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09-12-2018, 08:44 AM | #61 |
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Mind you it's been confirmed that Build's world was a seperate dimension, by the Ex-Aid team up movie. |
09-12-2018, 09:09 AM | #62 |
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Ok, so sento in 2018 is from the new world, right?
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09-12-2018, 09:11 AM | #63 |
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which 2017 does he go back to in this episode? Skywall there or new world?
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09-12-2018, 09:32 AM | #64 |
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09-12-2018, 06:06 PM | #65 |
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In episode 2.5 mentioned that to defeat an Another Rider we need the same Rider's power. In this episode Sougo already have Build's power in 2018 then why would they need to defeat the Another Rider in 2017? Though it's still necessary to go to the past to give Sento(or Katsuragi) and Banjou the watch.
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09-12-2018, 08:11 PM | #66 |
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Loving the show so far.
Seems the inherit system means more than only the powers with how it rewrites history. Which will likely come back up in the movie too, and the back half, with some way to try and restore that. Or further dive into it and the rammifications of how it alters the timline of that rider in the years the Kaijin is active during by replacing the rider. I think it might also mean they inherit the problems too. So that may explain some future stuff, as well as how other areas will play into this and why they have belt sounds too. As meta-commentary goes, it also speaks to how the writers/producers inherited the shows and history too, to make use of it. Which goes to the whole internal system of how things are decided on and that side of the business used to then in show, and the artistic nuance to take advantage of that as commentary on the Heisei era of riders as a whole. Which may explain another future thing coming up next year based on the belt sounds leaks and other info. Also thanks to the 2.5, it seems outright that Agito's episodes much later may play a bigger role in the another rider system. With how Another agito is the original another rider that was a replacement and likely the origin of why the another rider system exists and the source of the name itself. We'll probably know more once casting is settled on that when it's time, so they know what they have to work with. But 2 and 2.5 really seem to point at that, and I especially love how 2.5 listed rules to basically tell fans to not overthink it and enjoy the ride(r). Essentially a "stop being so anal." But the entire story aspect of "Another Rider" is similar to those types of stories of copycats trying to replace the original and how much they fail at it or would screw things up worse. Which seems especially poignant with how Zi-O saved Geiz and Tsukuyomi by cutting away harmful pitches from hitting them from a fake that was hurting people not helping or saving. Kind of an interesting sub-commentary of the massive amount of bad suggestions about riders certain types of fans do. Loving the metaphor usages in this so far. It seems awfully pointed and fun. Especially that 2.5 after show where it's basically saying "here are the rules" and that "fans need to chill and enjoy the ride(r)." The show is really more of a mix of Den-O and Decade it seems. Using Decade's alternate world/different versions with Den-O's time travel. Making the inherit system rewrite history and making it so those shows never existed. So the parallel world stuff is entirely moot which is our 4th wall break point as a show concept. It's all one unified world. Which will likely come into play later with how different bad guys may want to use that to their advantage in how it erases their rivals. So far, the team has done a great job. Looking forward to how the rest plays out and is implemented. Especially loving how Geiz and Tsukuyomi are now living with Sougo and his uncle. Which is fitting with the watch theme. Really makes me look forward to the October episodes and the Uncle with Tsukuyomi talks. And really can't wait until she gets her own belt too. Looking forward to another stellar series from Toei. Quote:
In episode 2.5 mentioned that to defeat an Another Rider we need the same Rider's power. In this episode Sougo already have Build's power in 2018 then why would they need to defeat the Another Rider in 2017? Though it's still necessary to go to the past to give Sento(or Katsuragi) and Banjou the watch.
