Kamen Rider Ghost Episode 21- "Wonder! The World Of The Ganma" Discussion
 

Makoto is finally freed from Alain's influences. Now Specter is out for revenge against his former friend...

I wasn't expecting Katchu to be female....or at least it's voiced by one. And I guess they're really pushing the fact that each Ganma has their own deals going on, what with Katchu's chivalry and such...it'd be fun if Takeru just started gathering a ton of Ganma friends.

Wonder how long it'll take until we get a PB Specter Ganma Eyecon...

Nice to see Akari continuing to prove herself useful. And that's some accent on Edison...

Stuff with the Eyecon Driver is starting to come together nicely.

The next episode looks intense af. I just hope Katchu doesn't hurt Cubi...

Me too... I am not expecting about Katchu Ganma is Female...

I am also not expecting Makoto is Ganma.....and maybe he will obtain Deep Ghost Eyecon from Ganma World.

It seem Takeru can obtain all 15 Ghost Eyecon because we almost near to Grateful debut. Hmmm.....

Maybe Ghost Grateful Damashii's debut in episode 23 but Takeru still has around 60 days ....

This. Just give us Ganma companion, do not use it as plot device then kill off.

Really? I assumed that from the start. I thought the suit had sort of a Joan of Arc vibe going on with it, so I had a hunch they'd be feminine.

I mean, we usually only see about one or two female MotWs a season, and we had Insect not too long ago. It's the sort of thing I just didn't expect, so while the suit is fairly androgynous I simply assumed it was male, 'cause most of them are.

I guess so.

I'll wait until we get subtitles to cast further judgment, but I can't help but feel that this and the next episode are where Ghost starts picking up and starts getting really good. Sorta like the when people start dying in Gaim or when Shinnosuke's identity is revealed is Drive.

Do you means that Ghost will be more darker than first half?

I just got done watching the RAW. Does this episode confirm whether or not Edith and "Gramps" are the same entity, or are they truly two different entities? If they are the same, that would be a good reason why Gramps isn't always around.

Nice to see Akari actually not just fixing one but two problems. And it seems that you are what you hate, Akari. You are one hell of a mad scientist yourself.

I am beginning to really hate Igor. His mannerisms, his philosophy, his cowardice in fighting and his appearance all just rub me off wrong for some reason. I hope I am not alone in this.

Specter is about to go atomic on the Ganma world which is a plus.

Not a bad episode. The story starts to get interesting, the Ganma of the week was cool and I love that Cubi serves a purpose besides just showing Gama can be nice and immediately dying afterwards.

The only thing I disliked was Kanon being as useless as ever. Jesus Christ girl, get a grip. Running after your brother because you’re worried I can understand, but not running away after the enemy falls in front of you so the Riders can’t finish her? This character is beyond useless; she’s either an item to fight for or just in the way. The only time where she was kinda useful was when she just stalked Arain, and even that didn’t do much.

And how often do they want to recycle the "I know you’re here because you’re always here"-thing where every character finds Maktoto standing at the river? That happens like every second episode or so.

EDIT: Who the f* are those 95 people who vote "Excellent!"? Wait I know, it's one dude spamming the shit out of the vote and like 4 who actually enjoy the show.

This was an exciting episode. I can't wait to see more of the Ganma world. When Takeru first entered the Ganma world, it looked like he was on Mars. Next episode seems to be really good. I can't wait.

It does look like Mars, but the first thing I thought of was that one planet the Masked Rider came from. You know, from that crossover MMPR did to promote it.

This season is honestly just getting better and better as it goes, I hope it manages to keep this momentum going, and it would actually be really interesting if Takeru indeed keeps gaining more and more Ganma allies as the show goes on like others here have commented on.

It finally revealed about how Makoto was able to transform into Specter despite being alive

He was Ganma Eyecon all along! It's unknown who turn him and Kanon into a Ganma Eyecon

So Igor just give all Takeru's Eyecon to Edith who is Gramp's Doppelgänger or is Gramp so Edith can finished Eyecon Driver G but he still need other Eyecons from Makoto and Alain

It seem Adel is tired of doing nothing! It's time for him to bring out the big gun

I think Adel will framed Alain for the assassination of Adonis

I think Katchu is likely to die because if they want Igor to be hated or get a nasty NUCLEAR HEAT by everyone. Have Igor killed him because he is a douchebag Ganma

The Ganma World look like a post-apocalypse Earth or resemble Mars

I liked this one. The plot seems to be picking up as we get closer to the halfway mark and it really feels like we're going to be getting some big developments in the next few episodes. This is around the time last year when Drive pulled itself up by its bootstraps and I hope to see Ghost do likewise.

I don't know about Mars, but I do know that the royal palace is the Metropolitan Area Outer Underground Discharge Channel: http://gizmodo.com/tokyo-has-the-lar...wor-1696967098

Cool. I guess an underground water channel is the closest to Hell they could get on budget. :lol

Adel looks like a Japanese Adam Driver/Kylo Ren. And man Alia is hawt!!

I liked this episode but there was one thing I a had a problem with it. Igor tells Katchu Ganma to return his huge Eye-ball necklace (cos it contains the souls he needs) once she's defeat Ghost, but he could've just taken it with him! I know it was integral for the plot because Takeru needed to free Katchu from Igor's mind control and free the souls of the people and Takeru's friends, but it seems like a stupid thing for Igor to do.

Weren't the souls important for whatever project or plan Igor is doing. Plus I don't think he gave any indication that he wanted Katchu to collect more after Takeru was defeated, so it was really a dumb thing for Igor to do. I know it's mainly to do with what the writer writes for the episode but it would've made more sense for freeing to souls to be a secondary objective for Takeru to enter the Ganma world.

I don't know if that bugged anyone else but it bugged me a little...

That’s evil guys being stupid because the plot demands it for you. Necrom had like three opportunities to destroy Ghost & Specter but he was either just "Meh, I do it later", or Necroms convenient power shortage suddenly kicked in, or he got a memo from his dad. Which makes you think: What would your Ganma emperor of a dad care more about? That you’re on time for the meeting so that there isn’t much of an embarrassing silence because your family is shit apparently, or that you’re 5 minutes late and arrive with the news that you just finished off Ghost & Specter?

But Daddy Adonis doesn’t seem to care either way.

You say that as if literally every single Kamen Rider series doesn't have similar levels of constant plot convenience.

Ehm... no? I do not. Just pointing out other examples in this show because this topic is about Kamen Rider Ghost and not Kamen Rider in general.

Oh, alright then. Fair enough. You just sounded awfully bitter in that post, when I feel like it's something you should have come to expect at this point, that's all. Ah well.

Ghost keeps getting better and better. I am enjoying Alain's family a lot, the Ganma actually are intriguing villains and are in the nice gray area that I love that they aren't truly evil. Alain is really growing on me too. I love Makoto and Takeru too. Onari is a delight, and Akari has really grown with her abilities using her science with the Ganma power. I really am enjoying where the story is going and I love this Ganma that Ghost is fighting that was possessed by Igor. I want to know more with Sennin too. This show has evolved even more and is so amazing right now.