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11-07-2020, 04:21 AM | #16171 |
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From what I can tell, GataKiriBa is meant as a reference to how insects reproduce incredibly quickly. But yeah, someone got fired for this shot, because it cost the budget of an Ultraman Nexus episode (very specifically) to produce.
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11-07-2020, 04:46 AM | #16172 |
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I still wonder if such a feat like that would still be viable at this current age what with technology and all. And also made me wonder why they didn't keep the multiplying form but just in smaller numbers now. Limiting it to something like a shadow clone jutsu. Normie comparison, I know.
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11-07-2020, 05:25 AM | #16173 |
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I still wonder if such a feat like that would still be viable at this current age what with technology and all. And also made me wonder why they didn't keep the multiplying form but just in smaller numbers now. Limiting it to something like a shadow clone jutsu. Normie comparison, I know.
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11-07-2020, 06:37 AM | #16174 |
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in the infamous "what is OOO's final form" arguments, one answer I remember seeing was "all of them". And I can't remember if it was a joke or not, but it's actually a very good answer because this is how the forms are handled -- by episode 6, OOO has already gotten as powerful as he can ever get with one exception.[/I]
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One small thing this does help is making her friendship and support with Takeru shine that much brighter. She doesn't believe in Ghosts, or Ganma, or Eyecons or any of the rest of it; she doesn't actually believe Takeru died and he needs this adventure quest to restore him back to life. But despite all that, in that previous scene where Takeru breaks down, she sees how much it's effecting him and comforts him and supports him the best way she can.
Anyway, this is low-key one of my favorite Ghost episodes. You think Rider shows have good premieres and that Ghost nailed that, but I've always believed the second episode is secretly one of the most important, illustrious positions in all of the franchise. It's the show's first real chance to dig into what it wants to do and be about, and Ghost did that pretty much perfectly. I remember not particularly being grabbed by the first episode way back when it aired, but this one grabbed me for sure. I love the elaboration on the themes (Infinite Potential™ gets mentioned! In the second episode!), and some of the slower scenes that there wasn't time for in the lightning fast-paced first outing. Like you said, Takeru's whole breakdown feels super genuine, and always sticks out to me when I think about why I like how this show writes its characters. ...And also, the way Takeru says "KANTAN NI IU NA YO!" always makes me crack up for some reason. Like, it's not even a poor line reading, and I think Shun Nishime did a wonderful job in that role, but it just always puts a smile on my face, the same way the "Kamen Rider Ghost" bit in the premiere does. Huh. I might be starting to understand why this show's opening narration is a meme.
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11-07-2020, 06:54 AM | #16175 |
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Personally, I actually didn't like how early Full Combos were introduced in OOO. I'd've preferred we see atleast one Core Medal of each color beforehand. I'm a big fan of things starting small and growing bigger over time(whether it be power scale, the stakes of the story, what have you), and introducing Full Combos this early puts and emphasis on getting to those as soon as possible, rather than the early emphasis of gaining multiple tools to use in a variety of ways., which I dug more.
Not an out and out terrible thing by any stretch, but my own personal tastes at work.
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11-07-2020, 08:57 AM | #16176 |
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11-07-2020, 11:17 AM | #16177 |
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Personally, I actually didn't like how early Full Combos were introduced in OOO. I'd've preferred we see atleast one Core Medal of each color beforehand. I'm a big fan of things starting small and growing bigger over time(whether it be power scale, the stakes of the story, what have you), and introducing Full Combos this early puts and emphasis on getting to those as soon as possible, rather than the early emphasis of gaining multiple tools to use in a variety of ways., which I dug more.
