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07-22-2021, 01:17 PM | #401 |
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Leaked Revice Henshin Sounds
https://streamable.com/amp_player/9u...mpression=true
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07-22-2021, 01:20 PM | #402 |
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A helpful quote from archdeco over at over-time
"For those of you just waking up, we found out that Subaru Kimura will be playing Kamen Rider Vice. Kimura has recently made a number of racist posts to social media, including appearing in blackface and mocking African culture. When confronted over it, he deleted the posts and blocked anyone that brought it up. This is not a cultural mishap. Kimura was born in Germany, he is fluent in English, and he's spent some time in the US, even appearing on Broadway. He would have known exactly what he was doing." A lot of relevant context here, this is just a snippet but you can read the whole thing in the announcements section of their discord if you're interested |
07-22-2021, 01:25 PM | #403 |
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Leaked Revice Henshin Sounds
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07-22-2021, 01:30 PM | #404 |
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Maybe Toei is trying to appeal to American racists? /s
More seriously, I'd have to think long and hard about this if I was in a position to give Toei money (even indirectly), but as things stand nothing I do will matter one way or another so I'll probably just watch Revice and put this out of my mind the same way we all forgot about Touma's actor doing... whatever it was he shouldn't have done. Along with any problematic things I notice in Kamen Rider itself (we all know this show isn't great to its female characters, for starters) and wish were better but won't drop the series over. If anything, I might feel even less guilt about watching Revice unofficially than I do for other toku (since I can't watch most of it officially). Yo-ho-hoi!
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The mask you wear by choice shows more about you than the face you were given by chance. Last edited by FairyKing; 07-22-2021 at 01:39 PM.. |
07-22-2021, 01:47 PM | #405 |
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More seriously, I'd have to think long and hard about this if I was in a position to give Toei money (even indirectly), but as things stand nothing I do will matter one way or another so I'll probably just watch Revice and put this out of my mind the same way we all forgot about Touma's actor doing... whatever it was he shouldn't have done. Along with any problematic things I notice in Kamen Rider itself (we all know this show isn't great to its female characters, for starters) and wish were better but won't drop the series over. If anything, I might feel even less guilt about watching Revice unofficially than I do for other toku (since I can't watch most of it officially). Yo-ho-hoi!
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07-22-2021, 01:59 PM | #406 |
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the only thing I agree with is that instead of trying to forget about this he should've apologized. no shit he's a garbage person but I'm not gonna watch revice's inevitable awesome moments and think to myself "damn, too bad vice's va is racist". that's just fucking stupid LOL
gonna be totally honest - hate the guy all you want but I find it very easy to detach voice actors from the characters. I honestly think it's delusional to drop a show before it even starts or allow your enjoyment to be affected by this. the guy has landed way bigger roles than kamen rider since doing the dumb shit he did and he's bounced back. WAY bigger people than him have done dumber shit and bounced back. trying to cancel someone over some silly shit they did in the past is such an american thing to do. if it doesn't reflect in his work and he hasn't done or said anything stupid since then, I see no reason why it should affect you or your perception of the series and its characters. and of fucking course not you aren't impacting his paycheck by pirating this show anyways. this franchise has had on-screen actors doing silly shit that are harder to separate from their characters than this. you aren't condoning or supporting behavior for enjoying their work. I myself absolutely adore Vic Mignogna's voice acting, but I am still 100% convinced the allegations against him are correct and that it's a shame. Last edited by Chasing; 07-22-2021 at 02:08 PM.. |
07-22-2021, 02:01 PM | #407 |
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Americans don't give Toei any money for watching Rider and recently pissed them off by flagrantly talking about fansubs @ official Twitter accounts.
Blackface is wrong. However it will literally never come up as the person is only voice acting. I also don't think a kids show that's primarily meant to sell kids toys is the platform to explain to average Japanese people why blackface is offensive. It's also wrong to lay blame to the franchise for an actors mistake that he did while he wasn't under any contract with the franchise. |
07-22-2021, 02:25 PM | #408 |
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That's an obsession strictly driven by 2000s social medias era grown-ups interested into digging into anyone's background to search for any tiny (or big in his case, no belittling it) bad moves someone does. Not saying his attitude should be overlooked. That's a bad example and he should not do that. But c'mon raising forks and saying "I don't want him in the show" ? from a community full of nobodies (including myself in it) watching shows illegally ? That takes the cake. I hope for people being disgusted to the point they don't want to watch the show (totally fine with that. That's the right attitude to protest actually) that they won't dig too much into any show or movie they liked from when social medias didn't exist. Because they'll be flabbergasted by all the stuff they find about the actors or producer or I don't know who that were role models before |
07-22-2021, 02:31 PM | #409 |
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99.9% of the kids watching this show won't even know who the guy is or what he has done. The VA being a douche or a saint question wouldn't even come to their mind.
That's an obsession strictly driven by 2000s social medias era grown-ups interested into digging into anyone's background to search for any tiny (or big in his case, no belittling it) bad moves someone does. Not saying his attitude should be overlooked. That's a bad example and he should not do that. But c'mon raising forks and saying "I don't want him in the show" ? from a community full of nobodies (including myself in it) watching shows illegally ? That takes the cake. I hope for people being disgusted to the point they don't want to watch the show (totally fine with that. That's the right attitude to protest actually) that they won't dig too much into any show or movie they liked from when social medias didn't exist. Because they'll be flabbergasted by all the stuff they find about the actors or producer or I don't know who that were role models before
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07-22-2021, 02:51 PM | #410 |
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I just hope that there won't be a group of people who'll harass any fansubber who does Revice or fans who watch it because they equate that to supporting the guy, when he's literally one dude out of like, a bunch of people working on a show. And because of the fact that fansubs in and of themselves are already not directly supporting the show.
Like I do think this is an important topic and he shouldn't be doing that at all (and I wish they had chosen someone else), and I'm glad that there's a good number of people who aren't going to be like what I fear, but knowing the internet, there WILL be people like who I fear that'll come up. Because like, watching/reading something does not equal supporting a person 100%. Like if someone like Takuma Terashima can keep getting roles after the shit he did in 2012 (one of which was Ultraman Taiga), it's not a big stretch to think that someone like Vice's voice actor can keep getting roles. Though I'm not really sure if Terashima ever actually apologized for it. Last edited by MKDremare; 07-22-2021 at 02:55 PM.. |
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