Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga (Post 439451)

This is why Underused and Neverused exists.

Pokemon is badly balanced. You're never going to see a wide variety of Pokemon ever unless you go into Underused and Neverused tournaments because the absolute fact is that 98% of Pokemon can't compete with that other 2% ever. At least Overused cuts out a percentage of the insanely overpowered Pokemon and adds some variety, but some Pokemon are just simply more viable then others.

Anyway I'd say there's about 25 common Pokemon is overused.



What point are you trying to make? You're helping what I'm saying.

Flygon and Kingdra simply can't compete with most OU Pokemon, hence why they're never, ever seen online. Again, this is why Smogon sorts them into tiers and has specific ruled matches, to allow Pokemon like Flygon and Kingdra to be usable.

Also Salamence?



Because they're not as good. Rotom-W is by far the best of the Rotoms and Hippowdon is simply not as good as Tyranitar at all!



Its a website that sorts Pokemon into tiers which allows players to use Pokemon that are not able to compete with other Pokemon ever in matches where they aren't simply insta-lose.

Uber- Only legal in Uber matches
Overused- Legal in Uber and Overused matches
Underused- Legal in Uber, Overused and Underused matches
Rarely used- Legal in Uber, Overused, Underused and Rarely used matches.
Never used- Legal in Uber, Oveused, Underused, Rarely used and Never used matches
PU tier- Legal in all matches. The worst of the worst

Additionally, the ability "Moody" and 1-Hit KO moves and Swagger are banned in every tier plus Double Team, Minimize and more than 1 Baton Passer per team are only legal in Uber.

Outsiders are M-Lucario, M-Gengar, M-Mawile and M-Kangaskhan who are Uber, but their base forms are allowed in lower tiers. Blaziken and Aegislash have the distinction of being the only non-Legendary, non-Mega "Uber" Pokemon.

They playtest and discuss where Pokemon can fit in and where they're too unfairly powerful to be included, by judging things such as how many Pokemon can logically counter them or if they effect the game in a negative way. They also focus on de-centralizing the game by eliminating the Pokemon that are so powerful that every team must have a specific counter for them or simply lose the match.

A lot of whiners don't like it because... Honestly, not many people actually have a good reason to not like them. Usually because they get butthurt when Pokemon they like such as Blaziken and M-Kangaskhan are deemed too powerful to be allowed to fight against Pokemon that they have an unfair advantage over due to stats, attacks and abilities or for whatever reason they ignore the existence of "Uber" matches and say it limits the game. I've also seen people not like them because they get bitter because a Pokemon in a higher tier they don't like is objectively more viable then a Pokemon in a lower tier that they do like.

Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga (Post 439451)

What point are you trying to make? You're helping what I'm saying.

Flygon and Kingdra simply can't compete with most OU Pokemon, hence why they're never, ever seen online. Again, this is why Smogon sorts them into tiers and has specific ruled matches, to allow Pokemon like Flygon and Kingdra to be usable.

Also Salamence?

Because they're not as good. Rotom-W is by far the best of the Rotoms and Hippowdon is simply not as good as Tyranitar at all!

Originally Posted by Yellow Ranger (Post 439724)

*nods* So is smogen official or just a fan thing?

Originally Posted by losondro (Post 439752)

Remember people: today (the 20th) is the last day to opt in for the trainer club email to get your demo code on the 21st.

Originally Posted by GoseiWonder (Post 439728)

The points I'm trying to make are that OU is boring, Flygon and Kingdra deserve some love regardless, the other Rotoms still have their place (though Fan would be great if it got Hurricane and there was an item that negated Abilities that it could Trick onto others), and Hippowdon actually can take a Mach Punch to the face.

But yeah, I just want to use and see more use of the sadly unloved Pokemon. Why can't we love more of the classics man?! Mr. Mime can wall Dragons now!

Originally Posted by Deathryuger (Post 439799)

This is pretty much my whole issue with competitive Pokemon battles. You are pretty much guaranteed to see some grouping of six Pokemon that come from the small 30 'mon pool. It gets boring and you usually have to join that group to compete on a regular basis.

Originally Posted by Rocky505 (Post 439882)

North America is getting Glalie in the demo. Japan are the only ones to get Steelix. What a load of shit :mad:

Originally Posted by Rocky505 (Post 439882)

North America is getting Glalie in the demo. Japan are the only ones to get Steelix. What a load of shit :mad: