Are certain Mechs alive?
 

This conversation was started in another thread so it was moved here to be given it's own life. See what I did :D Made a funny, with my words. Here's how I see it.

Gaoranger - Alive
Goseiger - No
Gekiranger - Alive
Abaranger - Alive
Magiranger - Alive
Hurricanranger - No

Actually, Geki's isn't alive.
Well, Saidaioh is (I think. Don't remember), but the main ones aren't. It's just their energy taking physical form.

Also, Kakuranger: Alive.

Let me double-post and explain myself.

Now, I haven't seen Gaoranger. But in Wild Force footage they seemed very much alive. Goseiger though? They weren't alive. They were much Machines, and never once gave any hint I can remember. Aside from Gosei Knight. But I count that more towards his was so badass he had to come alive. Hurricanranger, same thing. They were just animal shaped machines. While Geki they were very much alive, Magiranger is a no duh. I mean they became their mechs. So yea, that counts as alive. And Aba I see as alive to.

Goseiger though.. Maybe they were alive to a degree. Change that one to maybe.

Sorry Sentai. I posted and prevented you from double posting.

And Brajira's other headers were very much alive like GoseiKnight. Perhaps the headers are living but not sentient?

Curse you, Matrix! And.. Yea. That's the best explination I've heard, and does explain quite a few things about they act. Geki though: Since they are manifested from living spirits, wouldn't that make them alive? They spawn from something that is alive.

I don't think the main meka from Dairanger were alive but Daijinryuu (AKA Serpentera) was a god, so I guess that qualifies?

That was from Dairanger? I always assumed Zyuranger for some reason. But hey, I learned something! Yes though. I would count that as alive. And I would the mechs from Kakuranger to, especially Falcon.

Gingaman as well, right? That one is kinda confusing as they seem to exist in both organic and technological states.

I was hoping to skip that season for that very reason. I don't need that level of confusion in my life :lol

The giveaway for Serpentera's origins is that really fabulous scene of Red Dragon Thunderzord flying around him in Warrior mode... the scale of Serpentera from that scene is mind-boggling.

I need to rewatch alot of that season on netflix tonight. I missed that scene all-together.

This is making my head hurt.

Concerning Geki, while technically they are spawned from something that is alive, I still wouldn't go so far as to call them living...

And Kaku are definitely alive, Tsubasamaru especially. I'm not sure how they handle Kakure Daishogun, Muteki Shogun is just a transformation technique for them.

..is there a particular reason Go-Onger wasn't mentioned?

Probably for the same reason Zyuranger, Gingaman, or Shinkenger wasn't.
Sentai didn't think of them :p

Ah, ok. Wasn't sure if they were intentionally neglected for some reason (I missed the thread this discussion originated from).

The feeling I get from the Geki meka is that it was the chi or spirit taking physical form. So while not a machine per se, it was like you say, not "living" either...

Wow, how could I not think of Go-onger? They freaking TALK in Go-onger for crying out loud! :lol

Were Zyuranger's guardian beasts alive? I watched some episodes of zyu but forget whether it was mentioned or not.

And what about Fuuraimuru/minizord from Hurricanger/ Ninja Storm? He is one of the few zords that have ever spoken. Now wether he was truly 'alive' and not just programmed is questionable.

I'm hesitant to say if the Origami are alive or not. While they behave like living things, they're man made. I think they go in the same category as the Geki Beasts(being sentient, but not alive).

I did not! .. Yea, yea I did. Go-Onger though is obvious. Those are alive, there's no debate there.

I haven't watched Hurricanger, but what about Furaimaru? He seemed pretty alive in Gokaiger...

Given Hurricaneger's relatively technological theme, I wouldn't be surprised if Fuuraimaru was just a really good robot.

So which was the first Power Rangers season to treat the zords as living beasts?
Was it Lost Galaxy?

Im pretty sure it was Lost Galaxy. They were actually real living beasts.

Let me ask the group a question -- do you prefer "living" meka or regular piloted meka?

Personally, pretty much all of my favorites are the piloted type (Ohranger Robos, 99 Machines, GoGo Vehicles), but I have a soft spot for the meka from Jungle Fury (have not watched Gekiranger yet), which were non-piloted, and the very little I have seen of the meka from Go-onger had me cheering as well.

What about you folks?

I guess piloted, if only because I never buy it when they try to pass off living mecha as being from Earth.

It's kind of a toss up for me. But if I absolutely had to choose, I'd probably say I preferred living mechs.

It just has a greater weight to it. Seeing an enemy monster start slashing and blasting them. With normal mechs, a week in the shop and they'll be good as new, but with living ones, you lose them and they're gone for good. It just feels like there's more to lose, so there's just more tension during series finales when mechs might end up destroyed. Feels like you lost a comrade, not just a tool.

Yes, although technically it was Daizyujin that was alive and the Guardian Beasts were just his consciousness split into separate bodies. Dragon Caesar and King Brachion were also separate beings, but their consciousness merged with Daizyujin's when they combined.

To me they were all alive.

My favorite Mechs from MMPR/Sentai have always been vehicles, so for me non-alive. Though I did enjoy Wild Force's pantheon of living beasts.

Kyoryuger

I don't know if anyone mention it or not, but wouldn't red Lightning and..Mountain Blaster zord be alive in some sort of way as well? since the Mountain Blaster came back to Justin on it's own back in PR In space, and gave him back the turbo morpher?

They definitely had sentience

goonger 's mecha is alive too

I'm not saying he was alive, but Gokai-oh often seemed to change facial expression... So, make of that what you will.