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Locke

04-14-2014 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga (Post 345014)

Where did the Morpher and Key come from? Unanswered.
Why are there suddenly sixth keys when there clearly weren't before? Unanswered.
Why does Silver use specific three keys to transform his mech? Unanswered.
Why is his mecha called the Q-Rex, yet nobody bothers to explain why? Unanswered.

Where did the morpher come from? Utter nitpick. We still have no real clue where the other morphers come from or how they really work, unless you say "because Gosei" the Silver Morpher has had more of a backstory and an explanation than any other tech in the show so far. Whether you like that backstory is your gig, but it doesn't suddenly somehow become bad because you're picking holes where holes are not needed when you can just enjoy when the show does something well for once.

Were the sixth Ranger keys not in the command centre before? In terms of this, I never noticed. I just knew keys were on the wall but I never actually took notice of WHICH keys, so I just assumed they sixth keys were always there. That might explain why the sixth keys looked so shoddy when they focused on them.

In terms of the Q-Rex, they clearly state "The Q Rex from Time Force" or something like that. Is it a bad explanation? Does the Q Rex resemble Timeforce the least out of the three shows it is made up of? Yep on both accounts. But that doesn't mean that it ISN'T an explanation, and once again any issues with the explanation are personal and nitpicky at the best considering everything else in the series is 'because Gosei'.

Starscream Gaga

04-14-2014 07:26 AM

A Morpher with all the sixth rangers (Robo Knight included) on it as well as a key specifically the same as the other Rangers is found inside a rock on another planet with absolutely no explanation and thinking that big Question Mark needs to be explained even in the slightest is nitpicky? I disagree. And yes, it does become bad because it wasn't a real explanation. It wasn't an explanation at all. You being satisfied with it doesn't stop it from being awful. It wasn't done well there.

"Because Gosei" doesn't even work for this specific thing is because pretty much the first thing Gosei said was that he was "of Earth" so an inferred explanation that he made them and put them in a rock on another planet doesn't make a lick of sense. Eitherway the fact that the show has been utterly crap at explaining anything when it comes to these powers doesn't stop this part from being utterly crap too.

I guess the Q-Rex thing is vaguely an explanation but it isn't even close to satisfactory. The Q-Rex wasn't even in the Year 3000 and the fact that MMPR Green and DT White are used without anybody even pointing them out just adds to the confusion.

But no, the scene with the MMPR Green, Quantum and DT White keys glowing was the first time the sixth keys were there, similar to the Megaforce keys suddenly spawning on the wall in Episode 3. Everyone was expecting something with Silver to happen to explain their appearance, especially considering they avoided using them last episode, but alas, Super Megaforce. I'm beginning to think the Keys will never be explained.

I don't think legitimate holes count as nitpicking, really. I accept real nitpicks like "why did he say it took him so long to fix a ship" and "why did he take it down with a slingshot" because they are really nitpicky but no explanation of a Power(s) or a returning Zord are significantly bigger issues and I really don't think calling them nitpicks are fair. Sure, they're ultimately ignorable, but you could say that about most problems of any show, just because you can enjoy a show flaws and all doesn't stop the flaws from being flaws.

AkibaSilver

04-14-2014 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga (Post 345317)

A Morpher with all the sixth rangers (Robo Knight included) on it as well as a key specifically the same as the other Rangers is found inside a rock on another planet with absolutely no explanation and thinking that big Question Mark needs to be explained even in the slightest is nitpicky? I disagree. And yes, it does become bad because it wasn't a real explanation. It wasn't an explanation at all. You being satisfied with it doesn't stop it from being awful. It wasn't done well there.

I might have an explanation. We already know there are Power Rangers from other planets, (Alien Rangers and all these new ones), so we know the morphing grid is spread throughout the universe (and, as we see in the Samurai/RPM crossover, all universes) and in a Dino Thunder episode, we see the physical form of the morphing grid. It may be a bit of a stretch, but is it too hard to imagine that the rock the Super Mega Silver Morpher was found in may also be linked to the morphing grid? Maybe, the crystal thing seen in DT was a link to the morphing grid, similar to the rock seen. Trying not to get itself blown up, which may damage the morphing grid in some way.

Starscream Gaga

04-14-2014 07:33 AM

Which would be an excellent explanation if the show ever bothered to leave even an implication to it. That's the problem, any explanation of anything in Super Megaforce is fanon.

Battlizer

04-14-2014 09:43 AM

Oh man this episode was kind of awesome. Orion has an actual backstory and a pretty cool one at that. He also seems to have more personality than the other rangers, but I feel like that must be contagious since the other rangers actually had discernable personalities this episode. I actually smiled at their antics! They had antics!

Gai's overeagerness is played off as Orion's thirst for vengeance and him being used to working alone. Yeah, the who e Q-Rex thing raises one billion questions, but overall I thought this episode was fun.

Also the fact that they actually thought of an explanation as to how the rangers found their way to the command center is pretty surprising. I hope the future episodes continue to up the quality....when they get here in five months.

