Kamen Rider Revice Episode 39- "Hope & Despair, The Conflict Between 3 Siblings!"
 

The power of Ultimate Revice inspires hope in humanity once more.

and this arc shows what happens when you blow your load halfway thorugh, this ep is basically setting everything for next week up. the preview for next week also makes it obvious what's going to happen here Daiji sees Akeshi's monster form realizes he's been maniuplated this whole time and that Akeshi was behind Akemi's death and rejoins the good guys. I'm more interested in seeing if KAgerou will be back (we'll probably see Evil's equivalent to Holy Live in a V Cinema)

Oh Daiji, why you are so stupid?
Seriously, he even more annoying than Kenzan and Daiji's conflict is really forced and boring....
But, maybe Kagerou can be comeback because triggered by Daiji's negative emotion..

that's another issue with this arc this conflict is fine on paper(it's basically the Lelouch vs Suzaku argument "Maybe if we don't fight everything will all work out") the problem is DAIJI SHOULD HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH EVIDENCE AT THIS POINT TO CONCLUDE FENIX IS CORRUPT/AKESHI IS EVIL/GIFF WANTS TO KILL EVERYONE/IKKI DIDN'T DELIBERATELY KILL AKEMI (at least with Rintaro in Saber we understand why he'd be hesitant to turn on the Sword of Logos since they were basically the only family he ever had at one point in his life and when he saw SOL try to kill Mei just to hurt Touma he realized how corrupt they were and flipped)

honestly the worst part of this show by a country mile is the villains other than Aguelia(Whose been redeemed I'd be fine with this if the show didn't warp itself to let it happen but whatever), Julio (who is barely in the show but he was fine in that he actively hasn't annoyed me yet unlike Giff/Akeshi/Daiji and he is on the good guys now I'd be fine with this if he wasn't just there), and Otelca(who I said it before and I'll say it again they shouldn't have killed him off when they did)

I kind of don't care what happens in this show anymore. It's mostly all just background noise at this point, what a shame.

Daichi is such a ridiculously dumb written character though. Absolutely awful. The only saving grace in this episode was Sakura calling him out on his bullshit and was absolutely going to physically rip him apart if they would've let her. I wish they did.

Seeing George handing over the Drivers makes me hopeful to see the real Kamen Rider Demons return though, that would be cool. Also, Kamen Rider Vail obviously still has some role to play, I only today remembered that his belt and the Kabuto stamp have still not been released as toys, meaning they have a function that was not yet shown. And Vail did just offer a partnership to Daichi that the latter might now be desperate enough to accept after what happened and is going to happen next week.

Was it just me, or was that whole actoin sequence at the end in that forest filled with a lot of really awkward and abrupt cuts?

Very much a Part 1 of 2 episode, this one, and the preview does seem to heavily indicate that this thread of Daiji turning to the dark side is going to end(?) with Revi and Live punching it out.

I do find myself wondering though, after that brief scene early on with Vice talking to Ikki about humanity and Gifu possibly getting along if... that could actually end up happening? As of now, we've not had any reason to assume Gifu is anything other than an evil force of nature, but what a twist would it be if it turned out to be something for our heroes to get to know and befriend instead?! It would be one heck of a way to make Akashi and Vail 'lose'.

I appreciate Akaishi having an actual Deadmans form because by this point in the last two shows they usually can't resist making a major villain into a Rider.

I'm surprised it's not more based off of Apollo Geist though. Is it meant to homage Great Leader? It doesn't really look it. It reminds me more of Z from ToQger.

It's Episode 39!

-Things are getting a bit wild as we rapidly approach the endgame, they even pulled out the Amazons filter for a bit! Let's see what we have here....

-Hey! Akaishi commented on Revice's new power, but Daiji....You were literally watching their debut, saw them dispel a direct attack from the Giff you're so scared of, and yet you still say what they're doing is a waste of time?! I know he's off the deep end, but not even addressing Ultimate's potenial seems like he's being willfully ignornant.

-I know I'm probably not supposed to take Vice's line seriously but like. I wonder how "peaceful" method of combating Giff even work..? I haven't been keeping my pulse on the show's mythos on demons(Im not sure the show is either, at certain points!) but like. Isn't Giff like, an alien or something. I feel like that inherently puts a wrench in understanding each other, in comparsion to normal demons, who are inherently connected to humanity, in all its good and evil? It's a tricky thing to figure out.

