Kamen Rider Ex-Aid Episode 19: "A Sudden Fantasy!" Discussion
 

The truth is finally out: Emu is in fact Patient Zero for the Bugstar Virus! How can he cope with this knowledge?!

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It seems Emu as Genius Gamer looks more enjoy when he battle against Gatton Bugster....
I am really curious how Hiiro will steal Gashat Gear Dual Beta from Genm....
I think this episode will explore more Hiiro's character evelopment......

Lets going! King of fantasy!

I love it when people at the stream screaming "BANANA BANANA!" and "Baron Da!" during Brave Baron Gamer level 50 debut.

The level 30 Gekitotsu Bugster is hilarious lol.

That sounds hilarious! I don't watch the streams because I like to get full enjoyment by watching subs with no spoilers but that sounds fun.

Sorry double post...

So the human can be become Bugster when possessed by Level 30 like Gatton Bugster. This really similar to Kazari's Yummy...

Probably all Level 30 Bugsters come from Level 3 games....

Emu as Genius Gamer looks more powerful. Ex-Aid Gekitotsu Robot in Level 3 not has many problem when he attack Gatton Bugster.....

Hmm..really interesting way how Hiiro obtain Gashat Gear Dual Beta...:D
Hiiro hold Mighty Brother X and he run until he find confuse Energy Item and then Fantasy Gamer affected by confuse Energy Item. Because that, Fantasy Gamer attack Genm and Gatton Bugster. Genm dropped Gashat Gear Dual Beta and Hiiro obtain this Gashats....

I really love how Brave Fantasy Gamer can summon Bugster minion. The other awesome things:

- Brave Fantasy Gamer's magic technique really similar to Roshuo's Overlord ability and

- Brave Fantasy Gamer's fights really remind me to Lord Baron from Kamen Rider Gaim.

- Brave's Fantasy Gamer's cape has drill attack like Kamen Rider Knight's Final Vent.

- And finally, Brave Fantasy Gamer's Rider Kick has red fog aura and thats really badass.

The patient who possesed by Gatton Bugster finally become normal again. Hmmm...Hiiro finally reclaim Taddle Quest Gashat and Drago Knight Hunter Z...

Next episode, Snipe Bang Bang Simulation's debut...

This is the episode that telling you why exaid costume need a pair of eyes
Taddle Fantasy looks so awesome with those eyes

Hot friggin damn. Hiiro has been on point since the second arc started, but this was just his episode. A truly triumphant return after spending the last couple of episodes without being able to transform. The show continues to be great and do great things with its characters. I only hope Taiga's turn next episode can match up.

Was slightly hoping Hiiro would turn into Ex-Aid for a bit, but oh well I guess. Now that I think about it he could have also used Bakusou Bike, since there's a perfectly available Rider Gashat, but...considering he had no particular relation to Kiriya, perhaps it wouldn't be worth opening up those old wounds.

And it looks like the Gear Dual Beta places considerable strain on the body. Kuroto didn't intend for it to be used, so perhaps it's got the same high-power/body-ruining properties the Proto Gashats have...which could be, well, worrying in the case of Hiiro, but downright alarming in the case of Taiga. Especially in light of his one line in the preview..."I've got nothing to lose," is it? I'm pretty sure using Proto Bang Bang Shooting five years ago already did a number on his body, thus the white hair. This level 50 thing, which is giving the perfectly healthy Hiiro problems? Dude's gonna kick that bucket so hard. You know, maybe, eventually (i'm gonna place a bet here: before we know it, the two of them to are going become friends, or something, taiga's going to die, and hiiro will mazaru up with the beta in his honor or something. which would be like, exactly like chaser mach, i guess. still, i can totally see it happen....and then the strain of being level 99 would kill hiiro too, maybe, i dunno. these guys killed kiriya on christmas, i wouldn't put it past them. anyway, i'm betting 50 cents this will happen)

The situation with M is more confusing now though...contrary to what appeared to be the case, it looks like now they're going for M being the Bugster? I don't even know anymore. His scan is all weird though, and the fact that the Bugster didn't actually break out...well, adds fuel to my theory that when he first got Mighty Brothers he was permanently turned into a human/Bugster hybrid. If that turns out to be the case the question will turn out to be somewhat irrelevant, but still, man...this really didn't paint M in a positive light at all. Nothing compared even to how M has acted thus far...may or may not be troubling.

