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09-05-2023, 08:06 PM | #17551 |
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Funny you guys should mention Kiva since that is the Kamen Rider series I'm currently going through and I often find myself keeping putting it off over the last several months and even still doing so now despite finally being at its last quarter. I want to like Kiva as a show, I truly do, but it's sadly coming off as a bit of a chore to get through half the time.
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09-05-2023, 08:17 PM | #17552 |
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Funny you guys should mention Kiva since that is the Kamen Rider series I'm currently going through and I often find myself keeping putting it off over the last several months and even still doing so now despite finally being at its last quarter. I want to like Kiva as a show, I truly do, but it's sadly coming off as a bit of a chore to get through half the time.
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09-07-2023, 03:48 PM | #17553 |
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I'd say it'd be ok for me as long as you won't dismiss any explanations given to you as them only being a sheep who just goes with the flow, or being overthinking in defending things due to personal bias (e.g. my explanation of Ace's past lives or finite happiness explanation - I hate double standards), or even going as far to spite them for explaining it or liking the series. Quote:
Likewise I hope it is clear why stuff I feel the way I do about some things the show did. For example I think several rounds of the game has low impact for me because I found the character growth for our mains relatively lacking and they felt like they could be incorporated into other parts of the show better. Similarly, I hope you can see how the audience criticisms can feel like they cast too wide of a net and come across like Takahashi bashing on Rider fans in general, since the show doesn't really show much in the way of normal DGP fans besides allusions that the show used to be different in the past.
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And then there's Keiwa, aka "we have Shinji Kido at home." I do not care for Keiwa. When the show started, I assumed he was going to be the Kagami to Ace's Tendou, but it feels a lot more like he was taking Shinji's role as the character who protested that the game was bullshit and that he just wanted to protect people. Except Shinji had a fire inside of him that made him compelling as a protagonist, while Keiwa just came off as a weenie. He sucked at Kamen Riding, sucked at changing anyone else's perspective on the DGP, and generally felt like a useless sad sack. The main reason I stopped watching the show was because I had absolutely zero interest in watching an arc where the show tried to have him go through an angsty evil phase because dear lord do I not have the patience for an evil Keiwa. I barely had patience for the good version.
Also, "changing anyone else's perspective on the DGP"? What Keiwa learns is to tolerate other people's wishes more. Anyone has a right to achieve their dreams, and wanting personal dreams and being a good person isn't mutually exclusive. Personally don't want for the DGP to be treated similarly as Rider War, the DGP chooses all kind of humanity, not specifically bad ones like Rider War does, and thus they can vary and wouldn't like for Keiwa to be treated as all bad which'd be just negative bias and cynicism in view of humanity (albeit ofc the DGP has nasty ones like Kanato or Kirito). Another twist is that Keiwa's more altruistic sounding wish did get to his head to turn him self-righteously dismissing others' problems, and he didn't get away with it with hero license or such, he shouldn't impose his ideals on others. Particularly that the DGP (the one the cast was in until ep. 22) doesn't have you being forced to murder each other like Rider War was (with those moves being punished), just perform better.
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09-07-2023, 04:14 PM | #17554 |
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To be honest, it's a little strange that Takahashi already has problems with the producer on the second show. Especially since no other writers have them, or at least keep them behind closed doors. I mean, let's say the dinosaur Inoue is allowed to write whatever he wants, but I doubt the ideas of someone like Fukuda are met with applause.
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09-08-2023, 09:54 AM | #17555 |
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COME HERE SO I CAN EXPLAIN WHY BLACK RX IS MY FAVORITE SHOWA ERA KAMEN RIDER SHOW. I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT THIS SHOW THE WAY A MORE REASONABLE PERSON WOULD TALK ABOUT KUUGA. So, I finished rewatching Black RX and honestly going into it I was convinced I wouldn't like it as much the second time and that all the stars had aligned the first time I saw it, deluding me into thinking it was great. But no! This show is a delight and one of the most unusual entries in the KR series, even if imperfect. I think a lot of people struggle with this show because it is a sequel to Black, but personally I think Black is a lot sillier and rough around the edges than most people give it credit for, while RX has more serious moments and polish that most people seem to think. Anyways, let's dive in! The Good
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So yeah, honestly? I'm not going to say this show will work for everyone, but I think there is a lot to love here and I'd encourage anyone who avoided it after seeing Black to at least give it a try with an open mind.
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09-08-2023, 10:04 AM | #17556 |
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Speaking of special effects, I'm always amazed that Black and RX did it better than Kuuga and Agito.
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09-08-2023, 01:29 PM | #17557 |
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In all honesty, I really liked Black RX and it’s even among my top favorite seasons of Kamen Rider along with Black albeit not as high as some of the other entries from said list.
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09-09-2023, 12:30 AM | #17558 |
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I think Black RX started a bit rough, especially coming right on Black's heels, but by the end it's easily on par with the original.
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09-09-2023, 06:05 AM | #17559 |
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I had alot of fun with Black RX, but man did I not like that ending at all.
Still, Joe the Haze is the man, and the show still has my favorite MOTW in Rider(the Banana Shaman).
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09-18-2023, 12:10 PM | #17560 |
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Fun fact: The date of that particular episode of Black RX first aired is the same date where Kamen Rider Banana, I mean, Baron's actor was born. Anyway, I'm still currently trying to power through Kiva. As of now, I am up to episode 42. Also, why do people like Otoya as a character again? I really don't get the show's fanbase sometimes.
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