-We get more Hikaru focused beats! I actually did want something like "Although the Ushijima family is a mere ruse, Hikaru grows attached and starts seeing them as such, and protecting that "family" is a major part as to why he fights as Over Demons". However, this is.....Ngl, it's an interesting idea with a fumbled exceution? For starters, Weekend Mom's been absent for like a dozen eps, quitely returning to the cast at EP 36. She's by far the least developed of the family by a landslide. If they wanted to make me feel something, at least give them a moment or two, can't you?

(I will say Vice suddenly going up and hugging him, that was unexpectedly sweet.)

-The last chunk of this episode....it's a Lot! There's always been an implication that Daiji and Sakura are a bit closer to each other than to Ikki (younger siblings typically are!) so Sakura being unwilling to fight makes sense, but her staying untransformed for so long feels a bit weird? We've seen Jeanne can play defense plenty of times before too? Daiji..is a mess! For all his talk about justice and protecting the world, he really just sounds a blubbering fool trying to lick his wounds, hurling insults at his family that could be easily directed at him. It's ugly, it's pathetic, it's an downright embrassing look-and I'm kinda enjoying the ride. Granted, I wish the road to this path wasn't so.....ham-fisted/strung together at points. Looking forward to see how the hell Ikki pulls him back from this one seeing the level of delusion he's operating on.

Maybe Hiromi (even Kagero) do something about Daiji's problem. Some darkness is missing in Daiji now. He's to blinded by order and not letting chaos be.

Oh, hey. Akaishi is gonna get a monster form. Neat.

Anyway, I can actually see why Daiji is being the way he is. He's not his brother, who meddles in things he doesn't understand and gets rewarded, nor his sister, in which reality itself warps around. He's a realist who did everything in his power to save those around him, and still failed.

Mentally broken, he's taking the path of least resistance. He knows Akaishi is playing him. He knows Giff is evil. He just wants to save as many lives as possible. Conversely, Ikki and Sakura wants to give humanity a choice rather than live under oppression. However, that means lives will be lost, as demonstrated in this episode.

The key issue isn't about whether or not Ikki can beat Giff. It's about how many lives will Giff, Akaishi, and Vail can (And will) take before he can accomplish that.
(Unfortunately, the series does seem to imply that Daiji doesn't have faith in Ikki's ability to win, but still, this point does stand)

Anyway, despite building up to the climax, Revice is definitely dragging it's heels.

I gotta be honest, I entirely forgot that Ikki was losing his memories until this episode dredged it back up again. The fact is handled with so little consistency and weight, on top of the show trying to juggle 50 other things, that it just completely fell by the wayside. It feels a bit emblematic of Revice as a whole.


I do still rather like Daiji's ridiculous mental breakdown across these episode though. The dude is just so unable to cope with everything, and even the show itself is calling him out for how ridiculous he is being. It's painful, but in a good way? Definitely awkward at parts, I feel like the whole "You killed Akemi" part could be entirely left out, since it feels so forced. The bit of the episode with Hikaru was... a nice idea in concept, even if once again it is a little hard to take the implementation serious since they haven't leaned into the fake family thing for a long while. I keep thinking this, but Revice simply tries to do too much. I feel like they cram enough concepts into the show to create two entirely different shows!

I find it funny that you're saying Revice is doing too much, when in reality, it's just really, really bad at handling multiple storylines.

It just brings up one story thread, then kinda just drops it for numerous episodes at a time.

I'd be fine with this if Daiji were built up more instead of the writers just having him sit in a corner

that and as I said they wrapped up ALL the interesting plotlines halfway through leaving us with the WORST VILLAINS I NTHE FRANCHISE (Ikki's an alright protagonist but like with Touma you need a compelling villain to make him interesting/make me root for him) and considering the fact that This is the same franchise with Adel from Ghost in it that's saying something (at least with Ghost my excpectations were LONG gone by the point he was relevant)

The public gets more spotlight this time. And this ends in a cliffhanger.

As expected, Daiji's the one that is blinded, instead of the others, because he'd still be fixated to ARARAT's cause and vehemently rejecting any other solutions or views. Though to be fair to him, Akaishi still acted smug after Ultimate Revi/Vice's appearence. Previously Daiji's still acting like edgy secondary Riders, but now he had started to commit actual villainy, using brutal methods to get rid of any obstacles in his cause, like beating up Tasuke (he's a shithead here, but the reason is unrelated to that), siccing Giff Juniors on the humans (that's some Baron level crime), and of course what he did to his siblings, even more that he tried to pull a gun on unmorphed Ikki or Sakura. While Daiji wants to prevent bodycounts, he ironically would potentially cause more of it. Early on Daiji's someone who's characterized as being insecure, and after his persuasion is denied by the citizens, he blames everyone else but himself, and I wonder if this is also more about Daiji trying to prove himself 'right' instead, which'd be actually selfish. Which if it is, this is one of the most disastrous consequences of middle child syndrome. A sliver of hope would be that Daiji still being disgusted at Vail, someone purely malicious.

