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05-06-2022, 11:50 PM | #981 |
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I honestly do believe that, at least in concept if not in execution, that the dynamic of Sougo and Geiz is as central to this show as say Sento and Banjou is to Build, but its just that Zi-O goes about it in a different way. There were like twenty different scenes in Build where Sento and Banjo boost one another up by demonstrating their perfect understanding of each other. And I liked just about all of them!
With this story... like, Geiz is the hard one to get, but this episode still finds time to reunite Sougo with Tsukuyomi, and lament Woz'z absence. There's a ton of power in the Geiz/Sougo story, and the series is 100% aware of it, but Sougo isn't a one-friend guy.
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05-07-2022, 03:06 AM | #982 |
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Not much to say about this one. All I remember is that the scene of Specter fighting Another Ghost became prominent after Kiramager vs Ryusoulger was announced, for semi-obvious reasons.
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05-07-2022, 09:25 AM | #983 |
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Oh yeah, Sayo's doppelganger's big brother fighting Asuna's doppelganger's big brother. Very meta.
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05-07-2022, 09:19 PM | #984 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZI-O EPISODE 43 - “2019 - TSUKUYOMI CONFIDENTIAL”
Honest question: does anyone care about Swartz’z reveal here? The absolute best part of the episode for me was when Tsukasa claimed that all of this Time Nonsense family drama was very easy to follow, leading to Geiz’z accusatory demand to explain it if it’s so simple, only for Tsukasa to pivot to it not really mattering beyond Swartz being the Big Bad. It’s funny, but it’s also clear that even the writer of this episode isn’t prepared to answer any of the myriad questions that spring up from this episode’s It Was Swartz All Along reveal. It’s a smart move for the episode, but a dumb move for the series. The only thing that really matters in this episode is that Team Zi-O needs to defeat Hiryuu to get the world back to normal, and then take on Swartz. The why/what/how of Swartz’z plans and backstory are, in the moment, completely irrelevant. He’s just one more obstacle, the end. Spending even a single solitary second trying to understand anything Swartz tells Tsukuyomi is time that’s better spent on defeating their immediate foe. But it’s all so dumb. It doesn’t make sense for Swartz to share his power with Heure and Ora, since he was always going to need it back and they contribute nothing of value to his schemes. It doesn’t make sense to leave a fully-powered Tsukuyomi alive in an alternate timeline, when he wanted her dead and needed her power. It doesn’t make sense to do all of the Another Rider schemes, since Swartz wanted the throne for himself this whole time. The idea that Swartz wants to be king is fine. The thought that he’d make his move now is reasonable. The reveal that this is all proceeding according to his design is a massive distraction, and a really disappointing plot development. …Which only really matters if you care about the plot, and literally no one in this story does. It’s incredibly weird to have a dumb plot development - that’s going to make me less enthusiastic about this series in my memory going forward - occur in an episode that still manages to be entertaining. Such is the magic of Heisei Kamen Rider! It’s an episode that colossally bungles its series arc, but still concludes this three-parter with an enthusiastic focus on meat-and-potatoes tokusatsu storytelling and exhilarating character reunions. As dumb as the Swartz stuff is, the scene of Woz trying to make Geiz think that he worked under Woz as Zi-O’s servant was worth a hundred of those idiot reveals. Stuff like that is what I look for in a Kamen Rider series, not some tightly-woven series plot. That would be nice! But it’s not ruining my day if ain’t here. It’s going to be a thing I bring up a lot in the future when I talk about Zi-O, though. It’s so dumb. I don’t care about it. Does anyone?
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05-07-2022, 09:32 PM | #985 |
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Swartz's thing here is uh... meh. Which is why in my story I really don't plan on him taking the final villain role. The Time Jackers are honestly pretty meh during this final arc and Hiryu is still the best villain in Zi-O for me tbh. I have a second favorite but we'll be getting to him soon enough. Other than that I enjoyed the more personal beat stuff here and the funny little gags here and there. Like the one Die mentioned of Tsukasa and Geiz talking about Swartz.
