Not necessarily dealing with a relationship per say but I still think its worth posting here.

I don't feel like any girls are into to me. Not just relationship or looks wise, but personality wise too. I crack jokes and can be caring but my friends always go back to the other kid who's more fun then I am. So I just feel.... not lonley... but distant, from every other girl my age. Not to say i don't have any good female freinds but its just nobody pays attention to me for that long.

Is it just a mental thing I am thinking just to explain this shit or should I (or have to) change in order to make myself more attractive?

You shouldn't have to change for anybody, let alone to make yourself attractive. I can understand your doubts though. It's a tough thing trying to figure why you can be a genuinely nice person to people, especially those of the opposite sex but be passed up for somebody else for either a romantic relationship or even a regular old friendship. It's one of those things that's hard to come up with an explanation though. You could be liked but the person just likes somebody more and finds them more fun to hang out with. Don't let it get you down and don't change. Just stay who you are. Sooner or later, you'll get your time to shine in your group of friends, and maybe even find someone special to be with.

This is a really common thing to be feeling when you're not in a relationship.

It's not your anything that may cause this situation. It's just that everybody has different interests and someone out there is interested in someone like you. You just need to find them. If it helps, try finding girls that share interests with you, and no matter how far-fetched it may seem, she will exist. Just be patient and don't lose hope.

People like us are just waiting for the right person to show up. That doesn't mean we shouldn't change, though. Sometimes, the diffence between "friendship" and "more-than-friendship" is going that extra mile for that person you think is special.

But living on the fringe isn't so bad. You meet a lot more people to share in your eccentricities.

Like a lot of stories, this one starts with "so there's this girl at work..." and honestly I'm not exactly asking for advice on some sort of direct question but as my only friends know the girl in question, I don't really have anywhere to vent this so ch'yeah.

You see, the girl in question is older than me, not massively but older, she's also pretty important at my work and I'm...well not, so there is a certain barrier between us at work naturally anyway. So I quickly allowed myself to appreciate her as something pretty to look at, and didn't let feelings run into anything else. However, over the course of subsequent training sessions, talks during breaks and just the slow burn of budding a relationship entirely contained in a work place we got a lot closer, and started to get on a lot better. She started complimenting me a lot, especially my sense of humour and just how I am as a person. A girl should be allowed to compliment a guy, without the guy assuming they're into them but I was into her already, and once she started saying things like that I couldn't help but wonder in a way I'd managed to stop myself before.

But then there are other things. Firstly, she's not movie star gorgeous, but she's pretty in a girl next door way and she clearly knows it. She isn't slutty, or overtly flirtatious but she puts it on a bit, and as cute as the overall effect is, the fear of her being disingenuous is my main fear now.

We all put in on at work a bit, but higher up folks do ESPECIALLY as it's like half their job role. So right now I feel like I'd love to ask her out, worst she can say is no but at the same time I think it'd crush my soul a lot more if the no was then followed by the fact that she can't stand me at all and was putting it on for the sake of her job or that she was deliberately just generating this interest for her own amusement as she likes the attention.

I also get that this makes either her sound like a horrible person, or me like a total self privileged weirdo but I dunno pretty girls with a lot of male attention don't generally compliment me so readily, and seem to enjoy my company so much and whenever they have it's never ended well for me.

Can I post in this thread without this topic? After this, yes. :lol

(Anyone remember that time I tried to ask a girl out and she was a B about it leading to a bunch of other BS? Yeah her.) She was in trouble or something, my parents helped her, apperantly she was having boyfriend trouble, so she had come crying to me. I think acted like I cared, saying some romantic BS, then did what she did to me and pretty much told her to shove off as I knew she didnt really care anyway.

Yeah. I have strange dreams and this girl gets in them every once in awhile, a few weeks ago it was her and her friend (who is more of a... B, than she is). My subconscious is weird. But I think last night was me fully realizing finally aint shit gonna happen.