Like say if the swimmer he bottled ended up becoming a gold medal winner, then on cereal boxes, which later inspired another kid that eventually led to that kid becoming an astronaut, or designer of a pool enhancement that saved lives, or anything else that blossomed from that one swimmer's life. Athletes and other high profile names impact the world as a whole on the timeline side of things. Same as the individual impacts those around them too, which is a domino effect from what that inspiration led others to do, that then impacted those lives, and so on. Like the old saying goes, one act of kindness can lead to a world of change. And it's true. One person buying someone in line after them a subway sandwhich because they held up the line too long, can keep that customer after them in a good mood while driving on a highway afterwards to prevent an accident, that would have impacted others, and then how that impacts others, and so on down the line. All from 1 act of kindness. It's why the "pay it forward" practice is so important. You never know how one act of kindness can spiral forward helping more. This is part of the principle to the pay it forward coffee system too. Same could be said of the rider series really. How one random act can lead to change and 20 series later, here we are. All because randomly Saban tried to bring it stateside once upon a time, and expanded finances for Toei by bringing power rangers to the world stage. Broadening Toei's resources and areas that help them finance shows and work on them. Sentai and Riders may not exist today as we know them without that. Same as a whole lot of other things. Without that, we wouldn't be here now posting about Zi-O itself. Or for that matter, even this site itself existing. Without Saban's pursuit of bringing this material stateside in the late 80s and early 90s, and the other companies that did similar like Biokids or what have you because of Toei's shows. Adults today, likely the very ones that pursued this site itself, wouldn't have been as inspired and drawn to the media to do so. Same to the companies that tried to make Ultraman more global. Like Tsuburaya's licensing it out to Australia for a series. Or the original black and white dubs. So a domino that creates the future, if you turn it sideways, then it doesn't fall in place anymore, and impacts nothing or stops the tide of change. So you have to go back to it, re-orient it, then let it fall setting everything else in motion. Which is essentially timelines and how they change by theories of time travel. Which also brings us back to importance of Zi-O cutting away pitches that would have hurt Geiz and Tsukuyomi, because Tsukuyomi in particular may affect the rider timeline as a whole on a meta scale. Which is directly lecturing fans through metaphor by saying "stop telling us to hurt them, because we aren't going to" or more particularly "Tsukuyomi is off-limits from harm because she's protected, and those bad pitches are being cut away." As well as how not only did Zi-O cut away those bad pitches, but Geiz was shielding her. Which also gave us a character defining point. Geiz wanting to save people and isn't fully blinded by his mission, and how this Sougo isn't like their Sougo and something set that in motion that changed time to turn him into Oma Zi-O. Allowing their humanity to come through as well, which also goes back to them traveling to the past which saved more lives. Which the domino effect is also shown through Sento and Banjo by how they got the ride watches to give to Sougo a year later to cause and close the loop. Which then brings us to the ramifications of the inherit system and what all Sougo inherits when he defeats the monster too and how that impacts the original rider. Paradox powered Rider really when you think about it. Which bring us back to the 2.5, and rule 3. Don't overthink it. Domino effects are weird like that. Some dominos may have even affected Dominos. xD Last edited by Librarian; 09-12-2018 at 09:25 PM.. |
09-13-2018, 08:24 AM | #67 |
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There's also the issue that they were still doing Zi-O's set up in this episode too, which probably ended up shafting Build. Just look at how Build stuff only got one brief scene last episode, while next week Ex-Aid seems to be much more plot focused (with the characters searching for the Genius Gamer M) even before the second part of the team up.
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09-13-2018, 02:34 PM | #68 |
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So now that we've got Rukia and Renji living with Ichigo....I mean Tsukuyomi and Geiz living with Soggy, does this mean that more hilarious hijinks will ensue?
Because the whole point of that episode was confusing other than to say that Sougo is just a nice guy and we don't know if he's going to sour like a milk carton expiration date. I will say the best part of it all is the way they made the Build Armor suit, and having to shake it to make it. And the equations being their own puns.
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09-23-2018, 01:26 AM | #69 |
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The first two-parter left a bad taste in my mouth. Acting is bad, effects are bad, writing is bad, the tribute portion was even bad. Doesn't follow Build's continuity and makes nothing of the returning characters. And my god some of the effects are unbelievable in a bad way.
I did like the design of Another Build and how he had his own weird Best Matches. The pacing of the episodes was all over the place and I don't have a read on Sougo, Tsukuyomi or Geiz. I think Woz is pretty funny though. It's too bad the Build episodes were bad but we'll see Sento and Banjou again in the winter film so I can make an exception here. Rider pilots are rarely good, so this was to be expected honestly. The opening theme and visuals for the Rider henshin's are very cool though. And the 0.5 spin-off episodes are absolutely hilarious! |
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