Lastly, Bugsterssssss. So we're up from 5 to 30, and now instead of being able to break out immediately the Bugsters have the ability to not have to break out. That could be...bad? I mean, nothing really happened to the lady so I don't see what it really changes. Guess it means they don't have to keep cutting back to the CR when things happen, which is...something. And at least it makes for some good humor when the Bugster is in control.

Excited at the prospect of eventually getting to see a Shakariki Sports Bugster though. We have gotten nothing for that game. Hopefully we do. And we need a leveled up DKHZ so....come back to us, Graphite! You can even be the one to kill Taiga if you want, for that thing I mentioned up there. That could actually be half appropriate.

Anyway, the really worrying part about all this is...they've been going in order with the leveled up Bugsters. Salty, Aranbura, Revol, Motorz, Gatton, and next episode...Jet Combat? Sooooo....looks like we're missing a DoReMiFa Beat Bugster....in....deeeeed.....hm.

Again: worrying.

We know she's going to survive at least until May, and you know, one hopes, beyond that, but still. There's no way of knowing what could happen to her in the interim. If Kuroto needs her defeated to get her data to complete KRC, and he does eventually do that, then...

Then.

Then we'll worry about that, I guess.

In any case, great ep. Please keep being good, Ex-Aid.

"Okaeri Emu" - Paradox said - It's "Emu" - not M - and Paradox probably have watched M ... we have something complicated here....
And at the start.. where's Paradox ._.

Im starting to see Exaid will only have one and the true second Rider
which is Pallad,

sometimes they introduce 2nd rider late, in ep 20ish just like in Kabuto

and those 2, they are just Plot Device and will have same fate with Kiriya

Actually, that was shown at the start. In Japan, there are three pronouns for when using I. Boku, which is a bit more naive/childish, watashii, the more feminine version and ore, a more arrogant version. Emu used boku which Asuna noticed, as M always says ore

In this episode, Hiiro attempts to take Emu's place as the protagonist, with marginal success. Him trying to connect with the patient was both heartwarming and hilarious. He even (ALMOST) transformed into Ex-Aid, which would have been awesome if M hadn't ruined it.

It was pretty cool to see the whole "using strategy to beat a stronger opponent" thing acknowledged, especially when Hiiro essentially played MAX with the Fantasy Gamer. Hiiro's platforming/parkour skills were on point today.

Baron's Inves for- I mean, Brave Fantasy was amazing, especially with his speech on willpower. Really reinforces the fact that he does take his role as doctor seriously, he just tries not to make emotional attachments that could end up with him hurting more people.

Honestly, I should probably stop worrying about which of Emu's personalities is the Bugster. At this point, it's too muddied to tell and it still seems like they're two halves of the same person. Guess I'll just have to wait for when they clear that little plot thread up.

Finally, I was wondering for the longest time what would happen if someone with multiple weapons summoned that ring graphic, and I guess I was personally right! When he summon the Gashacon Sword, I also saw the Magnum icon in the circle. Cool!

Great episode as usual, but I'm very curious, Hiiro couldn't quite handle Taddle Fantasy and in the next preview Taiga sounds like he's aware he's a goner. Methinks they genuinely have death flags. I DID like Pallad's smile at the end of the episode though

Everybody has covered what I wanted to say lol. Great episode and I love how Hiiro handled that battle before he used the Gear Beta. xD
The Gear Beta Gashat taking a toll on the body may lead to death flags? Possible maybe too much use will lead to death. So who will go down first?
Also...the upgrade came too early for these two...unless there is one last minute upgrade for the survivor which combines Brave and Snipe together.
Doesnt help that KR Chronicle is a battle-royale game...(Ryuki anyone?)
I just hope Chronicle's debut episode doesn't end with a rider death.