Quick, someone remind me....last time this happened didn't we get the first half early on netflix? And didn't we eventually see some episodes leaked due to them airing in other countries that aren't as stupidly uptight as Nick is about airing these?

Locke

04-14-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga (Post 345317)

Snip.

I'm not disagreeing it was bad, but I am disagreeing with the fact you are completely disagreeing with what is there. Is the Silver Morpher being from Adrashia (sp) a good explanation? No. Is it an explanation? YES. Do I hope they go into more detail than this? YES. Do I actually think it will be given how the rest of the tech in this show is treated? No, right now we know way more about the Silver Powers than any other power in the show.

The rest, like the Q-Rex Megazord, are still nitpicks in my mind. There is one thing to ignore a glaring issue, ala the terrible editing, but another to question the logistics of the logistics in the first place and complain it doesn't add up. Yes we should expect more, but after Megaforce literally had no script, it was just sentai footage with people shouting over it, I'd take anything that even vaguely resembles a story and set of characters. If you don't want too, FINE, but don't act like there is no story at all as that is a flat out lie in this two parters case.

ZeoRangerV

04-14-2014 03:46 PM

Man, the team really need to learn to lower their voices when talking about their ranger activities :lol

The clothes changing bit was awkwardly cliche and the Q-Rex stuff poorly explained (the new look I'm fine with, more the fact they didn't explain why the Green MMPR and White DT keys were relevant), but this has been a solid 2-parter. Orion has a great backstory, a good personality and may actually be able to take this show somewhere. Here's hoping he is to SMF what Antonio was to Samurai.

Of course - Antonio alone couldn't save Samurai and Orion inevitably can't save this on his own, but it's hopefully a step in the right direction. Guess we'll find out when? September? :rolleyes

Sanddeath

04-14-2014 03:56 PM

It seems like the only other person who can act in thi show besides Orion is Jake. I feel he actually can act pretty well.

TokuKnight89

04-15-2014 04:18 AM

Only Opinions...

Only opinion follows here.

The "Q-Rex" thing was just them being cute with naming for the whole anniversary thing, but also because Time Force is involved in summoning. The matter is sad and it's painfully obvious most people agree. I have given ideas on how to make it better, but a few more have popped in.

Only opinion follows here:

- The Q-Rex should have been the "Rescue Rex"

- GojyuDrill: Rescue Rex Flyer

GojyuRex: Rescue Rex Fury

Gojyujin: Rescue Rex Fighter

- Part One and Two follow how GokaiSilver was introduced. Switch them.

- Have an episode devoted mostly to Orion and how he got his powers.

- Basco appears as a displaced king from the future who fought Time Force.

- He is also an old apprentice to Broodwing from S.P.D.

- A couple of unused of Goseiger and Gokaiger monsters could appear.

- Surprise appearance by an Orange-Head Krybot with a Trizirium Crystal.

- Outside of MMPR Green, Robo Knight, and Titanium: All-Sixth Rangers.

- Orion gains powers and leaves home planet. Part Two is him on Earth.

- Rescue Rex is secretly commissioned by Titanium and built by Basco.

- It uses the inner core of Serpenterra and is based-off Dinosaurs to match.

Only opinion is presented here.

tempest

04-16-2014 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by AlphaGrandCanine (Post 344677)

Just a suggestion, but you might want to throw in some punctuation to your bold statements.

You can scream 'never have high expectations' until youre blue in the face, we ALL know this is a kids show aimed at children of a young age, the insane appeal to people on the autistic spectrum is also striking (ive worked with several kids who literally devour the franchise like a crack addiction) so they will never put any effort into coherant, logical storytelling because quite honestly, they dont need to. Stupid works, kids treat the story as a bridge between fights, but fanboys will never stop trying to make sense of what actually cant be made sense of. I wish people would stop trying to make logical sense of the continuity or the actual show, I think its an appalling waste of time and effort.

Also, the target audience is not just the USA, its western audiences. Sorry, but I always take a bit of an issue when people discount the rest of the world in discussions like this.

THAT BEING SAID! I hate this show, the acting is shit, the storylines are paper thin and the dialogue is laughable, but this episode i kind of enjoyed. No the plot doesnt make much sense, i think their attempts to make the show fit the footage is struggling, but the sci-fi flashbacks were a cool inclusion, the shopping/haircut scenes were kind of fun and Orion seems to be capable of acting. Azim is no longer alone, theres now 2 capable actors on the cast!!! Even if most of his acting is emoting.

While Im WAY past the point of being able to truly enjoy a Power Rangers series, I honestly didnt mind this one. Theres only about 12 episodes left and I cant say I will watch them all, but I will give it a go.

To me its like looking at the Trasformers Age of Extinction Dino Sparkers subline. Most fanboys will get all butthurt and tear it to pieces in all their colourful ways, moaning about hasbro screwing them yet again. I will look at it, see the big letters saying 'Ages 4+' and say "Well im close to 3 decades out of the target audience for this, its not my bag but its not a bad idea for the little ones'.

But it can be done though, you can actually make sense in the this show, we see it countless times with the Super Sentai and even see it sometimes in the older shows and especially RPM, it's just a matter of actually trying.

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