George meets up again with Hiromi and the mass production Demons is teased... a̶n̶d̶ ̶D̶e̶m̶o̶n̶s̶'̶ ̶p̶o̶t̶e̶n̶t̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶n̶e̶r̶f̶. I like that George's atrocities before isn't forgotten with Hiromi being suspicious of him at first. Like if Hiromi finally had the higher ground on his bullies (and George was). Though as George stated before, he'd try to help him if he can, and apologizing to him though not expecting to earn it. R̶e̶g̶a̶r̶d̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶S̶p̶i̶d̶e̶r̶-̶M̶a̶n̶ ̶s̶t̶u̶f̶f̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶e̶,̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶'̶d̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶i̶n̶d̶ ̶m̶e̶ ̶a̶ ̶b̶i̶t̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶S̶a̶n̶d̶m̶a̶n̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶e̶x̶p̶e̶c̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶f̶o̶r̶g̶i̶v̶e̶n̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶S̶p̶i̶d̶e̶r̶-̶M̶a̶n̶ ̶T̶r̶i̶l̶o̶g̶y̶,̶ ̶m̶i̶n̶u̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶g̶l̶o̶o̶m̶y̶ ̶d̶e̶l̶i̶v̶e̶r̶y̶. Hiromi at the end almost punched George, but later fist bumps his chest instead, signifying that George had both committed despicable actions in the past, but now has been redeemed. George wasn't a case of turns out he's good though (also in his apology), he probably was evil in the past before changing.

The people here surprisingly had steadfast belief on Kamen Rider, to drive Daiji away when he tried to influence people into giving up on despair, despite the edited footages that made Weekend looked actually villainous. Still if they're using actual footages in their schemes, I'd like if footages are used in Weekend's plan, though Genta stated Ultimate Revi/Vice's fights are uploaded.

Regarding the fights in this episode, I'm relieved that Ultimate Revi/Vice still walks through Hell Giftarians easily, despite a bit struggle against the mooks before. And after all the jokes about Jeanne performing better than Holy Live, now Holy Live is the 'unstoppable' berserker here, swatting away the girl Riders and holding his own with Ultimate Revi/Vice. As said above, Ultimate Revi/Vice is still consistent against Hell Giftarians, and at the end, Ultimate Vice defeats Holy Live by reflecting the attack back to him. So perhaps it's about Ultimate Revi/Vice holding back, for obvious reasons. Again like before, I kinda wish that the Rider and fighting part would be addressed more like explaining how Ultimate Revi/Vice can hold back Giff beam, for example.

For the remaining parts in this episode, though Daiji had a case of this before, now it's infuriating to set up a story for someone, but continue it later in half-assed way.

Ikki losing his memory about his family, the onsen moment, is a throwaway here just to show how dire the current situation now that they need to fight harder. Though appreciate Vice's method of trying to get to know if his memory loss is getting worse. Unrelated is about Vice's solution to co-exist with Giff peacefully, that's ironically Vice following Daiji's footsteps, though Vice may be proposing about befriending him instead of letting Giff rule over them. I have to say I kinda like that Genta's more active father of his family now, after stop acting like Junpei, other than just doing some (in-universe) asinine gags before, including at Vail Legacy part 5 before.

After getting little focus, albeit she gets more lately, Kimiko is finally killed, and this weighs on Hikaru despite that the family is fake. This does show more about the remaining 2's characters, that Hikaru seems to have no one else than the Ushijimas and thus is lonely, which probably would mean Hikaru got hit by tragic circumstances regarding his real family, and that Tasuke is someone rather cold and ruthless in his cause as well, the type to degrade emotions and feelings as 'naivety' (albeit Hikaru really got slowed down by his feelings there). Previously, he's surprised at Masumi's unethical practices, but now, Masumi's the one that called him harsh. But the Ushijima family being fake was also only a throwaway line when the cast joined Weekend, and it was never elaborated on how a fake family live together, compared to real family like the Igarashis (harmonic) and Karizakis (dysfunctional), just like the missed chance to flesh out the Hell Bros in Build as child soldiers, even if Sakura had dope words for Hikaru that fake or real doesn't matter in a family.... like adopted kids, and ironically, most KR series use the 'fake' family type in the main cast's circle. If only the previous KR reference (perhaps with George) is still there as a potential 4th wall breaking material too.