So I found a girl I like and I think she likes me back. I become the most confident I ever am in my life when I talk to her. Problem is, she isn't tell me straight up that she likes me because all of the people she hangs out with and even in our class are pressuring the shit out of her. When I said some confident things to her, they were constantly saying that I was her boyfriend and that she wants to suck my dick. And I don't like a crowd pressuring me while I'm trying to do something. So how could I get her to talk without dudes around her acting like that?

Try and get her phone number or message her on a social site where you can talk privately?

Offer to casually go out for coffee or tacos or something and chat with her there, free of asshole influence.

• Talk on the phone
• Text
• E-Mail
• IM
• Casually hang out
• Video chat

Pick your poison

So there's this freshman girl I like. The problem is that she's two classes younger then me. How to I talk to her without invoking that sort of awkwardness of someone older asking her out.

How old are you?

She's 14 and I'm 16.

Last year there was this girl in my class that I didn't realize I liked until the last day of school and now she is at another school. I keep having weird dreams where it's like me and her are either boyfriend and girlfriend or I confess my liking to her and she accepts it.

I am the only one who feels weird that I am discussing my feelings with people on the internet.

Your 16 and she's 14 not much of an age difference. Become friends with her then if she has the same feelings for you then go for it buddy. Your gonna have to take a break when you become 18 though

Me and my girlfriend, who I'll call Mezool for the sake of privacy, are doing alright. The distance thing is a drag but there's nothing to be done about that right now. It is nice dating a woman for once who's into what I'm into. Toys, Power Rangers, and even about the same taste in music. She didn't seem to like the first episode of Fourze, but she is willing to watching episode 2 on Friday so hope. We decided to watch an episode a week.

That sounds great for you. =) How far is she away from you? I have dated long distance before too and it does suck.

How many girls do you like in such a little short time span... This is a first I've seen o_O

So this has been in my head for a while. There's this girl that I like, we've been friends for like a few years now, and she's the reason I've gotten into Wrestling. I have a crush on her she has a good heart, she's caring, she's family oriented, and we have similar interests she loves comics and wrestling and I love comics and wrestling. It's just I've always been nervous to ask her out because it's not that I'm afraid she'd say no or were good friends is that she barely has a life of her own because of all the responsibilities she has to her family and not sure if she'd have time for a relationship. Also I'm not sure how she feels about me, and there is the also other thing to mention is that I asked out her best friend, and she said she liked someone else so that didn't go anywhere and I'm still friends with her too. So I'm not sure if it's weird to ask her out or not. So should I ask her out?

*dusts off thread*

Figured Id post this here, started talkin to a cute girl from work who is geeky as I am, not for Toku, but more for anime and comics, either way awesome.

We've already been on one date of sorts. Planning to go on one again Sunday night, but today at work she told me she had just gotten out of a relationship and wasnt lookin to get together with anyone right now. So we're pretty much at a 'friends hanging out' deal at the moment. Guess Ill see what happens in the next few months. Nothin will probably happen as she is leavin in a few months. But I might as well try and see what comes of this.

Rule number 18147: girls usually don't want to date again so soon after a relationship ended- at least not just anyone. But exceptions happen.

I think being friends for now is a good thing. If she happens to be actually interested in you romantically, she might change her mind during that time, but if she doesn't, at least you two had a great time.

P.S.: Pro tip: Don't be too pushy about your interest in her. If she said no, accept that until she changes her mind out of her own will- because trying to convince a girl into dating you after she dumped you once is a no-no. Talking from the girl's side: It's hella awkward. And can be annoying if you're extremely persistent. Speaking from experience here.

If women don't find you handsome, hope they at least find you handy.

Ive pretty much told myself this, and but its good to hear from someone else.

