Question: Has there ever been any mecha in the Star Wars universe? Like mobile suits from Gundam or something like that? Always struck me as odd that all this other crazy stuff in the main movies happen (Planet destroying planets, massive space wars in outer atmospheres, e.t.c.) but no troopers in mechs flying around?

Movie watched. Now to catch up on the topic since I can accept spoilers heh.

I freaking loved it.

I liked it I wish it took more risks, but I can understand why they played it safe. I was not expecting it to be basically Episode 4, but hey. Also, when Han died, one dude was like "I didn't expect that" and I almost said "Really? I was." as soon as Han started walking towards his son I was like "HE DED!!!" Interesting to see how he was the Obi-Wan of this movie. I really liked Fin, and Rey was cool. I was surprised that Fin was a red herring in all the marketing, and he was in the movie as well, though the more it went on the more clear it became that this was more Rey's story. I was kind of surprised that we only got 30 seconds of Luke at the end, also wow Phasma did nothing, disappointing, since Disney was pushing her super hard. I'm sure glad I didn't buy into the hype and order her Figuart. Poor Han, no matter the continuity, his son becomes evil, but at least Jacen never killed his father. People say that Ben was whiny, and I disagree. He was more angry than anything else. Yeah, he threw a tantrum everytime something didn't go his way, but I mean...not all sith need to be brooding serious dudes. He's a kid who's confused, and i think they captured it well. It was executed far better than Anakin. I can understand why people might have a problem, because it reminds them of Anakin, but Kylo/Ben I think does that character type right, and does it well. Yeah, I'm now looking forward to "The First Order Strikes Back".

I'm fine with the movie being at it's base the same as Episode 4, I do kinda wish that they took some risks, but I can understand them wanting to play it safe here. It still was a good movie. I hope they switch things up and do their own thing in 8, which I think they will. I wouldn't go so far as to call it "nostalgia baiting" though.

BTW, was that Coruscant that was blown up?

So basically being a Senator in the Star Wars universe is like being a red shirt in Star Trek.

Let me preface this by saying I haven't seen Force Awakens yet, so I've skipped the previous posts in this topic. Anyways...

After re-watching the Star Wars special editions, the changes made aren't as bad as I remember. There are a few that really bugged me though, along with some I actually prefer.

Changes I liked:
- More close-up shots of the Sandcrawler. It makes the thing seem a bit more believable, and helps set the setting better.(ANH)
- Anakin's ghost. It's not like the original guy did an excellent job portraying Vader or anything. All he had to do was stand there, so we may as well make it the actor known for the Anakin role.(ROTJ)

Changes I don't necessarily like, but can deal with:
- The snow yeti thing. It was more mysterious when you couldn't see it, but being able to see it adds a bit more context to the scene (ESB)
- Sarlacc pit. There was a certain charm to a hole with teeth, but the tentacles at least make it look like an actual creature (ROTJ)
- Most of the CGI monsters in Mos Eisley and the "Look sir, droids" scene. It makes everything seem more lively (ANH)
- The added victory celebrations on Naboo and Coruscant. I understand why they did it, but it really wasn't all that necessary, was it? (ROTJ)

Changes I don't like:
- Jabba and Han's scene in the Falcon bay. I'm not against Jabba showing up, but the scene says all the exact things that Han's scene with Greedo did, and worse at that. Greedo's scene made Jabba seem more mysterious and dangerous, while the scene with Jabba makes him seem a bit more forgiving. It adds absolutely nothing, only detracts from the movie. (ANH)
- Greedo shooting first. All the reasons for this have been explained elsewhere on the internet. I don't like them shooting at the same time either, but it's better than nothing. (ANH)
- The monster that walks in front of the speeder immediately before the "These are not the droids you are looking for" scene. It blocks out a good 2 seconds of the screen and adds absolutely nothing to the movie. (ANH)

Almost ruined the movie:
- The CGI singing monsters in Jabba's palace. They're poorly designed, the CGI is bad, they're WAY too cheesy, and they ruin a scene that makes Jabba seem really mean. I almost want to try to open up the movie in Windows movie maker just to cut those out of the film, but unfortunately, it doesn't really work that way. (ROTJ)


Any other changes are either negligible, I didn't notice, or I forgot to list.

Maybe its because I'm acting myself but the replacement of Anakins old actor is still the thing that bugs me the most about the special editions.

So the Special Editions showed off the Wampa more and added CG tentacles to the Sarlacc Pit?

It's a toss up between that and changing Boba Fett's voice for me. I get the continuity and all but they just seem huge slaps in the face to those who originally portrayed them.

Werent the originals still credited?
Oh and Kylo's fireblade lightsaber is perfection.