While obviously Giff is a bad business, it seems that Giff is never about killing everyone. Living under his rule would suck, but tyranny isn't killing the inhabitants (or not mainly about that, there won't be anyone to live yet). There are villains who are actually just that but don't assume any villains as someone like that. Other than someone that probably made the footage, Fenix was also actually mostly good, outside of Akaishi who happened to find the organization however, the other members there mostly joined there due to being heroic with good intentions, including Hiromi, Wakabayashi, Akemi. George was the sole exception, and he too was like a plague among Fenix, but now he's redeemed.

Vice ironically suggested what Daiji is doing currently, to have Giff being unopposed so the humans would be at 'peace' without fighting Giff that would just get them killed due to Giff's unbeatable power. About Giff being an alien, that'd be actually prejudiced view to suggest that different species are incompartible with humans. There are previous series that has good monsters that get along with the heroes, like Cubi or Burgmon, though of course some of them are killed. Prejudice fueled some of the villains' goals in some previous Rider series, against the human's favor ofc, like Negishi from Kabuto who had to turn every humans into Natives for 'peace'.

This is a good explanation about how Daiji is 'pure' after getting rid of Kagerou, not necessarily about moralit, he's cleanly on the order side without any compromise and too much of that leads into an extremely rigid approach to get the job done.

Tbf, other than some miscommunications, Ikki's by far the most reasonable here. He's trying to not scream at Daiji for being an idiot, he tries to reason with him and isn?t slapping him across the face with final form, actually for before he's even actually letting him speak his piece before (miscommunication happened, but that'd be not being busybody). While Daiji got too caught up by emotions by all the deaths, riling him up and taking it out on anyone else he can like Ikki or Sakura, somehow blaming them for the shit Akaishi did, and at this point he's barely able to speak to others without getting into fights. And while Sakura had good reason to stop him, even she's also unreasonable in dealing with that, berating and attacking him isn't gonna make things better, you can't punch a person into no longer believing the accusations they hold on you. Daiji calling Sakura a murderer and her calling him an idiot as they punch each other is probably gonna make things worse. Which was probably why Ikki's the one that has to settle this next.

About being a 'realist', he technically also had a blind faith to Giff, just believing any of his words like that humanity would survive, but the truth is, he isn't being told everything. It'd be ironically 'naive' that Daiji would trust a demonic entity like that without second thoughts. He's similar to the sheeps eating up the promises from crooked company or politicians, moreover if he blindly believes the edited footage. Actual dictators and tyrants (pretty much what Giff does) are also occasionally use peacekeeping intentions as their excuse to rule. And for what he pulled in this episode, it's unknown too if Daiji would be potentially a hypocrite as well that he can create more casualties and excuse them as "necessary" for the desirable goal or something. More like in this situation people are gonna likely get hurt no matter what Daiji does.

true can't rule over the human race if everyone's dead

I feel like Daiji's actions are actually fairly consistent with what we've seen from him as a character, albeit manifesting in a more extreme and destructive way.

Daiji is basically middle-child energy personified. Old enough to feel the burden of guilt and responsibility, but young enough to still feel like the "baby" (even though Sakura technically is). The latter part is what resulted in Kagerou, who represents the built-up resentment Daiji has towards his family, most notably his older brother. Kagerou wanted to step out of Ikki's shadow by eliminating him, but what's most important is that since Kagerou didn't have any of the moral hangups that Daiji has, he was actually willing to act on his goals. Remember that Daiji's Rider career didn't even start of his own accord. Kagerou was the one being active, making all of the plays while Daiji was in the passenger's seat of his own body. Even when Daiji became Live, it was because Kagerou posed an immediate danger to everyone around him, and the only one who actually could stop Kagerou was Daiji gaining control of his own body. It's been said before, but Kagerou, for all of his faults, was the fire Daiji needed to kick his ass into gear, and he doesn't have that anymore.


And now, Daiji continues to have some major middle-child energy, but it's recontextualized. He's still wracked with guilt and responsibility fueled by moral obligation, but he's now reverted back into a passive role because of that guilt. There is no Kagerou to take over his body, get in his head and force him to stir the pot (for better or worse). All he's left with is his guilt and his righteousness sense of justice, no rebellious spirit to kick his ass into gear.


I've actually quite enjoyed the arc Daiji has been given here.

RIP Weekend Mom. You died as you lived: with almost no dialogue.

Disagree. Kai from Den-O is the worst villain in the franchise. But yes, Giff and Co. also dangles somewhere at the bottom.

