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02-02-2020, 02:22 PM | #18531 |
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Thanks for reminding me.
Please notice the scope of the issue: - Figure series: SHF and SHF SS - Character series: Kamen Rider - Problematic areas: Elbow and knee joint system, especially elbow one - Benchmark: the old SHF Kamen Rider elbow & knee joint systems So, please focus the discussion on those things, and please refute my points without straying from what I'm talking about. --------------------------------------- Could you please provide the link(s) to my posts where I stated or at least implied the idea of "Oh you've just been lucky, they WILL break"? I have re-read my previous posts and none of them stated nor implied that idea. Alright, it seems like you just enjoy this fear mongering/attention or something. The scope of the issue is not just limited to Kamen Rider. you're saying that because these "new joints" are more complex, they are more prone to breakage. But you acknowledge that the "Fighting Body" Figuarts line also has complex elbows joints similar to the SHF SS OOO's line. While they're not the exact same system, you say in your posts, HERE that adding complexity makes the joints weaker. Your constant mention of the WORST POSSIBLE SITUATION THAT COULD EVER HAPPEN TO SHF SS KAMEN RIDER OOO is getting tiresome. the worst possible situation that could ever happen to ANY figure... is it breaking, or being lost. and in case you need references to what I'm talking about, here are a few I've quoted: Quote:
...the most extreme one, the nasty one, the catastrophic failure, the systemic collapse: LIMB DISMEMBERMENT.
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" it will cause the same total structural failure, that is, mutilated arms."
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Using this reasoning, THE ultimate rational question to ask is:
"What is the WORST CASE SCENARIO (aka WHAT'S THE WORST THING THAT WILL HAPPEN) when the material DO reach its strength limit?" The answer is clear: TOTAL STRUCTURAL COLLAPSE. Quote:
What I have stated or implied:
This breakage issue is probabilistic issue. |
02-02-2020, 07:10 PM | #18532 |
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Alright, yeah. We get it.
It breaks, yes. Your OOO figure is now broken. Now, how about we stop bickering to each other about it? No doubt that Bandai is gonna push this type of joint into later SS figures like Den-O and OOO unless we actually let them know or they realize it themselves. Now, how about we come together and try to find a solution for this in the waking moment that ur Hino Eiji had his elbow dislodge into orbit. What if Bandai actually realized and somehow forgot the issue? What if there is someone at Bandai who actually warned of the issue and somehow his warning got lost in the sea of big corporation communication channel? What if consumers "bickering" on online forums, is the most feasible way to let Bandai be aware of the issue? A consumer trying to find a solution to this issue is a noble consumer. Yet don't let it be your only choice. The better, and the best solution, is solving the problem upstream. Of course, I consider all my "bullshit" here to be pointless once a third party company rises to the challenge and pick up Bandai's slack. Oh, and BTW I've never owned the SHF SS OOO. Several of my friends have. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote:
Alright, it seems like you just enjoy this fear mongering/attention or something.
The scope of the issue is not just limited to Kamen Rider. you're saying that because these "new joints" are more complex, they are more prone to breakage. But you acknowledge that the "Fighting Body" Figuarts line also has complex elbows joints similar to the SHF SS OOO's line. While they're not the exact same system, you say in your posts, HERE that adding complexity makes the joints weaker. in your understanding of my points. Adding complexity DOES make the joints weaker, thus more prone to breakage. And weaker joints, thus broken joints, do NOT necessarily result in mutilated limbs, like my own experience of having broken left elbow joint on SHF KR Scissors and cracked right knee joint on SHF KR Odin, both only resulted in slight reduction in friction. The Fighting Body figures have complex elbow joint system with mechanism similar to the one on SHF SS OOO, and it survived longer than its younger sibling. So, can we apply the same conclusion we achieve on the Fighting Body figures to the SHF SS OOO? Professor Snape would say: "Not... so fast, Potter." How come? The answer is in the old adage: "The devil is in the details." As my previous post stated: They are the obvious details you'll see, if you dig deeper. Deceptively obvious. Quote:
Of course I know about that point! The mightiest force of the nature, TIME, WILL destroy everything. EVERYTHING. SHF SS OOO with the new joint system, SHF SS OOO with the old joint system, vintage 5 point Kenner Star Wars figures, my sofubi figures, my car, my body, the Earth, Milky Way, Donald Trump, even the universe itself. That kind of all-or-nothing, black-and-white thinking was NEVER my point. Quote:
While I appreciate you contributing to the forums and having conversations,
I don't think there is anything of substance with our interactions other than for you to continue to preach impending doom about this line because of some perceived engineering fault. If you don't like them because you view them as structurally weak, that's fine and you can let it be known, as this IS a discussion thread. Just stop with this "TOTAL STRUCTURAL FAILURE" fear mongering. 'just stop with this TOTAL STRUCTURAL FAILURE "fear mongering"' is like telling me to stop warning a car company of high probability of accidents caused by their faulty brake system. I'm truly truly sorry. My ethical standards do not allow me to do that. |
02-02-2020, 07:50 PM | #18533 |
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Zolda, I’ll say it. Yes, while your concern over the new joint system over SS OOO is valid, you don’t need to clog the thread with it with these overly excessive posts. Drop it.
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02-03-2020, 03:51 AM | #18534 |
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You could write a thesis with that kind of paragraphs.
Anyway considering that SS today has some sort of gimmicks associated with them, what do you think will be in the future releases? I'd imagine SS Faiz would have glowing stripes like that one special edition. Man Faiz needs a SS so bad.
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02-03-2020, 05:07 AM | #18535 |
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You could write a thesis with that kind of paragraphs.
Anyway considering that SS today has some sort of gimmicks associated with them, what do you think will be in the future releases? I'd imagine SS Faiz would have glowing stripes like that one special edition. Man Faiz needs a SS so bad. SS Faiz with Glow in the dark stripes (Kaixa too plz and Delta.) SS Ryuki with mirrors as accessories. Even better if they're broken. AND working Ryuki Deck. (Doesn't have to fit all cards, just be able to take one or two from the deck and into the dragredder scanner thingie.) SS Blade with alternate worn-down suit helmet. (You know, the yellowed helmet) OR giant transparent blue ace card to mimic his transformation. SS Fourze with swappable modu- oh wait... SS Gaim with Arms change gimmick! SS Ghost with cloth/better jacket and swappable gimmick. HELL YEAH BOY! |
02-03-2020, 06:48 AM | #18536 |
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If SS Agito had been made around this time I wonder if they'd have just done it with all three base forms. Swappable arms and front chest armor feels pretty small potatoes by this point.
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02-03-2020, 07:37 AM | #18537 |
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Seihou Faiz with an incredibly small microscopic faiz chip for all his weapons that you instantly lose
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02-03-2020, 08:06 PM | #18538 |
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All Seihou Faiz needs is the sonic cannon from the HBV and that's an instant purchase right there.
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02-03-2020, 10:14 PM | #18539 |
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Better come with a tiny Axel Watch for Kaixa to chuck at him.
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02-03-2020, 11:17 PM | #18540 |
Showa Girl
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Has someone done that with an SHF Faiz Watch in its place yet? I feel like someone should do that
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