Kamen Rider Ghost Episode 45- "Horror! Vanishing World" Discussion
 

Makoto faces his strongest opponent yet... HIMSELF!

Hm...interesting episode...

Hm...Adel's Final plan is begun and we has strange thing...Adel can turn Igor and Gyro's face become look like Adel's face? Strange...

Hmm....Adel's mother appeared in flashback....hmm....I am always think....what if Argos, Alia, Adel, and Alain's mother is also Takeru's mother? Thats could be interesting.....

Finally, Steve Bills can be free from Ganma Eyecon possession after Necrom destroy Ganma Eyecon from Steve Bills's body...

After Ghost, Specter, and Necrom win against 3 Ganmaizers (Fire, Planet, and Climate), Necrom, Specter, and Akari cannot see Takeru because Takeru become invisible.....

In the end of episode, Hermit back to Ganma World and it seems he search the secret monolith in Ganma World underground...

Next episode, Takeru battle against Miyamoto Musashi, some of previous victim of the week appear, and Ghost battle again against Ganmaizers....

I will be PISSED if Takeru's mother ends up being Adel & the others' mother as well.....I don't think I have to address just how many issues that would bring...

If Takeru's mother come from Ganma World, thats remind me to Wataru Kurenai's mother who come from Fangire Royal Family...

Takeru's mother better be involved! I'm sure Ryu as Tokon Boost can appear to him explaining his origin.

Yet... it would explain as to why there's a random Ganma Monolith in the basement because I seriously doubt Ryu purposely created it at random.

At first it was just a crack theory of mine but it actually is looking more likely than ever that the not Ganma queen was Takeru's mom. I am going to laugh so hard if it happens.

Anyway, Cubi and Onpu Ganma are back next episode! That should be fun.

Half expected them to turn up in this episode to save Kanon (scene's title: when the oniichan gets too strong) but I guess Fakoto is getting self aware.

Looks like Fakoto is inheriting his real self's brotherly protection of Kanon. Something tells me the Ganmaizer or Adel are going to target Kanon and he'll perform a heroic sacrifice.

That being said it's interesting and weird to see the Ganmaizer's acting like actual villains now. Since before they were all like, "Observing. Eliminating. Analyzing.". Now they have an actual goal that is separate from Adel. This should be interesting to see.

Yeah, such as his name not beginning with A. That would be a combo-breaking sin.

The issues I have with Takeru being another one of the Royal Ganma Family are:
-Storywise, that undermines the whole "humanity's infinite potential" thing if he himself isn't a human (then again, seems Ganma indeed WERE humans before transitioning to these bodies)
-The Royal Family is already as big as it is
-They already lost a member with Argos...to do it again with Takeru would be....weird
-So you're telling me Takeru's mom had children with Adonis, then later on had a child with Ryu? Umm....I mean, this isn't the first time something like this happened in Kamen Rider(Kiva), but still...it's odd of a story move to pull

It doubt it will happen anyway since she died before they started to make those capsules in the ganma world. And since there was there was nothing wrong in their world back then I doubt she would fake her death.

I'm curious about the human looking Gammaizers that we keep seeing. I'm thinking maybe after they're defeated they turn good now, and are loyal to Takeru after what Adel did with the Fakotos to revive them.

Wouldn't be surprised if it turns out Ryu isn't Takeru's biological father and he was part of the royal family...

Either way them sharing a mother was an idea pushed rather heavily this episode and I can't say I quite like it either.

What I'm expecting to have happened is that the mother (Already pregnant with Takeru) got the red sky disease (since the Ganma world already looked kinda red in the flashback. Maybe it was just the sunset, or maybe they started getting the red crap later, but...) so they try to send her to the human world, since it lacks the pollution. But something goes wrong and she gets sent far into the future, where she meets Ryu, Takeru is born, she dies, and Ryu takes care of him.

Or something like that. My speculation sounds very contrived, but eh. If it actually ends up happening, it'll likely be pretty contrived as well.

Guess we'll find out sooner rather than later.

This was better than last week. It actually felt like the plot is progressing and the episode didn't just spin its wheels for 24 minutes. I get where the show is probably going with moms now, but I think it would have worked better with more foreshadowing.

It amuses me how Alain, Alia, and Adel's brother has stopped existing again now that the movie is out. :lol

I was also amused at Kanon pledging to help. My exact reaction was "Oh, you're still here." And then all she did was get food and not strangled.

Still glad the show is ending, but this was a step up from last week.

ok wow this episode where to start . .

the villian's plan (the villian is boring to where I forgot his name) is to make a hive mind utopia inside him? or just make everyone clones either way he some how got this idea after his fight with takeru or before it? basically I think their fight kinda broke his brain, also mind crush on gyro

royal family sister is still useless, even kanon is more useful

why are those two girls from the legendary rider mini series here? I mean I have been using over time so I have not been able to finish it. can someone tell me if the mini series had a reason as for why they are now in the show?

Igor is still alive? why? he seems to have as much usefulness as javert and yes I know he helps with the plan but other than that and the slapping joke no point he just stands and watch or fights a bit

I blinked and got confused as to what the hell was going on

oh god I hope they dont do it where takeru has the same mother I mean its too late to pull that bullshit move but I wouldnt be surprised if they did which worries me

and the biggest thing is Im getting a scared feeling that its going to keep getting a lot worse these last few episodes till the shit storm of an ending that will leave me so frustrated that only alcohol could help ease my pain till the great pink anime game rider comes in as my knight in pink and green armor

So from seeing this episode, either Takeru and Alain/Adel/Alia/the other guy all have the same mother OR Takeru emotionally connects with Adel via the lost of both of their mothers.


I'm calling it.


Not a bad episode, but if they DO pull a twist where they're all related, it probably should have been revealed episodes ago.

What if............ Takeru's mother and Alain/Adel/Alia's mother have the same name? Lol.

If it's Martha then I am officially done with Kamen Rider.

why did you say that name?! :p

I am loving the end game here with Ghost. Alain was successful in freeing Bills. Makoto gets further developments with Evil Makoto and trying to deepen his powers with Deep Spectre Eyecon. Takeru connecting with Adel was intriguing and hearing more about both their mothers was too. I am loving how Adel has become this villain here. The Ganmaizers are intriguing too. I am starting to think maybe there is a connection between Takeru and Alain's family. Would explain his powers. I can't wait to see more.

So everyone will become Adel? That's fucking horrifying.

The guys a boring stick that rocks won't hang out with, and sticks are ashamed to be associated with.

Why do the assholes who want to supplant everyone's' personality always have to be the least interesting bastards? At least be an artist or a singer, so now everyone in the world has a cool gift to share. His hairstyle isn't even all that great.

So the villains plan is... the same as the Master's from "The End of Time"?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb1viD56zkM
This episode actually was good though. Some progress with Demia, Bills finally being freed (though I kinda expected him to die, considering how close we are to that 99 day limit Yurusen mentioned once and never brought up again), Fake!Makoto actually does something other than "Pad out the episode", and Adel and Takeru start to get some endgame stuff going down.

HE'LL KILL MARTHAAAAAAAAAA

is it bad I liked that movie despite how stupid that scene was

also did the show just forget we had 3 Ganmizer's left

calling it Takeru's mother isn't the Ganma Queen but named Alicia

No in Episode 43 Adel revived all of them once he had connected to the Great Eye.