Everybody in the show seems to think M is the Bugster but I believe its the other way around since in the last scene, Parad was happy that 'Emu' came back.
The preview was such a tease...I thought Hiiro will turn into Ex-Aid. Next episode we have Snipe level 50 and Parad fighting Hiiro. He is probably happy the other riders got level 50. Emu is going through heroic BSOD...probably gonna end when he obtains level 99 next month.

yeah I know, what I mean is what relationship between Para and Emu( Not M ) - and Para keep saying "let's play Emu" but M is more good at playing game than Emu ._.
I thought M and Emu is one ( not Emu is a bugster and M is original <--- because at the first surgery, i think Emu already want to be like doctor Hinata, but also he's addicted to game, and second surgery, he's serious want to become doctor, so that's why i think Emu and M is one )
so that's why i'm surprised because Para said "Okaeri Emu"

This might be my favorite season of Kamen Rider. Every episode just keeps getting better and better. I really like these Level 30 Bugster designs they're really cool. I'm curious to see how Snipe gets Gashat Gear Dual Beta next episode since him and Hiiro don't get along.

So no one gonna mention the reveal about Chronicle needing data from the bugsters of the original 10 gashats...and who one of those bugsters is?

Wasn't Graphite the boss of Drago Knight Hunter Z?

It was never specified iirc, he just used the data of PDKHZ to make himself stronger

This show is just amazing. Honestly.



It's like I get a new favorite Rider every week. Before, Pallad was shining and now Hiiro is shining.


Emu's actor is pretty great too. Going from soft-spoken, quiet genuinely nice guy to cocky asshole like that and pulling off both convincingly can't be too easy, but he did it.

And yeah, I'm hoping Taiga doesn't die from using the Dual Gear but there's definite death flags surrounding him. Maybe they're setting it up so Nico becomes Snipe....maybe?

He was a DKHZ Bugster though, when Emu scans him in episode 5 he shows the same symptoms as Hinata did when he was infected with the DKHZ virus in episode 9. And his attacks make reference to dragons and things. Deductions can be made.

Yes please. After the catalogue leak about a certain upcoming Rider I was annoyed Nico wasn't gonna be one when she honestly should

Well holy crap taddle fantasy just straight up gives the user magic. Really hoping those powers dont disappear after this episode

Am I the only one who was kind of hoping for a Ryuki throwback when the finisher was about to hit?

What I find interesting is Genmu needs the data from the Bugsters...and our favorite over the top hyper side girl just happens to BE one of them! I have a feeling this will play in the end...

Speaking about the Bugsters...couldnt Poppy be the bugster for Doremifa Beat? xD

its either that...or they skip to jet combat since its Snipe's level 3 gashat.

I'd doubt that. DoReMiFa Beat is Hiiro's, after all, and it's quite telling that they didn't skip Robots instead considering this was the Hiiro episode.

Of course, they're also skipping Chambara for a bit, but...eh, who knows. For all we know it's like the Collabos case and the next person to get infected gets both Chambara and Combat...

They DIRECTLY stated that Poppy was a Bugster from DoReMiFa Beat.....

Anyway, for my thoughts on the Episode, trying to avoid what's already been said: I LOVE TADDLE FANTASY!!! At first I thought it was OK, but after seeing it in action, WOW!!! Not only does this thing aesthetically look awesome in combat, but THE THING CAN SUMMON LOW-CLASS BUGSTER MINIONS!!! THAT'S SOOOOOO COOL!!! Not to mention the telekinesis & various magical tricks. It's like Hiiro doesn't even need his Sword anymore.