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11-08-2020, 10:33 AM | #16178 |
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Kamen Rider OOO Episode 7
Something really fun about rewatching these shows in a spread-out fashion like this; one episode every few days rather than binging? It really makes you appreciate just how long it took for certain things to actually happen. Eiji staying and working at Cous Coussier. Absolute status quo. That's just where he stayed and what he did and he has a big secret identity shtick with Chiyoko. Big main part of the show. ... and we're only now getting to it on Episode 7. If you'd asked me before when it happened I would have guessed by the end of episode 2 or 3, but no; Eiji and Ankh have been wandering around for almost 2 months hunting medals and beating yummy! And they still kind of are because Eiji's not actually staying there yet! Chiyoko and a very surprised Hino are trying to convince him, but... wow, y'know? Such a simple thing as a basic setting and OOO completely eschews that. It's great because it allows this to feel so much more natural a development and also allows Chiyoko and Hina to start off as their own characters than as an excuse for Eiji's base of operations. I've had several episodes to enjoy seeing these characters and their interactions play out and especially see Eiji's situation - which is more helpless than he's willing to let on - so it makes you want to see this happen and want to see Eiji accept their offer to move in despite not wanting to impose on them. I really like this style of storytelling where it makes you want to see a certain thing happen rather than make you get used to it as a base part of the show. There's quite a few firsts in this episode, in fact -- Gamel for the first time is shown in full force and we get introduced to his style of Yummy; we see the rest of the Greeed acting on the same modern technology as Ankh has; and we start to see Gotou develop a bit more. Up until now he's been a largely silent stoic guy just carrying out Kougami's orders, but he's letting his own emotions and opinions and desires show a lot more now as he gets increasingly fed up with both Eiji's seeming ineptitude and Kougami's whims and games. It's an understated part of the show, I feel -- everyone who loves this show will go on and on about Eiji and Ankh, and that's definitely the biggest thing; but I have to show Gotou some love as I adore the relationship he starts having with Eiji as his reluctant helper. It's a fascinating dynamic where someone much more professional is helpless to watch someone far more inexperienced go about it in all the wrong ways. Most of this is just set-up so I didn't think I'd come away with a lot to say, but this is OOO; of course I found three things to go on about! Kamen Rider Ghost Episode 3 I'm really starting to notice a running theme here of the A-plots not being a big thing of mine, but what they're being used to say about the characters absolutely is. I mean, I'm not too fond of the lesson being that Sawa here just needs to ignore corruption and go back to her journalism? Kid's show and hardly the main topic, yeah, but if you're gonna do a story literally talking about how corruption in the corporate and political worlds can not just ruin but actually take peoples' lives due to funneling illegal money? I don't know, I think you're gonna have to take that a little bit more seriously than "journalism will save the day!". Maybe Sawa'll get to be in some other masked rider show that more seriously analyses this topic. Perhaps a couple years from now? ... naaah, sounds fake. They'd never do something like that. So, what can I take away from this episode that insists the legends of Robin Hood are as real as Musashi and Beethoven (which, c'mon, bit silly; we all know England doesn't actually exist)? The steadily growing confidence of Takeru as a person, Akari's dedication to her closest friend, and Onari hiding his desperate need to help under a bluster of comic relief. Seriously, this time around I'm finding a lot to like in these characters' drive to just do something even when it seems out of reach! Sure, it all conveniently worked out for them, but... Akari getting that little push and help from Sennin doesn't delegitimise all the work she's putting into something she doesn't even believe in purely because she wants to help Takeru; Onari getting a boost in popularity from Little John turning herself in doesn't mitigate the hard work he's doing outside his normal skillset to hurry Takeru back to life; and Takeru... man it's hard not to feel bad for Takeru in this one. The "my dad is also dead" bit might have been a bit weak, but the emotion this actor puts behind it certainly isn't; and continuing on from last episode's bout of depression he's clearly slowly learning to deal with it in his own way and it's not stopping him from reaching out. Despite how I feel about the context of the plot surrounding it, that hug he gave to Sawa and that encouragement he attempts to give her is a pretty beautiful moment and one that makes me respect what's going on with this character. It's subtly present in his fighting scenes, too -- his floating's still very shaky but he's got a lot more control over it than before; he's slowly getting his pep back... he's absolutely still relying on others for help and he has no idea how to use his Damashiis, but the kid's getting there. He's doing alright. also wow the condor phone shows up way earlier than i remember
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11-08-2020, 12:18 PM | #16179 |
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If people talk about Eiji and Ankh at the expense of Gotou, then that's a huge shame, because he's just as big a key to what makes OOO what it is as anybody else, especially when you consider how much of a recurring archetype Heisei Rider had made out of prideful guys with chips on their shoulders who disapprove of the main protagonist's beliefs and/or methods, and then consider the directions that OOO chooses to take Gotou in compared to them.