Personality have been in the dumps for the last day or two. I will be turning 25 soon and I still feel like any girls are never into to me. With every girl I find, they turn me down, end up being a fake (on online dating websites), back stab me or I just become a friend only. I've experienced nothing but rejection. I've read articles and articles on how to be confident, what women want, and how to be a man. I'm a nice guy and I do like nerdy stuff, but that's how I'm. I don't act odd or strange around other people. I act normal, but yet no one ever wants to like me. I can be emotional than most men, but I'm not a cry baby that cries at everything. People tell me that I'm more aware of my emotions in a realistic way than most people and it's not a bad thing.

Girls just want the bad boys or the gangster type of people. I feel like the people that like the stuff that I like are hard to come by and are already taken. I also have aspergers and I feel like no like me because of it. I talk, think and walk like a normal person. No one could tell if I told them. It's not like I'm like "Hey I have aspergers!!!". I would love to be with someone that understands me, someone has something in common with me and can like me no matter what. Even if they know if I have aspergers that they can like and love me.

Sometimes I feel is loneliness, and sometimes I just want cut off from my own humanity. I fear that I will be lone for the rest of my life. I do wonder if it is better off dying young or living alone for the rest of your life. You could say "You will find someone". What if you did find that special someone, but they are always taken by someone else when you get the chance. I feel like that my life is over :cry.

I know that feel bro. Sometimes I wish betrothals and matchmakers were still a thing. Sure those have their own issues, but when you're this niche in your interests and not particularly outgoing or social enough to "play the game" you end up feeling desperate.

Still, there is virtue to the single life as there is to the coupled life. It's just harder to notice.

They still do exist. They're called mothers and fathers. :lolol

One, in the milieu of Western society instead of some remote village in the Sichuan Province, betrothals and matchmakers don't really exist anymore.

B, my parents don't know anyone with lonely single daughters into the stuff I'm in to. I'm an anomaly to them as it is, most of my family and family's friends are all rugged sportsman or craftsmen-types.

And Γ, are you just trying to be clever? :lol

Sorry for you predicament in relationships. I'm in the same boat.... sort of. And maybe I was trying to be clever. Never know.

I would've assumed that while statistically your singles pool is smaller, it was easier to meet single gay guys because that singles pool is smaller and those in the pool would be more active in making their availability known whereas in a straight singles pool, which is much larger, it's more passive because folks bank on the size of the thing and cosmic RNGs.

Then again I'm not gay so I don't know what the gay dating scene is like. I barely know what the straight dating scene is like.

I'm an anomaly because according to a lot of people I don't come across as gay at times. (How this is possible I have no clue.) Also I'm a nerd so even other gay people find it as a stigma. And I'm not very attractive. So yeah....

I feel kinda this way too sometimes. This year I've given up looking for a girlfriend because, what's the point, I'm a senior, going to another state to go to college, I'm not gonna get anything meaningful out of it right now. But I'll start looking again at that time. Maybe someone that important will be there, maybe she won't.

I think a lot of people feel the same way we do, some girls included. They probably think "why do all the guys go after mean chicks?" or something like that.

Well, the only person I wanna be with is currently studying in Peru. Until she comes back we promised to Skype, but given she's there for studying, and wi-fi for her sucks, not that easy. She's my best friend, I've known her for 7 years and despite all the girls I've crushed on between those times my heart keeps wanting her. She is going to be my +1 to my sister's wedding later this year and I'm hoping to finally ask her out by then, but until now, all I can do is hope she'll finally see me as not just her best friend, but as something more.

Phew, now with that off my chest, the earlier talk reminds me how all my parents' friends want to set me up with their daughters. 2 years ago when I went to another wedding, I saw a girl I hadn't seen in years. She grew up into a lovely young woman and the short amount of conversation I had with her resulted in her mother calling me her son-in-law as we said goodbye to one another :lol. Few months later my parents told me that she was asking about me with smiles on their faces. Of course though, they're only joking and know I have feelings for my best friend :lol

Well you're in High School. I will tell you that dating in High School never works 90% of the time. Better wait until college to start dating. At least you will be a adult and you are more mature enough to know on how you feel about someone. I try to date someone in my senior year in 2008-2009 and it didn't work. It hurt me for a while.

