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04-06-2021, 12:54 AM | #651 |
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Don't forget these beautiful renditions.
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04-06-2021, 02:43 AM | #652 |
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Glad to see people are finally on the same page as me when it comes to this show’s soundtrack being nothing but remixes.
Anyway, the first major takeaway from this episode was “Imagine if Ryotaro transformed with Deneb”*. The second involves the fact that Yuto was initially “still dead” because “Ryotaro didn’t know him at the age where he died”. That’ll be important later. Kai’s two flunkeys for this episode are voiced by the VAs for Ura and Ryu, pulling double duty. Despite what it looks like, the red card Yuto has to use now (I really hate this show’s habits of effectively replacing past forms with new ones) is NOT a repaint of his regular green cards. Namely, it can’t be turned around to give a different form. * Speaking of hypothesis, remover that question you asked in the last thread? About “moments you want to disavow from canon because you hate them so much”? I’ve finally found my answer to that question. Last edited by Androzani84; 04-06-2021 at 05:19 AM.. |
04-06-2021, 08:15 AM | #653 |
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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 40 - “CHANGE IMAGIN WORLD”
And Ryotaro rises to the challenge in this incredibly weird episode. Like, the show is not subtle with its thesis statement here. The new timeline is objectively better without Yuuto being in it. Literally everyone is living a happier life. (Well, probably not those two women with Ozaki. I don’t know them, but they can do better!) Every single person is better off… but that would mean giving up on Yuuto, and Ryotaro can’t abide by that. The idea of trading lives is abhorrent to him, inconceivable. Yuuto did exist, he is remembered, and Ryotaro will work to save him. That’s it. It’s an argument grounded entirely in faith, in the belief that no one deserves to be forgotten. The suggestion that the world is better without someone in it has at its core a flaw that Ryotaro can’t overlook: what about the person being forgotten? How would they feel? As long as the argument assumes that’s not worthy of consideration, you’ve lost Ryotaro’s support. He’s meeting Kai’s What Aboutisms with certainty, conviction. Yuuto lived, and he deserves to be remembered. Quote:
-Hey, you’re right, I didn’t talk about Zeronos’s new Cosmic Rust Form! Beautifully designed sequence, and probably a crucial piece of this story’s puzzle… except, AS PER GODDAMN USUAL, I’m sure exactly what happened in this Yuuto development. He’s burning up a new memory to power up Zeronos, but I can’t tell from this montage if he’s burning up his memory of Airi, Airi’s memory of him, or both of their memories of each other. That matters! It matters a whole lot! I wish this episode nailed it down more, but I feel like it’ll get elaborated on next time. (That is basically how every major Yuuto storyline works.) Meanwhile, I thought it was really pretty? I just don’t know what it means yet.
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-I cannot even begin to tell you how much I hated this episode’s theme song. I guess it’s the DenLiner Imagin singing parts of it now? It’s horrible. It’s menacing and brash in a way that is antithetical to this show’s vibe, and I hope it was just some one-off goof for this alternate reality. Listening to the theme song was always a delight, and this was like nails on a chalkboard to me.
I'm going to have to disagree with you here. Sure, the Imagins aren't super talented singers but I love it anyway. I think there's a strong feeling to hearing them sing the theme so passionately which makes it awesome to me. In the full version, Ryutaros even gets his own rap solo! Thanks. Will watch.
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04-06-2021, 10:14 AM | #654 |
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I'm going to have to disagree with you here. Sure, the Imagins aren't super talented singers but I love it anyway. I think there's a strong feeling to hearing them sing the theme so passionately which makes it awesome to me. In the full version, Ryutaros even gets his own rap solo!
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04-06-2021, 03:56 PM | #655 |
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Oh man, I completely forgot that the show did a remix of the theme song. Probably a repressed memory, considering how very not good it is.
Also not a big fan of Zero form. Not as a concept; it actually leads to a good story that is the last specific plot I clearly remember from the series. I really dislike the aesthetics, though. I know it's just a red version of Altair form, but I like the green and gold version a lot more. |
04-06-2021, 04:39 PM | #656 |
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I honestly didn't think the second version of the song is that bad. The first version is unquestionably better, though.
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04-06-2021, 05:28 PM | #657 |
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Oh man, I completely forgot that the show did a remix of the theme song. Probably a repressed memory, considering how very not good it is.
Also not a big fan of Zero form. Not as a concept; it actually leads to a good story that is the last specific plot I clearly remember from the series. I really dislike the aesthetics, though. I know it's just a red version of Altair form, but I like the green and gold version a lot more. |
04-06-2021, 05:38 PM | #658 |
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I don't really have any particular preference between Altair and Zero, but I really love how Zero Form, despite being a simple recolor at a glance, actually has a rougher texture all over the armor to make it look that much more like gross rusted metal.
And as for Climax Jump DEN-LINER form, I will say that I did grow an appreciation for it when listened to on its own; it's the very specific context of being used for the show's opening that I actively dislike it in.
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04-06-2021, 05:51 PM | #659 |
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I don't really have any particular preference between Altair and Zero, but I really love how Zero Form, despite being a simple recolor at a glance, actually has a rougher texture all over the armor to make it look that much more like gross rusted metal.
And as for Climax Jump DEN-LINER form, I will say that I did grow an appreciation for it when listened to on its own; it's the very specific context of being used for the show's opening that I actively dislike it in. |
04-06-2021, 08:56 PM | #660 |
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But, narratively... I like that they're doing very different things? The green and gold has a more soothing feel to it, where Zerenos's appearance in a fight feels like a saving grace. Zero Form (yes?) definitely has the opposite effect; things feel more chaotic, more reckless, This Just Got Personal but as clothes. That's always my preference for at least one Rider's power-up, having it feel both more powerful and intensely regrettable. Build Hazard is (and always will be) the high watermark for an enhanced form that represents a philosophical failure in the user. So the way Zero uses its red, uses the iconography of corruption and instability, I like that a lot. I just think the green and gold is prettier. Not rushing out to buy a Zero Form figure!
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