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02-04-2014, 05:59 PM | #8981 |
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SPLIT LIP, did you finish Kiva?
They do eventually explain the reason why Nago was so anti-Kiva at first (and he did get over it as he got to know Wataru), and I seem to recall Megumi did improve a bit as well, after all, she did use Ixa for a while (but then again, can you even name one character who didn't? Ixa got around more than TheBee.) And the entire reason for the existence of the BSO is to fight Fangires to keep them from murdering humans all the time. The weapons monsters ARE kinda explained, though I don't know if it's an explanation you would appreciate, I thought it was kinda cool. Quote:
Compared to Nago who for half the series was either an asshole with a superiority complex to everyone around him or stupidly homicidal when ever he saw Kiva,Wateru who tries to commit paradox-suicide when the girl he liked stupidly got herself killed,Taiga an ungrateful brat who tried to force a girl he knows likes his best friend to marry him then has the gall to ask said best friend to join him,Kengo who because of an accident becomes a huge asshole to people trying to help him.
Note: I would have said Shizuka but she wasn't in the series as much. Shizuka was awesome, and she should have been in the show more. Though I never did figure out if she knew that Wataru was Kiva or not. |
02-04-2014, 06:01 PM | #8982 |
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I like how my critique of Accel's design exploded into a Kiva bashing session
After I finish W I kinda wanna give Kiva another chance just to join in on the bashing.
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02-04-2014, 06:02 PM | #8983 |
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Hatred of Fangires? What about his hatred of Kiva? I couldn't stand to make it any farther into Kiva, but all his stupid, reckless hatred towards Kiva seemed to only exist because some old idiot who makes ridiculous names for his company existing of four damn people told him Kiva was a threat to humanity, despite Kiva only ever killing Fangires and not people. Nago would eta a spoonfull of dirt if you told him it was chocolate, but not before staring intently at it with really bad acting before saying this dirt was what will prove him as the ultimate human being or some garbage.
Kiva was just a REALLY dumb show with a few sprinkles of good and excellent flare. It was honestly painful how many self-entitled swaggering idiots populated Kiva, from the "I'll just let this monster kill this innocent woman so I can really weakly insult him without an audience and take the moral high ground" or "I'm so injured and in serious pain so when a random passer-by comes to help me I'll punch his God-damn lights out", and the more I think of it the more I totally cannot blame you for thinking Heisei is full of dicks if this is 1/3rd of your Heisei exposure. Honestly, the people in Kiva seem wors ethan the Fangire, since at least Wolf guy and the Fangire usually kill people for sustinance. Not a single character in Kiva gives a shit about human life, and it's revolting. My problem with Kiva isn't just the dickishness of the cast but that the show treats it as being okay for them to act like this.(Otoya,Nago,Wateru and Taiga being the worst imo) |
02-04-2014, 06:03 PM | #8984 |
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Similiarly, I want to watch Kiva again, so I can defend it better. It's been a couple years since I saw it, and I loved it, even knowing that everyone else hated it.
Kiva is awesome, and I hate you all (except the ones that like Kiva). |
02-04-2014, 06:40 PM | #8985 |
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It's just frustrating. Kiva himself isn't even that bad, but the writers feel like confused 14 year olds writing for confused 14 year old, but there's one guy there trying to make the show work and appeal to others. Kiva is a terrible show I really, really want to like, but can't. Also, Accel's design didn't lead to this. Yellow Ranger mentioning Kiva led to Kiva bashing. Well guess there really is no point to continue now that THAT little bomb's been dropped. Quote:
Compared to Nago who for half the series was either an asshole with a superiority complex to everyone around him or stupidly homicidal when ever he saw Kiva,Wateru who tries to commit paradox-suicide when the girl he liked stupidly got herself killed,Taiga an ungrateful brat who tried to force a girl he knows likes his best friend to marry him then has the gall to ask said best friend to join him,Kengo who because of an accident becomes a huge asshole to people trying to help him.
I said Megumi was the smartest in Kiva because she was the only member of the BSO willing to consider that Kiva wasn't evil and the most likable because she doesn't spend half the series being a bitch to people or go emo and try to off herself because someone she liked got themselves killed. Now I'm SUPER glad I didn't continue Kiva. If Megumi legitimately is the smartest... God damn. Last edited by SPLIT LIP; 02-04-2014 at 06:43 PM.. |
02-04-2014, 06:46 PM | #8986 |
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To be fair, Wataru isn't a fangire, exactly.
he's a half fangire, it's not like he can feed on humans. |
02-04-2014, 06:59 PM | #8987 |
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Kiva is frustrating because it's not just bad, but it has a shitload of good things about it. But they're mostly superficial. The suit, song and bike? All incredible. Feel like they belong in a different show.
It's just frustrating. Kiva himself isn't even that bad, but the writers feel like confused 14 year olds writing for confused 14 year old, but there's one guy there trying to make the show work and appeal to others. Kiva is a terrible show I really, really want to like, but can't. Also, Accel's design didn't lead to this. Yellow Ranger mentioning Kiva led to Kiva bashing. Well guess there really is no point to continue now that THAT little bomb's been dropped. Shit. Now I'm SUPER glad I didn't continue Kiva. If Megumi legitimately is the smartest... God damn. |
02-04-2014, 07:03 PM | #8988 |
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Spoilers, spoilers everywhere.
I kinda feel like we should make individual threads for each series as this IS the Kamen Rider sub forum. It seems weird to have all the chat in a single thread where everyone is tripping over one another's spoilers, I dunno why this has never bothered me before.
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02-04-2014, 07:09 PM | #8989 |
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Spoilers, spoilers everywhere.
I kinda feel like we should make individual threads for each series as this IS the Kamen Rider sub forum. It seems weird to have all the chat in a single thread where everyone is tripping over one another's spoilers, I dunno why this has never bothered me before. |
02-04-2014, 07:15 PM | #8990 |
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But if you know someone else in the thread is watching it, it's still not fair on them to ruin it.
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