Wow, I never knew this thread existed. Time for me to unload I guess

So I just moved to a new town. At this point it looks like it'll mostly be a summer thing. Anyways, I started off having a thing for this girl that works at Barnes and Noble down the street from my apartment. I'd go in there and try to find something to buy or something I needed help with so I'd have an excuse to talk to her....I never actually talked to her though, but somebody else there that knows my name called out to me by name while she was standing next to him and started talking to me. So she at least knows my name...or did, I haven't been there in at least 2 weeks.

Then I just start working a new job and develop a crush on another co-worker. We decide to hang out socially with some other workers after our shift at this place. My apartment is down the street so I say I'll meet her there and run home to change...turns out the place was closed and I had no way to contact anybody so I just went home and watched tv like a bum. Figured I'd figure stuff out the next day and hang out again. Wasn't there. Go in again next day...not there. Finally after 5 days of her not being at work I start asking around and somebody says he thinks she got fired and told me to message her on the website where we get our schedules. So I do that...turns out she was in a big car accident that wrecked her vehicle and sent her to the hospital. She's doing fine and recovering but it was still pretty bad and she's in a lot of pain still. Pretty terrible. We sent a couple of messages back and forth, she apologized for inviting me somewhere that was closed lol, but that's about it. I probably won't see her again for a while. I did manage to finally find her on Facebook though. She's single, but I really think her and some guy are getting "there" but it could just be a close friend.

Now...here's the thing. If i'm only in this area for a couple of months...should I pursue either of them? Should I give up on the second girl because 1. we work together 2. I won't see her for a bit and 3. she seems to be into this other guy? We get along pretty well and I detected some flirting when we were last working together, so maybe. Maybe I'll only leave a couple of eggs in her basket and focus on other stuff for now. To be honest though, if all that comes from her is friendship, I'm totally okay with that. I don't know if I even want to date anybody at the moment. What I do want though is somebody to go on dates with...just not actually be in a relationship. Does that make sense? Does that make me a bad person?

Then there's the girl at the book store. I haven't even talked to her. She's seen me and like I said she heard me talking to another worker (and she seemed to be paying attention to the conversation). I still don't know anybody around here aside from a few co-workers. Maybe I could go in and say "hey, I'm fairly new and don't know anybody around here." or something to that effect.

I don't even know if it's worth pursuing anything because I might not be around here for more than a few months. What I do know though is that there are a lot of cool places for dates but I need a girl to go on a date.

I have a slight form of autism. I can think and feel like a normal person and no one can really tell. I have a hard time at studying things, but I can act like a everyday normal human being. I do worry that if a girl found out that I have some type of autism and avoid me. Stuff like this does make feel depress at times.

if they avoid you, then they are stupid. Stupid and very immature. So don't get depressed about it. :D

I never act creepy around people. I'm also shy when it comes to meeting new people. I can't walk up to people at stores, bars or any big places and be like "Hi". It same goes with going to cons. I try online dating and it never works for me.

I'm the same way. You got my support and understanding bro.

Don't worry too much. Autism is getting more clarity in recent years, and people are learning a lot more about it. I don't think she'd try to avoid you if she found out, and seeing how you operate, I doubt she'd ever really learn unless you straight up tell her~

And it's all cool. A lot of us are shy. I'd much rather stand in a corner than interact with others not because I want to work on my Batman impression, but simply because I'm as shy as a mouse.

Ladies and gneltmen of Tokunation I give you a nerd. :lolol I jest, I jest. I just couldn't pass it up. Sorry Matrix. Love you man.

But yeah, I'm nervous about meeting people in large groups too. I too tend to stand in the corners of the room or off to the side and watch everyone else mingle.