That being said, fun fact! I'm pretty sure the one Another Rider not counted for in terms of being killed is Another Wizard! He just stops existing after the first fight. Anyway this episode is great because we brought back the Heisaber and really it's a shame that I think this is the last time we see it? I feel like if Grand was to have any kind of weapon, the Heisaber is perfect given its Rider Ability function. Next time for BGM Swaps, OST which I assume relates to our guest, Drive's preview theme, Decade's preview them and Future Guardian for some reason? Zero's Legend Episode Previews Corner - EP 44 Preview: |
05-07-2022, 09:54 PM | #986 |
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I could very easily make my usual statement about how Tsukasa ruins everything, but really, that is so minor in the grand scheme of why I ended up really disliking this three-parter.
This arc made me really worried about the final stretch of a show that, up to now, I was rather enjoying for the most part. A plot that makes no sense, action that does nothing to impress, and characterization that felt like a huge step backwards. I was excited to have Hiryu back, but yet again, he's given basically no focus in what is supposed to be his arc; Almost like it's done as some unfunny in-joke on the part of the writers. Heck, why is going back in time to save the people on the bus never once even brought up? Not like the laws of causality are at all being thoroughly followed at this point in the show anyway, so why not? The Time Jacker focus has always been a mess too. They almost had me rooting for Herue around the time of Kikai due to how he was being mistreated and seemed to be wanting to break out on his own due to that... only to completely forget about it, because why give a character an arc, I guess. Diend is here, and he's always a delight, but at the end of the day, that's it. He's really just here to pad out the run time. What a waste. Sure, the rooftop scene of Sogo and Geiz is nice and all, but it's severely undercut by nearly an hour and a half of story that I very much did not care for. And pulling this sort of thing now is a huge misstep for a show that I was looking at very fondly up to now give-or-take an arc. Just, yeah, if this is what the last stretch has to offer, then I have a feeling I'm not about to enjoy these final episodes very much.
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05-07-2022, 10:31 PM | #987 |
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Maybe Sougo should be a one-friend guy at this rate, though...
That big exposition dump is absurd how many new holes it opens in the plot all at once, while being about characters I am incapable of caring about beyond wishing they'd go away. It's kinda extra sad because I found the rest of the episode pretty underwhelming! I haven't revisited the episode since it aired but I don't think there was any notable emotion behind Woz coming back to Sougo's side. There's big climax with four riders vs all the Another Riders, but there's no tension or particularly interesting action, and Sougo overcame Hiryu's power just because. Also i feel I might as well say because thinking about this episode made this thought come up, but I don't really care for Tsukasa and Kaito in this show? They are ostensibly recurring characters, but it feels to me that show is content with just having them go through their usual iconic motions and lines while acting as plot devices (I guess this is enough for some people but I already mentioned the aspect of the show that's just referencing old shows isn't something I go wild over). As of yet, they feel glorified cameos in that sense, no more integrated into the show than any other Legend Rider appearance despite their number of appearances and new merch. |
05-07-2022, 10:56 PM | #988 |
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There mostly isn't. It's Woz feeling embarrassed by his ruse, and Sougo being okay with it because Woz was just doing what he thought was best. It's hilariously minor.
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05-07-2022, 11:13 PM | #989 |
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05-07-2022, 11:31 PM | #990 |
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Episode 43~
-Arguably, I cared in the sense that it very much pushed a villian I was always kinda bored of into the realm of frusturatingly dull. I've never been particularly a fan of Rider "masterminds", (with only a handful sticking in my mind after the credits starts to roll), but Swartz? The man is so devoid of anything- cunning, charisma, fun dynamics/foils with the heroes- that I'd rather literally anyone else take a stab at playing mastermind than him, even if it makes less sense than Swartz...... -At this point, Hiryuu being so one-note about his hatred feels hilarious in a twisted sense, it's like he's forever frozen in a speific point in time. -Uncle gearing up to go save Tsukuyomi himself was very sweet, even if it was supposed ot be a gag. -God I wish there was more to the Time Jacker betrayal than what we got. I feel like there was lots of potential missed with those two. In my initial watch, I really liked Heure and Ora, but now I think that was in the sense I've might've been filling up the holes there with my own personal headcanons/theories and whatnot. Bummer..... -Oh yeah, this is the closing episode to the penultimate arc btw, we're officially in endgame territory now. Kinda a sour note to end on, as my feelings about this AU 3-parter mostly range from neutrality-frustrating, just like how I felt on my initial watch. Hopefully Zi-O sticks the landing...? - But hey! On the flipside of all this negativity, I think there's no better point in time than this to jump into OQ and the HBV, I've been really looking forward to those discussions! |
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