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05-02-2012, 10:37 PM | #1 |
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Since we don't have a forum for strictly Power Rangers discussion I wanted to start up some discussions about old school ranger series stuff, so first I will start with Turbo.
The first thing I want to discuss is the movie, do you think it is cannon and why or why not? Second, What do you think the Turbo powers are, the Zeo powers just in a new form, or an entirely new form of power from the Morphing grid? Third, who is the Phantom Ranger? I think the EVENTS in the movie happened but I wouldn't consider the movie itself cannon, too many things off about it, zords looking different, weird powers that never get used, things like that. I'm not even going to get started on the Power Chamber, I will save that discussion for another topic. I have heard some people say they think the Turbo powers were based off the Zeo powers, but I doubt it considering Tommy used his Zeo powers in Forever Red. The only thing that bothers me is there is no MAIN source to power the keys, unless they are tapped right into the grid. As far as the Phantom Ranger goes, it's got to be BIlly. He can build zords, and so can the Phantom Ranger. If Phantom Ranger loses his power ruby, he starts dying, if Billy isn't treated with that water stuff from Aquitar he starts becoming an old man and dying, that suit probably protects him from harsh conditions. I just wanted to get some fun discussion going, feel free to add to this, and have fun everyone!!
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05-02-2012, 11:09 PM | #2 |
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Turbo eh?
Well, let's start with the obvious. I'm a firm believer of the Zeo powers just getting too strong for it's own good. Linkara's overview of the series stated the the Zeo powers were constantly growing. I don't know why he never thought "Maybe there's a certain extent before they powers become dangerous for constant usage", but that's what I'm sticking too. As for the Turbo power themselves, they have to be completely separate from the Zeo powers. That's pretty much the only way Turbo Red and Zeo Red could exist simultaneously in Forever Red. I consider the movie non-canon. Plain and simple. Laragot was stupid. For the Phantom Ranger, I think he's an alien, not Billy. It just doesn't make sense for Billy to keep his identity a secret from the others. There's no reason (He even explained this when they started thinking he was the Gold Ranger in Zeo). |
05-02-2012, 11:27 PM | #3 |
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The movie IS cannon if you watch the first 3 episodes of Turbo. There are plenty of situations in Power Rangers history that was a one shot deal. I don't see why you would not see it as cannon?
As for ZEO, Zordon didn't want that mess around in the first place but had no choice but to use it when the Ninja Powers were killed off. So like "Matrixbeast" said, it was too powerful to be in use so they kept it around until the Turbo Powers were completed. As for the new look of the Power Chamber. I just seen it as a remodel, Zordon just finished building the Power Chamber when ZEO started. And the Zord cockpits, that HAD to be changed to incorporate the Turbo Carts inside the Zords cockpits. The armor on the Turbo Zords in the movie was called "Turbo Shield Armor", used to protect the Zords during stationary combination. The Turbo Rangers draw their powers from the morphing grid, their Morphers ARE their main source, just like in Power Rangers in Space etc... Having coins and crystals just proved not to be safe obviously seeing they were always getting "destroyed". And the Phantom Ranger... don't care who he is, I like him being a mystery like AkaRed.
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05-03-2012, 12:09 AM | #4 |
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Thanks guys, I never thought of the Zeo powers becoming too strong for the rangers own good, I'm definitely going to watch his reviews and discussion on the series and see about that some more.
Also I have never seen CarRanger, was the Turbo carts being added into the zords a CarRanger thing or was it in the US episodes somewhere and I just missed it? I'm sorry I am picky about details, but this was my favorite series after all and I don't want to miss something like that. Also Matrix, I didn't think about that as far as the Phantom Ranger goes, you are probably right.
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05-03-2012, 12:36 AM | #5 |
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Also I have never seen CarRanger, was the Turbo carts being added into the zords a CarRanger thing or was it in the US episodes somewhere and I just missed it? I'm sorry I am picky about details, but this was my favorite series after all and I don't want to miss something like that.
There's a good shot right at the opening of this video.
