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06-24-2022, 02:43 AM | #131 |
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Okay, I promised to talk about two Easter eggs, and talk about them I shall.
One of the posters on the wall is for “Haran Banjo” a boxer with dragon-like features who’s best friends with a rabbit and whose catchphrase appears to be “I won’t lose”. Another poster, this one reused from Muteki’s debut in Ex-Aid, is for “Magical Girl Koyomi in Magicaland”, whose main catchphrase is “Now, it is show time”, produced by “Shiroi Mahoutsukai Productions”. And the VA going up against Seine for the role in Perfuman Tsurugi is portrayed by Mariya Ise, another actual VA. I mostly know her as Cure Lemonade in Yes Pretty Cure 5 and Bonnie in Pok?mon XY. This week’s Magia (which I have to be frank, is my favourite in the whole show) is based off a frog (obviously), specifically the gastric brooding frog. And now, to show off the hypothetical form for this episode. Progrise: R-R-R-Raimei! Raimei, Dengeki! Lightning Hornet! Piercing needle with incredible force. And now to show off both the Legend Rider key that came from this, along with the second one to come from Flaming Tiger. Legend Celebrate! RiderTiming Zi-O! An honourable and kind demon king. D-D-D-Decade, Delete! The World! KamenRiding Decade! Destroyer of Worth-worlds(sic). Last edited by Androzani84; 06-28-2022 at 11:42 AM.. |
06-24-2022, 07:02 AM | #132 |
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Now that we got a proper look at the ForceRiser and how it works, I would like to say that I love the thematics of how it works. Instead of the animal volunary merging with the suit, it straps it down as the parts try to escape!
I also like the detail that the straps are still visible on the suit. Nothing screams "bad guy suit" quite like this visual remind of how not nice the Forcerisers are. |
06-24-2022, 08:49 AM | #133 |
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KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE EPISODE 6 - ?I WANT TO HEAR YOUR VOICE?
Memorializing someone through technology, it?s become more and more commonplace. Facebook pages are left as monuments to lives, photos are preserved digitally, machine learning is bringing stills to life? and that?s not even counting speculative tech like holograms or whatever. Quote:
What we get here is messy, and that?s as it should be. Seiji knows he broke the law, and he knows that buying a simulacrum of his deceased daughter to live out that woman?s unrealized dreams is, at best, uncomfortable to witness, and at worst, nauseating to telescope out. (It definitely robs that deceased woman of her individuality and personhood, flattening her existence down to Daughter and nothing greater.)
Like, Seiji probably does have psychological problems going through his daughter's death, but that's something that needs some understanding from other party to potentially improve the suspect's condition, of which of course a typical primary Rider like Aruto can do his job well there, being conflicted on what to do against someone that is wrong but tragic like Seiji, had to be either punished or being understood, not to mention, being pretty harmless in his practice (other than Magia stuff, of which at least his love for his daughter is genuine, if not probably misguided here), though perhaps the device Aruto gave him is even more private as you said. Though Aruto's 'replacement' of a father was given to him instead of being made like Seiji's, that'd be the drastic difference. Quote:
Added to this exploration of a parent?s love is Jin?s attempt to understand what it is to be a son to Horobi. For Horobi, it?s the best possible definition for a lifeform he made, and that's all. For Jin, it comes with expectations of affection and support, which turn out to be laughably mistaken once Horobi slaps a Forceriser on Jin and says Go Kill. Luckily (for us, only for us) that leads to an exciting action sequence where the brand-new Kamen Rider Jin proceeds to wipe the floor with Zero-One. Valkyrie shows up to sell the new Lightning Hornet Progrise Key, defeating the episode?s Magear with electricity attacks (!) and chest bees (?!), and it?s all very thrilling. Super fun action sequence.
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The problem, for me, is that the action sequence is almost hilariously incongruent to the pathos and sorrow of the preceding two Acts. We pivot from a man trying to navigate a future without the person he cared the most about, and a robot boy trying to understand what means to have a parent, to a frog-headed monster (with a smaller, human-sized head inside its mouth) and a mute supervillain brawling with superheroes. It all happens so gracelessly that it?s almost offensive, and it keeps the finale from feeling like a natural consequence of the story we were invested in. It?s like someone put the last reel of Iron Man at the end of Ordinary People. We were having a nuanced, complicated discussion about processing grief, and then the episode blew all that up to, uh, blow stuff up.
