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I know people get really butthurt on this forum about names being translated but when I watched Dairanger with these kinda subs, not only was the quality of the video way higher than TVN, I could actually get a grasp on what was actually being said.
With TVN the translation feels half finished, in the way they refuse to translate attacks, weapon, mecha, Japan specific language beats etc |
I only really feel that way about nouns because they're names, so in those instances they're named those things even in English. For example, the SRC Gokai Oh and Daizyujin figures still have their names as those in English, rather than "Gokai King" and "Great Beast God" respectively. Plus in keeping things that way avoids situations like Over-time had with Go-Busters, where they translated Go-Buster Oh to "Go-Buster King" only to have a real Go-Buster King show up later down the line.
In the grand scale of things though, in an age where most subs are easily editable it shouldn't make a whole lot of difference. I don't care about the Ornac thing in Gaim because it takes me about a minute to change the script. Its an issue with TV-N because they're still insistent on using mp4 hardsubs. |
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Well maybe I'm in the minority then, but a Ryuusei-Oh for example is a meaningless string of letters to me, it's just gibberish. Dragon Star-Lord sounds clunky as fuck, and goofy as all hell, but at least each one of those words is something I can directly associate meaning too.
Same with shit in Boukenger like 'Bouken Bou'. Bou, means rod and I think bouken means adventure? So why even leave it as boukenbou? Because Adventure Rod sounds dumb? But that is what those words mean... You could say that it seems needlessly nitpicky but I just find the attitude in the first place baffling. There is a difference between character names as in human beings, I agree, we should leave that alone. William would never be addressed as 'helmet'. But weapons, mecha etc are objects, the name for them is what that object is, not a personal identifier for a unique one, so leaving those translations unfinished is stupid. If it was like 'Sam the Bouken Bou', you'd leave the name alone but that is 'Sam', not the rest. I have no fucking idea what a bouken is or a bou is and just giving me a ten second TL note at the top for a split second doesn't help me associate meaning for the rest of the series. |
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Slight tangent but its the example I always hold onto in this argument :lol |
It sounds goofy, as these things always do in a direct translation, but as silly as it sounds at least they are individual words I can associate meaning to and are what its actual name is anyway.
In itself Gurren Lagann the words mean nothing to me. Coulda called it floobidy doopidop and given me the same amount of resonance to the words. |
The way I see it though, a noun is a name regardless of original language. My name is Alex, but I wouldn't want people calling me "Defender" would I? :lol
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If it was called Alex the lamp, then you'd leave Alex alone as that is a name, but the rest should be translated because none of those are names. Weapons and mecha don't have names, unless the series directly identifies it as such. An Adventure Rod is exactly that, it isn't the Adventure Rod called the Bouken Bou, so Bouken Bou should be translated to Adventure Rod which is what those words directly mean (at least I think) as they're objects not names of the objects. |
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Also, RyuseiOh (along with various other mecha in Super Sentai) are somewhat sentient. Surely that qualifies as them being names in the sense you're talking about? |
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If it is sentient and directly identifies itself as something, I'll give you that, it's a name. But if it's just a giant robot the model of robot is not a name. Take the Voltasaurs for example, voltasaur is what Gabutyra is, its the identifier for the object so whether or not that translation is made up, it should be translated. But as Gabutyra is what the individual Voltasaur identifies itself as, that is its name and should be left alone. |
More Megaranger!
As I watch, I think I have a favorite character in Shun, Mega Blue. As a character, he's not something special or unique, but episodes focusing on him tend to be my favorites (Of the 15 episodes I've watched). I'm also really loving Galaxy Mega. Such a clean design. The Astro Megazord was one of my favorites in Power Rangers, and I love it just as much here. The Booster Rifle looks like glued together cardboard, but the rest of it, from the sword and shield to the robot itself, looks beautiful~ |
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Well, the brand new series I have to watch with my laptop connected via HDMI under Media Player Classic, but that is for series like Gokaiger and beyond. Quote:
Let me ask you this out of curiosity. In ToQGer, do you want them to translate the villains names as Baron Black, Madame Black, and General Black instead of Nero, Schwartz, and Noir? Another example on translating names is sometimes they just don't sound right. Take the series Jigouku Shoujo for example. It translates into Hell Girl, which is what it is called in the US. I think it just sounds dumb that way as it should be Jigouku Shoujo. Yes, either way it correct, but just because it is correct does not make it sound right. Or another one, Golion. Yes, the Beast King being translated in English sounds fine, but what about the Golion? Would you rather they called the series Five Lion in the US? Quote:
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Boukenger 3.