Now, one thing that I don't think many people have caught onto yet.....But didn't ANYONE take note on how this Bugster operates? Since it's a high level(Lv.30), apparently high-level Bugsters can do a number of things:
1. When breaking out, instead of becoming a separate entity, they literally manifest over the host
2. The Bugster can disengage through some sort of "Sleep Mode," and rest back inside their host, dormant until they restart

Now, why am I bringing this up? Because where have we possibly seen this before....? "But GloryXros, this is the first high-level Bugster we've encountered---" OH REALLY...??? Ever stop to think that EMU's BUGSTER IS ALSO POSSIBLY A HIGH-LEVEL ONE?!! It manifests "over" Emu looking like.....well, Emu, and the thing will awaken & sleep at certain times. And after all, we're talking about a Bugster that apparently can mask itself from the detection of the CR tools, and is by far the most mysterious Bugster we have thus far in the Series, to the point where we're not even sure if Emu or M is the Bugster persona. This VOTW actually left possibly one of the biggest clues on Emu's Bugster.

Wait, no, that's not the part I was responding to, but that they skipped to Jet Combat because it was Snipe's. I obviously know Poppy is DoReMiFa's because I said as much in my own post in this thread earlier.

This is what I get for my unspecificity.

Who says Nico won't get that Rider form? You're assuming based on name of it alone. They could surprise us, not like they haven't already.

The catalogue specifically mentioned the character's name, and it wasn't Nico

And? I'm well aware of what name it was. Doesn't mean it's linked to the character you think it's linked to. The show has thrown curveballs already. They could still. If anything, I hope it's not the obvious character and it is Nico. It'll be a shocker for sure and it'll be awesome.

My friends and I had some theories on this. Here's what basically me and my friend thought of.

What if Poppy doesn’t end up becoming a rider and instead Nico does.
What if something bad happens to Poppy later down the line and her and Nico are more friendly, but Poppy is unable to fight.
Nico has been expressing her ambitions to become a Kamen Rider. After all Poppy is a bugster, bugsters are typically defeated in order to access the full potential of a gashat.

Who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Honestly, I don't trust any of that. It's all just way too obvious, and this show has been leaving more questions than answer half the time. I'll believe all that when I see it happen and I'll be disappointed if it does. Feels lame and weak.

Yeah, the toy scans wouldn't outright lie like that.



The possibility for Nico to become a Rider is still there. Weren't those last scans just for the 3rd quarter too? Everything up until June has been revealed, and the series doesn't end until around October.

Personally, as of now, I don't think Nico becoming a Rider is an absolute necessity. She's doing well enough as a kid sidekick to humanize Taiga.

Actually I feel I should clarify, regarding Chronos. I mentioned when I posted my translations that I wasn't completely sure if it was actually saying it was Kuroto, and after having checked elsewhere it turns out that, indeed, the catalog wasn't explicitly saying Chronos was Kuroto, just that Kuroto made KRC. It still might be him for all we know, but it isn't confirmed (also sorry for misleading you with my amateur translation, world). Poppy though, yeah, there was nothing ambiguous about the line that says she transforms.


Also I feel I should mention, if Kamen Rider Chronicles is accurate to how Kuroto described it, with regular people becoming Riders, not only Nico but pretty much anyone has the potential to be a Rider. So...we'll see.

Not much I can say about this episode since everyone else has said their opinions. Though, I just want to say that the awesomeness of Brave Fantasy will sooner or later falter, cue to CSHT's clips where Brave is having a hard time with his copy. It's also weird that Brave snatched back his Taddle Quest Gashat and DKHZ Gashat, but not DoReMiFa Beat Gashat since it's Hiiro's personal... To be honest, I really hope that they won't kill Taiga in the near time since he recently gets a good development and his scenes with Nico are always interesting and funny. At least, not until Ex-Aid has his Final Form since I expect the form to use Gashacon Key Slasher's LV 2 and LV 3 Gashat combination finisher. I also hope that Nico will either transform into a Rider later, either to Snipe or Lazer, I really miss the suit. Oh yeah, does anyone know how the characters in the series pronounces Emu or M's name? Since, I'm confused whether Pallad said Emu or M in the last scene.

One thing I think is interesting is that Brave, Paradox and eventually Snipe will all have forms stronger than Ex-Aid's strongest form as of now. Ex-Aid's done a great job of making all of the Riders feel useful.