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I?m a big fan of the MetsubouJinrai suits. Probably my favorite designs for the whole show, that I?ve seen? I like how Jin?s suit is highly symmetrical, but the different types of metal add a discordant look to everything. (Which the SO-DO stickers replicate really well!) It?s even and uneven simultaneously, which is tough to pull off without looking goofy. The different textures to the metal add to the feeling that this suit is kit-bashed, stolen from another source. The straps continue that expression, missing the cleanliness of Zero-One and the shiny craftsmanship of the AIMS suits. This one?s aggressively tactical and practically hotwired. It looks like a villain suit. The helmet?s a nice finishing touch, the profile of a soaring falcon giving the eyes a menacing triangular shape. Quote:
-Grief is such a complicated thing. It hits differently for everyone, and similarly with how people cope. Because of this, I feel a bit awkward judging a character's actions during grief and how they process it. Beside the Obvious Dangerous Methods, it just feels terribly scummy to say "This character should've handled their grief in X or Y way!" because of that, yknow? Essentially comissioning a robot and turning them more or less into your daughter because you can't get over her death, it's......No words, really.
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-The ending for Seiji, ah....I say I dont like judging chars by how they react/cope with grief, but I wonder, is that solution really for the best? Only time will tell. At least, for now, Seiji can grieve without the threat of jailtime over his head.
-I'm not sure what kind of a future where we rely an AI for emotional support is like, or if I'd even want something like that, but surely if it's able to help even a handful of people, perhaps I wouldn't mind it.
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06-24-2022, 10:22 AM | #134 |
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The fact that we?re witnessing such raw and intimate emotion means this isn?t really a story with a lesson, and I appreciated that. Suggesting there?s a singular correct and healthy way to grieve a child? god, talk about abhorrent. What we get here is messy, and that?s as it should be. Seiji knows he broke the law, and he knows that buying a simulacrum of his deceased daughter to live out that woman?s unrealized dreams is, at best, uncomfortable to witness, and at worst, nauseating to telescope out. (It definitely robs that deceased woman of her individuality and personhood, flattening her existence down to Daughter and nothing greater.) He?s a man that?s grieving, and he?s trying to figure out how best to honor a memory while preserving his sanity. Aruto?s solution is to give Seiji a few days to wind things down, because even the massive goodwill and sincere sympathy of Zero-One needs to be balanced against destructive self-deception. (Fuwa?s version of goodwill and sympathy is to not immediately shoot both Seiji and Seine, and that?s to be commended.) There?s nothing that?s a sure fix; Aruto?s been in Seiji?s shoes, and he knows he can only hope to cushion this guy?s fall. However, I would also like to talk about how all of this affects Seine, specifically the AIMS law invented to protect people's intellectual rights. Was it wrong for Seiji to commission Seine the way he did? Yeah, probably, but he wasn't in the right mind. But Seine didn't ask to be born in to the world, she didn't ask to become a copy of some dude's dead daughter. The AIMS law dictating that she has to be "destroyed" over something beyond her control, her face, is the worst look so far in to how society discriminates against HumaGears and I feel like she's the biggest victim in all this. Now Seiji has lost two daughters and he has to find a way to live with that guilt and move on, somehow. Quote:
KAMEN RIDER ZERO-ONE SO-DO AI 03: KAMEN RIDER JIN - FLYING FALCON
Overall, it?s a really eye-catching suit. We?d seen Horobi in low-light and cameos appearances, but this is the first Forceriser suit we?ve gotten a good look at. The gray and pink/magenta absolutely pop, and it looks like a suit that can give Zero-One a run for his money. Big fan of this one! Quote:
And Zero-One isn't the only piece of media that features a dead family being remade in a robot resembling them, like for example the game featured in Ex-Aid that fueled Nico's early character also had that, Tekken, of which of course the creationg being based on a family member won't be addressed much either in negative or positive light (probably due to the creator not being featured much, Seiji is featured even if only for a week).
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Okay, I promised to talk about two Easter eggs, and talk about them I shall.
One of the posters on the wall is for ?Haran Banjo? a boxer with dragon-like features who?s best friends with a rabbit and whose catchphrase appears to be ?I won?t lose?. Another poster, this one reused from Muteki?s debut in Ex-Aid, is for ?Magical Girl Koyomi in Magicaland?, whose main catchphrase is ?Now, it is show time?, produced by ?Shiroi Mahoutsukai Productions?. Quote:
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Like, Seiji probably does have psychological problems going through his daughter's death, but that's something that needs some understanding from other party to potentially improve the suspect's condition, of which of course a typical primary Rider like Aruto can do his job well there, being conflicted on what to do against someone that is wrong but tragic like Seiji, had to be either punished or being understood, not to mention, being pretty harmless in his practice (other than Magia stuff, of which at least his love for his daughter is genuine, if not probably misguided here), though perhaps the device Aruto gave him is even more private as you said. Though Aruto's 'replacement' of a father was given to him instead of being made like Seiji's, that'd be the drastic difference.