Boukenger is a bit messy, to be honest with you. I get that as they travel the world looking for Precious, different cultures and villains will come into play and that is actually an aspect of the show I love. No I'm more struggling with the Boukenger's themselves, in terms of travelling around the world their mecha is really practical. No the weird thing is the way the show focuses on speed, racing, like it's their theme when only one of them has a race car. Seeing a big dumper truck trundling along to the sound of zipping race cars is silly and not in a good way. And ironically the race car is probably the most useless out of the individual vehicles as well even if it fits the weird theme. |
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Kyoryuger 29. Tessai is a badass - where is my Grey SHF?
I never felt much connection to Torin, but for them to be crying over a fake statue so convincingly, made it pretty poignant all the same. I should probably comment on the acting more, because for a camera so focused singularly on Daigo, or the under aged girls around him, the whole cast are really fantastic. Seeing everyone dealing with their own grief during these scenes while being slammed firmly in the background showed they were putting in more effort into their performances than the show honestly deserves. Really disappointed in the development of Carnival, so lame having the same gimmick as the mecha and mixing all the colours together really doesn't work for such a busy suit already. Not to mention the clustered, clunky and clusterfucky way he has to lock in the batteries and transform. Base Carnival is great, Climax is ugly and boring. The backup fight was actually way more impressive, it's a real shame that wasn't the focus, but I realise now hopes for stuff like that are pointless. Dat song though, so bad, although the genetic memory thing isn't quite as horrible as I might have expected. |
Finally on the Kyoryuger game, lol. Just finished Ep. 4, slow build up to the team as a whole was nice, made the characters seem a bit more invested into each other in the end of it. Don't feel the suits at all, just don't like the look to them one bit. Maybe I'll warm up but certainly not at the moment.
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Boukenger 04.
I love the use of mecha in this show, although it's just another arm swapping gimmick, it's just all so well designed and implemented. The mecha actually feels like a core aspect of the series, and not just something tacked onto the end of the episodes for toy sales. It's just full of really great ideas really, love how their mecha power their suits and they're like power suits rather than just colourful costumes. It makes the powers feel like a *thing* which sentai seems to do so rarely. Sadly I like the objects in this show more than the people, if Daigo had too much focus the Chief has way too little. I mean it was an episode focused on him, but everything about his personality, motivations and backstory are just generic hero bullet points, they gave absolutely no greater insight into him as a person. That is kinda the problem with all of the characters so far, we know Souta used to be a spy who grew sickened with what his spying did to people but that still doesn't really give us any insight into him as a person. We know Natsuki lost her memory, and is on a quest to find her memories but that isn't an excuse for her to be defined solely by how annoying she is. Then we have Masumi and the pink one, who are both basically bits of the scenery, and Masumi only stands out at all because he's such a raging dick - and has bad teeth. |
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But I didn't know anything about Dynaman. Who returned from that series? |
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Yeah, Dantetsu is someone else, but I'm pretty sure he was the Red from some '80s Sentai. Besides that, there's that one monster voiced by Ninjaman... EDIT: So he was one of the main villains in Fiveman, interesting. |
I thought they were all good/decent characters beyond Daigo, Amy, and Yayoi, myself.
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Ian is the total opposite, but because of Daigo everything good about Ian always gets overshadowed, his direct connection to Deboss, his leadership skills, Daigo screams over all of it and he's utterly wasted. Nossan and Utchy are the only core Kyoryuger's which I can say I genuinely love, but Tessai is probably my firm favourite. Quote:
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2: We share favorites *nod of approval* |
See look, those naysayers about me skipping episodes and yet we arrive at the same conclusions!
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The main Kyoryugers I can say I like with little hesistation are Utchy and Ian. I know Ian gets overshadowed by Daigo, but I still like him nonetheless, for when he gets to shine, he shines brighter than Daigo ever could.
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Everyone else seems rather static compared to Ian, who, I felt, actually grows. |
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Also, yeah, the guy who did the Meteor monster's voice is the same guy who did Ninjaman (also Dr Z in AkibaRanger and Franky in One Piece). |
Gekiranger 4-6
Really liking the Five Deadly Venoms. they're more or less glorified monsters of the week who last a bit longer, but their personalities are pretty cool since their goal appears to be striving to prove their martial arts better than the rangers rather than just destroying stuff as monsters usually do. I really liked the fight between Retsu and Gecko on the side of the building. This series really came up with some pretty creative fight scenes, I think. Even Mele was impressed with it! |
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