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09-13-2014, 09:23 PM | #1541 |
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I like it well enough. I had hoped it was a more conventional monster, but I don't mind what we got.
The bit at the end of time reminded me heavily of Midnight by RTD.
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09-13-2014, 09:47 PM | #1542 |
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Really liked this episode. It started off appropriately creepy, then got really interesting and mysterious with the Orson stuff, and then the last ten minutes were just jaw-dropping. My eyes damn near popped out of my head when it was revealed whose bed she was hiding under and again when we found out what that building was. All in all a fantastic episode.
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09-14-2014, 11:26 AM | #1543 |
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I enjoyed this episode. I was creeped out a bit because I have a habit of talking to myself when I'm alone. But I think that was the point. I think they already started forshadowing Clara's departure with Orson. She leaves to be in a relationship with/marry Mr. Pink there. I liked the ending. I loved it. I also appreciate they didn't show the boys face clearly, it would've ruined it somehow.
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09-16-2014, 10:50 PM | #1544 |
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How exactly are Weeping Angels, the Silent Priests, and the Vashta Nerada Sci-Fi species? Their premises, while indeed terrifying, seem too out-of-place for the genre and more at home in a fantasy setting. Sure the VN are at least similar to a brown rat/man-o-war hybrid in that they could evolve to work as a single organism and stow away on spaceships to spread to other planets( even though that STILL has some problems), but the other two feel more at home as Fair Folk or Yokai than a naturally occurring species subject to evolution like any other species.
Or perhaps I'm just missing something because I'm an unwashed heathen. After all I still think Daleks are the stupidest idea for Universe-conquering "Threat" in existance. Also, how do people watch this show? How do you jump in to something as long running like this and how can anyone that's not in Britain be able to watch it on a regular basis? |
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09-16-2014, 11:35 PM | #1545 |
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weekly downloads is how ive stayed into the show since the 9th doc, and just like star trek forget what happened before you jumped on cause it'll just get retconned in a few years anyways. the silence were explained as genetically altered but yea weeping angels and some of the others are kinda weird from a science point of view but I guess that's the fun of not trying to be so serious all the time. I choose to enjoy the show this way, the doc in my eyes is like all the heroes from my childhood, he-man,batman,spiderman,superman,optimus prime and literature heroes like robin hood, peter pan and others. he's a guy that wants to have fun but also do good wherever adventure takes him. he's what every adventorous kid wants to be. but this is just me. oh and when I say optimus prime as a hero I mean classic prime not heart ripping face smashing prime.
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09-16-2014, 11:39 PM | #1546 |
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Really liked this episode. It started off appropriately creepy, then got really interesting and mysterious with the Orson stuff, and then the last ten minutes were just jaw-dropping. My eyes damn near popped out of my head when it was revealed whose bed she was hiding under and again when we found out what that building was. All in all a fantastic episode.
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09-17-2014, 03:13 AM | #1547 |
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How exactly are Weeping Angels, the Silent Priests, and the Vashta Nerada Sci-Fi species? Their premises, while indeed terrifying, seem too out-of-place for the genre and more at home in a fantasy setting. Sure the VN are at least similar to a brown rat/man-o-war hybrid in that they could evolve to work as a single organism and stow away on spaceships to spread to other planets( even though that STILL has some problems), but the other two feel more at home as Fair Folk or Yokai than a naturally occurring species subject to evolution like any other species.
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Or perhaps I'm just missing something because I'm an unwashed heathen. After all I still think Daleks are the stupidest idea for Universe-conquering "Threat" in existance.
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09-17-2014, 08:34 AM | #1548 |
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Well for a start Doctor Who has always had elements of fantasy in it as well as sci-fi. Especially since Moffat over as show runner.
Secondly, the Silents are genetically modified beings so they aren't naturally occurring. I'm pretty sure hyper intelligent mobile tanks with zero mercy/tolerance for anything would be a pretty effective 'threat'. Looks aren't everything you know. Ah genetic modification/mutation, one of the Sci-Fi writer's favorite tools for explaining stuff. That works then. Though now I'm curious about why you'd bother putting a creature that you can't remember into a story. Are there beings that canremember them to balance it out? And yes, in concept Daleks, a species so xenophobic that they devoted their existance to wiping out the one thing that could stop them so the rest of the universe could be taken easier, is terrifying. But the main problem for me is just the design of the tank suits. The Sixties were FAR to campy for the idea of Daleks. If they looked like a mix of Diagnostic Drones from Beast Machines and a robotic jellyfish or something, yeah, then I'd be able to take them a bit more seriously initially. And yeah, they should be taken seriously. It's just that the design, albeit very iconic, just holds back the horror aspect. I know they can hover, but anything that rolls across flat surfaces and looks like it could be defeated by falling on its side I can't take seriously as a threat. How does one get back up after falling over? Were the Daleks still genetically healthy back in the Gallifreyan Genocide and not in the suits yet? And are all the non-suit Dalek tech the retrofitted remnants of the ancient Dalek armies? The lack of arms makes it hard to belie they can still pilot or manufacture anything in their quest to EXTERMINATE!!!! |
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09-17-2014, 08:39 AM | #1549 |
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The Daleks show their threat in the episodes. Very few Dalek episodes last without an immensely high body count, and they are more or less unstoppable when they do decide to fight back. More often that not the Doctor has to resort to some convenient plot device to win, and he never really gets ultimate victory over them.
They don't look like much, but their actions speak for themselves. They're extremely menacing in action, at least for me.
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09-17-2014, 08:41 AM | #1550 |
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I actually started with the 2005 series, but went back and watched all of the classic series (filling in the missing episodes with restorations, some of which better than others) and I enjoyed most of it immensely. There is a lot of material there that can flesh out the current series in fulfilling ways. Not all of classic Who is good, just like not all of the new series is good. But there are some real gems in there. Simply ignoring it all would be a loss. It's worth at least checking out the earlier Doctors, just to see the actual characters behind the faces that still crop up now and again. |
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