's just being really petty when there's countless other things going on that need to be dealt with.
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06-13-2017, 06:31 AM | #38 |
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I guess they changed the script in the middle of first Arc??
, im guess the actual story for Ex Aid, Kiriya is not dead, Kiriya still using white jacket as Coroner, Genm too, there is no Chronos because Dan Masamune still in the jail, oh wait, that is the movie lol |
06-13-2017, 07:26 AM | #39 |
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Great episode, Sakis condition is very creepy and Kiriyas return was great.
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06-14-2017, 03:32 PM | #40 |
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Who knows how long this'll be up, so get it while it's hot.
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