Noooo in returned the one thing bugs is reason I have not upgraded to blu ray yea I like prequal I will only upgrade them to blu ray not original trilogy

SOOOOO MUCH BLACKED OUT TEXT!!!! :lol

Did anyone catch that Simon Pegg was the junk dealer dude?

As for Kylo , people didn't complain about Anakin's whining because he whined. They complained about him because of his stilted acting and horrid script reading. The dude was reading a script, he was not acting. Kylo's actor is actually performing.

Oscar Isaac is just one of the coolest dudes acting right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7N17DN8wRk

I freaking loved Episode VII, I've been meaning to mention it since I saw it Thursday. I think it's my favorite Star Wars movie, then probably the prequels. Kylo Ren was my favorite character from it, he was fantastic. Also loved Rey, Finn, Poe, Han and the others. I actually liked the characters a lot in this. I mean it gave me new respect for Han too. Well I can't wait for the next one.

How does 7 start and end? I doubt it changed from how the last 6 did, but does it still do the classic text crawl over the iconic theme song ending with something happening in space kick starting the plot and the ending theme has the iconic ending theme and blue credits?

Also does the lack of the bombastic 20th Century Fox credit kill some of the initial excitement (if only slightly) or was the music for that actually something exclusively for Star Wars and now it's redone to be seen over, like, Disneyland Castle or something?

Crawl In the film its not star wars film with out film and missing 20th century fox logo not much and it just lucusfilm logo no Disney logo before just lucus film just like it just marvel studio logo for marvel film just lucus film logo

Ending stayec the same as well if memory serves me right

He's great, comes across as so fun and amicable. :lol

Well...

Anyone else notice how Kylo smacked his chest and we saw what looked to be a blood in the snow? I doubt it was Han's blood because lightsabers instantly cauterize. Knowing the Dark Side, I presume that he had a sharp spike under his clothes aimed into his side that he beats to cause pain and misery so he can draw power from it. Anyone else think that?

Looks like Yokai Watch beat Star Wars this weekend in Japan

http://kotaku.com/star-wars-the-forc...ium=Socialflow

Star Wars has a big fanbase in Japan and one of the very few Western franchises that are big over there.

Why would we think that when he was clearly shot by Chewie in that exact spot minutes earlier? That's where it came from.

Huh, must've missed that.

Then again, blaster shots cauterize too.

Didn't see the Disney castle anywhere.

And since Hamster-san response was a bit muddled, yes, the the opening and the ending are still the same.
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Saw the movie yesterday, and it was EPIC.

Some Trivia:
*The New Order Stormtroopers are much better solders then the Empire's ones. Hell, they even are equipped to counter lightsabers! (Electrostaves. Rember the MagnaGuards?)
*Kylo Ren's Crossguard Lightsaber is unstable. I don't know what that means.
*Was Chewie's Bowcaster always that powerful?
*The First Order are basically SPACE NAZIS. The Supreme Leader is an alien called Snoke. And Darth Sidous is permently dead.
*Admiral Akbar is still alive.
*The reason they didn't reactivate R2 is because he was in low power mode or something. They weren't going to take the risk of reactivating him and finding out his memory banks were wiped. Also, he only had 90% of the map, like the First Order. BB-8 had the last part, and the part of the map which had the planet that Luke was hiding on.

Spoiler tag the following, those weren't revealed in trailers ergo the uninitiated shouldn't see them.

But then again, anybody that knows their Star Wars universe knows that Sidous was never "reincarnated". Just cloned a couple/few times.

In Legends, yes. Here, no.

They changed it?! Damn it!!

And he wasn't shot by a blaster, it was Chewie's Bow Caster which is a significantly different type of weapon.

The entire expanded universe has been out of cannon for nearly a year. Disney & Marvel have stream lined continuity to only be those things which are included in the official infographic timeline for now. As new products are produced they will become officially part of the canon. But everything pre-Marvel in comics is gone. And any of the older novels are out as well. Just whats on this list counts now. Its a HUGE image by the way.

Thank you.

I fucking loved this movie. Sure it did have flaws, but at the end of the day, I didn't care, it was well made. The prequels were just so bad and this with some of the cartoon shows made up for it. I'm really excited to see what happens next in 8 and 9 and just learning more and possibly clearing details up for those who don't follow the new EU canon.

@Den-O - Sadly the image is big, but when I pull it up, it's still quite skinny and small. So I can't read it.

I found this amusing. It is from a Simpsons's episode back in 2009.

http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/...pspg55piky.jpg

Wow. Man is that accurate. TFA is an apology (and torch-passing, both in universe and IRL), and Alvin and The Chipmunks might as well be rabid at this point with how pointless Road Chip is.

Finally saw the movie and while it felt kind of incomplete and some parts were poorly written, overall I liked it. It combines my favorite aspects of both trilogies, and introduced possibly my favorite character in the entire SW universe (Kylo Ren)