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05-07-2015, 07:16 PM | #31 |
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No. Don't even try. His constant presence was felt throughout the series to something bigger, but he was a merely an enforcer/second in command (After what's his face died) during the Warstar, a bit player during the mutants, and he was borderline mindless during the machine portion.
He was not the primary antagonist through the series. |
05-08-2015, 12:58 AM | #32 |
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To be the main villain, he doesn't have to be in command for the whole thing... Enter also became the big baddie last minute. Long didn't appear until about half of the series and made his move even later. Zet came in somewhat later too. Deboss wasn't even present until shortly before the finale. The list goes on. Also, it's much easier to infiltrate and manipulate an existing group than to just go and say: Eeeyup, I'm your new leader now! Especially because Buredoran was weakened and had to gain enough strength first. |
05-08-2015, 12:46 PM | #33 |
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Watching Goseiger for a third time atm and I would agree on this one. While he was not directly in a leader position, he did manipulate the others to do what he wanted. If it had worked, yay! But I think he ultimately knew it would fail, so he just kept scheming. Admitted, he didn't expect being betrayed by the Yuumajuu, but once he came back, he continued his plan.
To be the main villain, he doesn't have to be in command for the whole thing... Enter also became the big baddie last minute. Long didn't appear until about half of the series and made his move even later. Zet came in somewhat later too. Deboss wasn't even present until shortly before the finale. The list goes on. Also, it's much easier to infiltrate and manipulate an existing group than to just go and say: Eeeyup, I'm your new leader now! Especially because Buredoran was weakened and had to gain enough strength first. |
05-12-2015, 11:31 PM | #34 |
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You kow I lost a little respect for you, Sentai saying ToQger is the worst. Lol, also why do people seem to hate Goseiger so much? I have only seen episode one an vs Shinkenger but it seems great. Oh and 199 heroes. Anyway,
Best:ToQger, I just love it so much. Worst: haven't watched one I disliked so... |
05-13-2015, 12:09 AM | #35 |
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2: "Too many factions. It's just super distracting, man." 3: "The Mecha designs are so uninspired. Where's the angel motif? Swapping animal heads, an ostrich? How about a card machine and a big bland gray robot with a face for a chest? Stupidz!" 4: "It's too boring! It's not like Shinkenger's heavy drama or Gokaiger's Grand love letter to the franchise! Ergo it sucks eggs." Sentai thoroughly you disapproved Number one (though I will add this: Brajira's cyborg form rendered him "I have no mouth and I must scream" where while he was unable to do much or speak his mind, he was still scheming away and breaking through every so often), and number two is very easy to disprove on the simple matter that people often want to see another season to their favorite Sentai to which I say: "If you don't like the structure of Goseiger, then you won't like seeing sequel seasons to your fav Sentai because Goseiger is it just like how that would be. The Warstar? That's one season. The Yuumajuu and Metorantis are two more seasons. Goseiger keeps a good pace which I find spares it of any problem that the villain swaps cause." 3 is personal preference, but I still disagree since I like the giant robots. All of them. And 4 is just unfortunate timing where a very good show is placed between a samurai drama and a clip show. |
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05-13-2015, 05:27 AM | #36 |
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One thing that I do love about Goseiger is how they explain why each ranger has their personality quirk. Most seasons of any series won't do that, even with established characters. Like Bart Simpson is the stereotypical hell-raising kid just because that is how Matt Groening wanted him to be. Each of the Gossipers have a focus episode to explain why they are how they are.
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05-13-2015, 05:55 AM | #37 |
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I'd say what is "Best" or "Worst" is subjective and more a matter of opinion. Like, for me, I enjoy all Sentai. Some more than others, but I'm not sure what to put as "Best" or "Worst".
Though, take out personal opinion and more facts, looking at ratings and toy sales gives one a pretty clear idea of what would be "Best" or "Worst" in Japan. Worst 1. JAKQ 2. Go-Busters 3. OhRanger 4. Fiveman 5. Goseiger Best 1. Jetman (AND HOW!!) 2. Gorenger 3. Liveman 4. Megaranger (Helped bring a new audience to Sentai) 5. Gingaman (Brought back the adult audience) Honorable Mention: Zyuranger (Mostly due to MMPR. LOL) I'm mostly going off what I assume is the norm in Japan, when talking about the best and the worst. Again, it's all subjective and opinion based, so many people will have many different answers. |
05-13-2015, 08:55 AM | #38 |
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One thing that I do love about Goseiger is how they explain why each ranger has their personality quirk. Most seasons of any series won't do that, even with established characters. Like Bart Simpson is the stereotypical hell-raising kid just because that is how Matt Groening wanted him to be. Each of the Gossipers have a focus episode to explain why they are how they are.
And, while I do not like stoic Reds as much as the happy type (like Alata or Right), I could still accept Takeru because I took him for what he is and not for what I want him to be like. I don't know why so many people judge the characters for what they aren't instead of for what they are. |
05-13-2015, 03:28 PM | #39 |
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People generally dislike the Goseigers for no good reason. Their usual reason is: The Goseiger's suck because they're not like [insert other team here]. For example, Alata is often criticized for not being the stoic red, like Takeru/ShinkenRed. But that is imho what makes him unique and likeable.
And, while I do not like stoic Reds as much as the happy type (like Alata or Right), I could still accept Takeru because I took him for what he is and not for what I want him to be like. I don't know why so many people judge the characters for what they aren't instead of for what they are. Each season is supposed to offer something unique and different. How would the Goseiger/Shinkenger versus movie have been if Takeru and Alata were exactly the same? Or if Alata was exactly like Marvelous? Or if Jan and Akashi were the same? There has to be variation between the style of the show and the characters or they might as well just sign folks on for a three or four year run. But that would create a whole new list of problems. I will admit that the entire time watching Goseiger, I was waiting for Alata's badass moment. Every red has one. He showed flashes throughout the season, but nothing that stood out until he blocked Brajira's attack with his bare hand leading up to the final fight. That was badass and got me really hype. Lol |
05-13-2015, 04:57 PM | #40 |
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I will admit that the entire time watching Goseiger, I was waiting for Alata's badass moment. Every red has one. He showed flashes throughout the season, but nothing that stood out until he blocked Brajira's attack with his bare hand leading up to the final fight. That was badass and got me really hype. Lol
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