...but there'll be plenty of time to talk about that later, so I'll try and restrain myself from raving anymore about him quite yet. I'd say I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on some of those plot developments, but then, I could say that about any random thing in OOO, couldn't I? Quote:
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also who is Sawa??? that was clearly Arisa duh
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11-09-2020, 05:28 PM | #16180 |
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If people talk about Eiji and Ankh at the expense of Gotou, then that's a huge shame, because he's just as big a key to what makes OOO what it is as anybody else, especially when you consider how much of a recurring archetype Heisei Rider had made out of prideful guys with chips on their shoulders who disapprove of the main protagonist's beliefs and/or methods, and then consider the directions that OOO chooses to take Gotou in compared to them.
...but there'll be plenty of time to talk about that later, so I'll try and restrain myself from raving anymore about him quite yet. I'd say I'm looking forward to hearing your thoughts on some of those plot developments, but then, I could say that about any random thing in OOO, couldn't I? Takeru can definitely be a bit naive in his advice at times, but oh man, the Magic Hugs. To this day, one of my absolute favorite things in one of my absolute favorite shows. Ghost places an unreal amount of emphasis on the value of empathy throughout; it's what I feel makes Takeru truly unique, and there are few things that depict it more bluntly than these moments where he simply embraces someone and sheds a tear for their pain. I don't know if it was Fukuda or whoever that came up with the concept and decided to make it a recurring thing, but Ghost as a whole is so much better off for it. also who is Sawa??? that was clearly Arisa duh Okay, actually, and I know this is very specific merch but it's a pattern I REALLY notice whenever OOO comes up in merchandising and how the series gets remembered too. So, this W statue, right? W's front and center, but beside him you've got an array of Gaia Memories showing the main Dopants of the series; Accel; and even Eternal, all set against the backdrop of Futo City's iconic look. And sure enough all of these aspects are fondly remembered and excitedly talked about and bought up in an instant when it comes to W fans. OOO's statue in the same series? Beautiful, but it's just Eiji, Ankh, some medals and a pair of underpants. They didn't even hide the Greeed in their respective core medals despite having one of each type. And again, I love the look of both these statues (and they're very affordable by the way; at 50$ each I really had to talk myself out of getting them), but one's a lot more representative of the large array of characters you can find in the series while the other's concerned with one very specific relationship. And I find this in other merch and fan response, too -- the SODO and Seihou SHFs of OOO, for instance; very instantly went for a Combo Change gimmick and covering all of OOO's forms while also being very sure to sneak in an Ankh or two early on, and then Birth only got a special (premium bandai!!) SODO set later, AFTER the movie combos set; while Seihou Birth is nowhere to be seen despite all main combos except Putotyra being at least confirmed for release -- in media as well whenever they get OOO back in stuff like Heigen Final or Memory of Heroez the big focus is them. And then of course when it comes to fans they'll go on and on about how great Ankh and Eiji were, and might say very good things about the Births and the Greeed and Hina but you'd have to ask them. Man, I wonder if this is why we've never seen Poseidon or Aqua get any love... This is just my experience though and I could be having tunnel vision here, but it's definitely what I've seen anyway. I also hope this doesn't come across as judgy because, like, you take what you like from the show and frankly I don't blame anyone for putting all their love into Eiji and Ankh when their relationship is the highlight of the show and has so, so many complexities to dig into. It's just... a bit like getting into Takumi and Kiba but never bringing up anyone else from Faiz, y'know? ... wait i do that, i'm that person MAGIC HUGS. YES. Like okay yeah that's just describing exactly what's on screen but it perfectly gets what I'm liking about Ghost this time around And hey, don't feel bad about 'spoiling' stuff and talking about things you like in later episodes! Just means I have to pin your quote post for later
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