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09-12-2017, 10:09 PM | #14801 |
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So, Ghost is a "decent" season?
But it's more or less Kamen Rider's own ToQger? Some love it, others hate it, general consensus is that it was less-than-stellar? Edit: Also, Fish, since you love Ghost so much.... how should I tackle it? It's certainly a different beast than the other Riders I've watched, considering all the hate that surrounds it is slowly "infecting" me. Quote:
In Ghost's particular case, I think a lot of the hate for it (especially while it was airing) was extremely hyperbolic, and occasionally some complaints would be so divorced from the actual show I'd argue they were objectively incorrect. That being said, plenty of the hate wasn't exaggerated, and, getting back to my point about taste, I'm very passionate about Kamen Rider and have never truly disliked even the shows I find below average, so I have to admit that I have my biases too. If you want my advice on how to tackle Ghost, I'd say... be chill about it? It's not like it's a big deal at the end of the day. If you end up enjoying it more than you expected, that's great! If you don't, that's still great, because you can just move on to greener pastures. Maybe do an older Heisei show or something. EDIT: Oh, also Byg42 just rattled off a bunch of things I hugely agree with, especially the bit about the themes. Ghost was very blunt in its messages, but, especially when you remember the target audience, I think it had some good things to say, and both the overarching plots and a huge amount of the individual episode plots tie into those messages in a very direct way that I adore. Very rarely does Ghost ever go "off-topic", so to speak.
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09-12-2017, 10:36 PM | #14802 |
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Okay.
I think those are some good points. But..... do the bad parts of this show outweigh the good? Or is it all subjective? |
09-12-2017, 10:40 PM | #14803 |
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Yes. By a lot.
The characters range from boring to deeply obnoxious, the action scenes are mostly just dudes standing around shooting CGI at each other, and the plot is a complete clusterfuck that gives up by the end and starts bringing in characters from web videos with no explanation and for no reason. It is a complete dumpster fire of a show. |
09-12-2017, 10:56 PM | #14804 |
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Yes. By a lot.
The characters range from boring to deeply obnoxious, the action scenes are mostly just dudes standing around shooting CGI at each other, and the plot is a complete clusterfuck that gives up by the end and starts bringing in characters from web videos with no explanation and for no reason. It is a complete dumpster fire of a show. Again, at the end of the day the only one who can ultimately decide whether or not you like something is you.
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09-12-2017, 11:02 PM | #14805 |
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Well, I might as well TRY to watch it.
I mean, the suits look cool. And the plot looks like it'll be.... interesting, at the very least. Why the heck not try it? I got through ToQger. Let's give Kamen Rider's own ToQger a watch. |
09-12-2017, 11:04 PM | #14806 |
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Yeah to be honest, I'd try to just cancel out all the negativity about a show and just dive in and let myself decide whether it's good or not. Problem about the internet is the big opinions of people can sometimes get overwhelming and that definitely effects the viewing pleasure of a show.
It's why I normally try and reset myself whenever watching a new Rider because it's a new year and it shouldn't be compared to others. Which is why I sigh when Gaim gets brought up to compare to the most recent Rider series because I thought we moved past that after Drive. Though speaking of Ghost I have to say... I actually liked Akari as a character more than say Kiriko from Drive? Kiriko was cool don't get me wrong but it felt like Akari did more and her actions felt more meaningful since she was a childhood friend of Takeru's, and everything she does is fueled by her passion to make sure her best friend comes back to life. Like Akari did a lot of stuff which wasn't fighting related, and a lot of her involvement really helped the cast pull through when they needed it. That being said I'm a bit meh on the rest that aren't the three main Riders. Takeru... honestly I never got the big deal about Takeru being bad, but then again I'm a guy who puts up with Sora from Kingdom Hearts so Takeru isn't really that bad in terms of his character. |
09-12-2017, 11:07 PM | #14807 |
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Yeah I find it best not to get too hung up on what the general opinions on shows are. You never know when a show might particularly speak to you even if its fandom reception isn't generally all that great. It may also just be terrible, but hey, at least you can have fun complaining about it!
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09-12-2017, 11:22 PM | #14808 |
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Yeah to be honest, I'd try to just cancel out all the negativity about a show and just dive in and let myself decide whether it's good or not. Problem about the internet is the big opinions of people can sometimes get overwhelming and that definitely effects the viewing pleasure of a show.
It's why I normally try and reset myself whenever watching a new Rider because it's a new year and it shouldn't be compared to others. Which is why I sigh when Gaim gets brought up to compare to the most recent Rider series because I thought we moved past that after Drive. It's annoying. Judge the show on its own merits, not whether or not it "beats this other one". Quote:
....So Takeru is pretty much our favorite Keyblade wielder? Super happy, all/most of the time? Quote:
Yeah I find it best not to get too hung up on what the general opinions on shows are. You never know when a show might particularly speak to you even if its fandom reception isn't generally all that great. It may also just be terrible, but hey, at least you can have fun complaining about it!
--- Also.... Uh, Gaim..... I..... I dunno about it. I want to watch it, but I don't like the way Urobuchi writes his stories and characters. Like, his plots borrow elements from his other works, he usually tells and rarely shows (by way of exposition), and his characters are literally walking ideals. I don't know if I can get past this preconceived notion I have about his work.... Is it "bad" if I don't watch it? |
09-12-2017, 11:27 PM | #14809 |
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But yeah super happy, has his down moments, but usually is optimistic most of the time. |
09-12-2017, 11:31 PM | #14810 |
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