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However, I would also like to talk about how all of this affects Seine, specifically the AIMS law invented to protect people's intellectual rights. Was it wrong for Seiji to commission Seine the way he did? Yeah, probably, but he wasn't in the right mind. But Seine didn't ask to be born in to the world, she didn't ask to become a copy of some dude's dead daughter. The AIMS law dictating that she has to be "destroyed" over something beyond her control, her face, is the worst look so far in to how society discriminates against HumaGears and I feel like she's the biggest victim in all this. Now Seiji has lost two daughters and he has to find a way to live with that guilt and move on, somehow.
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06-24-2022, 12:10 PM | #136 |
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I'd like to think that Seine's backup was installed in that Humalexa at the end, but I'm not sure how that feels to Seine. (Do A.I. care that much about a physical form?) But, you're right, it's weird for a show that's about how Humagear deserve a lot of the same protections as people to have an episode go You Should've Never Been Born and just sort of not talk about what that means for the Humagear.
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06-24-2022, 12:31 PM | #137 |
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I must catch up on this show! but also I have a lot to do feck.
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06-24-2022, 01:40 PM | #138 |
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I've always kind of wondered about AIMS' authority and legal standing. Like, can they legit arrest people? Fuwa kind of acts like a cop sometimes. I guess if it involves Humagears it's under their purview.
I guess it's no surprise when you can make the Humagear of your dreams that those dreams could possibly run into a bit of playing God...especially when the Humagear actually starts acting like your daughter. I haven't seen a Kaijin that sad in a while. Jin finally realizing "Oh wait, maybe these people I've been hacking and reprogramming into killing machines and thinking we're friends now...maybe didn't want to be killing machines!?" Also I just like how he calls Aruto "Zero-One," like...yeah, he wouldn't care enough about humans to care about Aruto's real name, so he'd use his Rider name. C'mon Yua, it would've been fine if not for Metsuoboujinrai. Then again, it wasn't probably healthy for the Humagear to start thinking she was actually his child. Then again part of me thinks a seiyuu Humagear is kind of cheating because they can physically modulate and alter their voices/sounds to reach the perfect pitch without any of the physical work flesh and blood seiyuu do. Maybe it's for the best, in more ways than one, that it didn't work out. Lightning Hornet! Is Valkyrie the first female Rider with form changes? I do like the Wasp theme and the fact that she has a Rider Kick. Both of Yua's forms are just really cool. Kamen Rider Jin! First evil Rider debut (at least proper debut) and he's already making trouble for our heroes and keeping them on their toes, bonus points for basically stealing a form from the main hero, which you don't see often. I really think the purple + silver combo works well with the suit and comes off as like an evil mirror of Flying Falcon while still being distinct as a Rider suit. I don't know if daughter Alexa really solves the main issue, but I guess the man needed something to make up for the loss of his daughter. |
06-24-2022, 03:25 PM | #139 |
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I doubt Aruto would've agreed to do that, since it would probably undermine his desire for humans and HumaGears to stand as equal. I figure there's probably some basic parts of Seine's personality installed in the HumaLexa for Seiji's comfort, but I imagine it would suck for a sufficiently advanced learning AI to be stuck inside a box, without a way to Take Off Towards A Dream.
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On the other hand, if there's anything Fuwa loves as much as replacing Humagear innards with bullets, it's yelling at people for caring about Humagears, so I can see him snaking this task from Yua. This was one of those endings where the characters choose the least-worst option available to them, and sort of hope for the best. I like that!
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06-24-2022, 05:52 PM | #140 |
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You know, I held off on making this joke in the Zi-O thread because I just love Sougo and Geiz's dynamic too much, but between Kamen Rider Geiz, Kamen Rider Woz, Kamen Rider Tsukuyomi, Kamen Rider Jin, and Kamen Riders [REDACTED], do you guys ever wonder if the real reason Geiz and Jin always call people by their Rider names is because they just assume every Rider simply goes by their actual name?
Anyways, yeah, Kamen Rider Jin is pretty cool. I mean, it's Eitoku in that suit, so the body language is naturally top-notch, and it basically goes without saying that a suit design from Zero-One is a winner. The Forceriser is probably my favorite belt from this show, too? I too mourn the loss of Aruto's Tori-chan, but the show definitely gave us something to make up for it. As for the episode itself, this is another one I'm a huge fan of. I believe the way I put it after my recent rewatch was that it's not simply a great episode of Zero-One, but a great Zero-One episode. The kind of story *only* this show could tell, told in a super engaging way. I can't think of much to say besides an old-fashioned "yes yes, that that" to a lot of what's already been said. (Same for the MetsubouJinrai suit aesthetic, for that matter.) Especially the whole "Zero-One is interested in sparking debate" part. I'm kind of reminded of how Ryuki ended up being the show it did in part because Shirakura thought it was presumptuous for a show to simply tell kids what justice is, as though the people making the show are the ultimate authority on that. I definitely appreciate the idea of a series that's more concerned with presenting something for the audience to think about, instead of trying to think on their behalf.
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