In fact, the episode was quite good. Very dramatic, even melodramatic in places. Finally, Hikaru was developed, albeit in such a cruel way. But, by the way, Revise was never afraid to kill characters (does this mean that the world will be rewritten again in the finale?). It even played into the hands of Hikaru becoming Rider. After all, he wanted a belt, because he could not do anything without it, but it turns out that even with a belt he is still not able to protect a person dear to him. Cruel.
Of course, Kinoshita is in his repertoire: girls console crying boys. And if this was in the subject with Sakura and Hikaru, then the scene with Hana and Tamaki is clearly superfluous. I still think that Tamaki needs to save the former queen of the deadmen in order to move on in his own way.
Daiji of course quickly switched to active villain. But his motivation... In short, it's Michi from Gaim, if he was really stupid. It is strange that he is so surprised by the reaction of people when he himself is not able to explain why Giff needs to submit. Or rather, it's the show's fault for not showing off a strong enough main antagonist. About Kagero: for some reason it seems to me that his ghost follows Daiji with a constant facepalm. But still, I liked this episode much more than the previous ones and I look forward to continuing.

This was a good episode... Except for one thing. Daiji.

I said it before, I'll say it again. They really butchered Daiji in the last few episodes. Even if he mistook Ikki for Akemi's death, I fail to see why he'd become obedient to Akaishi, the sole person he swore to take down, and led to Akemi's fate in the first place. Maybe they are trying to get the Daiji becomes Kagerou angle, but I'm not buying it. What they're trying to accomplish isn't bad, but it just doesn't feel right.

Rant over.

Seeing how the two sides use phycological warfare was very reminiscent of some of the war themes Build was going for, and seeing (some) development for Weekend, like Hikaru was very nice to see. The little scene with George and Hiromi was nice, and Vice being concerned with Ikki was pretty good. Just the central plot about Daiji failed to land for me.

Next Episode: Prepare to Dai.

I suddenly thought that Revice is very in vain does not use the ability to copy the final form. In the previous episode, it was clear from the different behavior of the Vice clones that they were not just repeating the movements of a copy, like the Wizard. Therefore, it was quite possible to leave some of them to protect the shelters, some to send to patrol the city, and deal with Daiji themselves. Then maybe no one would have died in this episode. And, most importantly, you wouldn’t even have to spend money on CGI, because you just had to shoot all the same Ikki and Vice in different locations. Although, maybe I just misunderstood the cloning mechanism.

Somebody really should have told that boy that he doesn't have to keep going to work if his boss is trying to subjugate humanity.

Rather amusing the Daiji is essentially acting like a Inoue written character when Inoue is writing a show where he isn't doing his usual writing.

In my opinion, they either needed to make a more trusting relationship between him and Akaishi, or better show the power of Giff. Because in the end, Daiji himself can't explain why humanity should give up.

To be fair, the Donbrothers aren't even halfway through yet. It always seemed to me that Inoue, when he started filming the show, had no idea how it would end. For me personally, endings have always been the weakest point of his series.

is Don Brothers any good I quit Sentai early into Kyuurranger honestly is it bad I think they got Inoue back because they thought "he saved the franchise once he can do it agian" cause I'm told LuPat/Ryusoulger almost killed the franchise

true Jetman's ending screamed "We didn't know how to end the series let's kill off a major character"

555's ending arc basically tanked the show for me (despite killing off the worst character in the franchise in the most karmaic way possible)

You really should check out Kiramager. It’s a very solid Sentai series.

I Wanted to watch that since I loved Steven Universe when it aired(or the first 3 series before all the good writers left) but the fact the MC from that show resembled the idiot red hero who screams every 5 seconds steered me away (The reason why I dropped Kyuuranger was because If I had to hear Lucky yell "YOSHAAAA LUCKYYYYYYYY" one more time I was going to go crazy)

ya i was hella confused in this episode as a Bunch of unnecessary drama was stirred up. I get that writers are trying to write a story about sibling clashing, but making Daiji a comeplete moron isn't the way to go. It would've been better if there was better defining moment of him switching sides. Like Akaemi dying could've been a good pivot point for him, but they kind of gloss over by having Hiromi literally appear out of thin air. LOL. I hate when TV show stir up drama between characters because of a misunderstanding that could be solver if they just said what happened. Its really bullsht storytelling in making Daiji just oblivious.

Also felt like this episode was hella rushed. Video directing-wise.
- when Hikaru(useless kid) barges in on his dad, for some odd reason the whole place was a mess even tho 10 seconds before he barges in. The room was organized and everything was in place. Legit no scene to transition.
- the other scene was when Daiji henshins and jumps over the railing. Somehow daiji and ikki tumbled into forest even tho they were just in the shelter??? Like who is directing this? Its simplest stuff that can be easily fixed. Where are the damn transition scenes.