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05-03-2012, 12:44 AM | #6 |
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Honestly, I firmly believe the Movie was Canon. Why wouldn't it be? Like Gibson said, they've done weird oneshots before. And it explained why Devatox was on Earth in the first place. I will forever be a defender of the original movie. Ooze was an awesome villian, and aside from how the zords looks, it was excellent. And that's one thing I didn't like about Turbo. It was basically a pilot for the new season, when they could've done something so much more.
As for the Zeo powers. Usually when the rangers got new powers it was because the old ones were decimated. Dino Coins became Thunder Crystals, Crystals became Ninja Powers, Ninja became Zeo. And I see the Turbo powers as more of a side-step. They didn't need more power they just needed a more focused power they could use to stop Devatox and Laragot. If he's the big lava monster I'm thinking of. It's like when they went into Space. They didn't really need space powers, they just needed to go to space to follow the kidnapped Zordon. Thats why he was able to use them again in Forever Red. Because they weren't destroyed, they just needed something different. Phantom Phantom Phantom. I don't think Phantom is Billy. I love Billy, the Actor and the Character. But if he was the phantom he would've dropped hints. Especailly seeing Tommy again. I wish they dove deeper into him though, but like everyone else, I also like the mystery. Ammendment: The Command Center changing is like I said earlier with the Zeo Powers. It was good, it didn't get destroyed, but it needed changed because they needed something different for a new enemy. |
05-03-2012, 12:57 AM | #7 |
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I don't remember anything about "Thunder Crystals"... Power Crystals maybe but that was still Season 1.
I don't see why people thought Billy was the Phantom. Phantom Ranger was from Eltar like Zordon. And then Billy <3 Cassie? Ew! lol!
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05-03-2012, 01:45 AM | #8 |
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I don't remember anything about "Thunder Crystals"... Power Crystals maybe but that was still Season 1.
Yes they did. The toys came with them, remember? The zords did anyway. I don't see why people thought Billy was the Phantom. Phantom Ranger was from Eltar like Zordon. And then Billy <3 Cassie? Ew! lol! |
05-03-2012, 01:58 AM | #9 |
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Yeah that was never in the show. Just like the Battle Bikes & Thunder Bikes, just toys.
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05-03-2012, 07:49 PM | #10 |
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Power Rangers Turbo, from a series standpoint, was really the series that changed Power Rangers as we know it. And by "change as we know it", I mean it was the first time the series was in danger of cancellation due to incredibly poor ratings and steady declining viewership. After changing actors at the halfway point, the series saw some increase in numbers, and thus the cast was kept on to do "In Space", which was meant to be (in all seriousness) the end of the Power Rangers, if it was not picked up for another xx amount of seasons.
Power Rangers Turbo basically brought everyone to the reality that the show (and viewership) was growing up. Bulk, Skull, Ernie, Lt. Stone, Tommy, Tonya, Kat, Adam, Rocky, and the previous villains from the last 4 years were all abandoned (yes I know three of the first four were still there, but it was in even less capacity than Bulk and Spike are in Samurai) and we were given entirely new Rangers, new villains, and an overall different feel to the show. Was Turbo a bad season? If you look at it episode-by-episode, for an overall arch, yes, the show was pretty much a let-down. But if you look at it as a transitionial series between the original era (MMPR, Zeo, Turbo, In Space) and what was to eventually come (Lost Galaxy thru Dino Thunder), it served as basically the foundation to how every series was going to be approached there-on. I know it makes no sense that Turbo would serve as a foundation to Lost Galaxy and not In Space ... but you have to remember, In Space was planned while Turbo was still happening (and Saban thought it was space-oriented, not video-game oriented), and they threw every last dollar at it because the thought was Power Rangers would end and this would give the show a proper finale. Once they realized it was NOT the end, they kept the "space" theme, took the things they learned from "Turbo", and we got the Tzachor-era, where every team changes and the only "throw back" to previous years is the team up episodes. Turbo is NOT my least favorite season however. That right is reserved for Operation Overdrive. |
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