Ah, well ill watch it whe iget done with this episode. I would watch decades part but i have no interest in watchin it right now :lol so ill just watch the w part, would i have towatch the final part too?

Watch the last team up bit though, just for the elephant. Before seeing that I had little to no interest in watching W ( I didn't and still don't really like his designs...) and yet that sold me on it. Of course I later learned that it would never be in the series and I actually came to really enjoy W for its story etc and should have watched it sooner

I wouldn't say it's full of it.
It's just...Par for the course, concerning the rest of Kabuto.
Which could be considered "Full of it" if that's how you view Kabuto :lol

Yeah. It has nothing to do with... anything, let's be honest.

Skip Decade's half for sure, and I'd just watch the end. It's, like, maybe ten minutes if you stretch, and it has a really good, important scene at the very end.

Plus, the elephant. And also it's always neat to see all the riders fighting togther even if they didn't get anyone besides Momotaros back to voice I think.

Oh Kabuto's full of something all right...


It's full of hot, stinking, viscous air...!

That pretty much sums up...All of Decade.

By the end of the series, there are only 3 parts that mattered.
The Rider War.
The Double Henshin with Black and Black RX.
And All Riders Vs. DaiShocker.

Literally. Decade's entire series is about him going around to alternate universes of the previous 9 riders and saving them.
During the finale, Every alternate universe is destroyed, making episode 1, and episode 31 the only episodes that matter.
Nothing else brought up is explained. Tsukasa never expresses any emotion over what goes down (No regret. No anger. No sadness. Nothing. He was totally fine), kills all the original riders, retcons him killing them away in All Riders, and the audience is left in the dark.

Then Double happened and told a cohesive story.
And the world rejoiced :p

Double must have been a massive breath of fresh air after Decade.

I'm so glad OOO kept that level of quality, and I'm so sad it apparently slipped with Fourze and just disappeared with Wizard.

BTW, Uchihabro, you cannot miss W A to Z. It's the movie near the tail end of the show, is also in-continuity and, well, is frigging awesome. It takes place between episode 44 and 45 if I recall, and is also on Youtube so you have no excuse. :D

Kiva 17

Okay, time to get the explanation as to what happened last episode.

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No? Alright, then. I appreciate what they did explain, though. that the three monsters somehow became pals with Otoya and made a promise with him to not harm Wataru...Or something. Even when in the present plot, the past plot is more interesting.

Still doesn't explain why they left him on a table and buried him in rose petals. Monsters are weird man. But that's not the most bafflingly insane part of the episode, no....

What the fuck is up with Nago and the buttons? Are they important? Why must he have them? Will they make him less of a unlikable piece of shit?

I see he already dropped the dino-crane, though I guess he didn't need it for this. Are his power-hijacking items also a one off occurrence?

Also...why do they let that jackass keep IXA? He's supposed to be going after Fangires. Kiva hunts Fangires. It's okay for him to hate Kiva and all but at least kill the damn Fangire first...

When you can't even get a proper amnesia story told right, then you know you have problems.

The quality did slip with Fourze, but I still found myself enjoying it.

And right on the money with A to Z's placement.

Fourze slipped? I think Fourze was better than OOO. Much stronger character interactions, anyway. Perhaps some of the Zodiarts stories were kinda meandering in the middle, but I never really noticed it, like I did with OOO.

Agreed though about A to Z, it's a good movie, no matter what Den-O says. In fact, just ignore anything he says about W, he's probably wrong.

Um, yes, as I recall he only hijacks the powers once.

And Nago becomes really likeable later on. He was a complete douche at first, but he gets better.

Got it :lol

I had the same reaction. I was like "Dude...you need help" He does get better later on though...not like Kengo...ugh

I never quite got the buttons thing, either. But...Die for your hobby, I guess?

And I was about to pounce on you concerning Kengo, until I realized you were talking about the Kiva character, not the Fourze one of the same name :lol

:lol no, I like the one from Fourze.

I'm not sure when they told this, but Nago reported his father to the police after he had committed a crime. His father confronted Nago, Nago telling his father that he had to pay for his sin, and accidentally tore a button off of his father's shirt. Since then, it became a habit, probably due to the post-traumatic stress Nago probably endured after his father committed suicide.

This...does not surprise me at all.

And Nago becomes really likeable later on. He was a complete douche at first, but he gets better.[/QUOTE]

I'll take your word for it, then.


Who's that, someone who hasn't appeared yet? Or...someone I'm forgetting?

He hasn't appeared yet...or if he has, he's the guitarist guy.

Oh. That dude's important?! Huh...

I've been meaning to ask this for a while, but did they ever release an MP3 of the entire song Otoya plays in Kiva? It seems like every time in the show but once, when it started to get really good, they cut it off and I want to be able to listen to the whole thing.

So watched the W portion of W and Decade, it was cool to see Skull and since i saw it later i kept thinkin where the hell is Accel :lol

Okay, I know you hate Decade, but that is just factually incorrect.

As poorly done as the connection is on Decade's side, the Movie War 2010 is canon to both series, making that the finale rather than episode 31. Decade's portion of the movie has every alternate universe being restored, and everyone killed in the rider war restored to life. And then the movie ends with Deacde and co. going to a new alternate world.

He debuted in that movie. The scene happens after the credits.

.... I am so confused right now I don't have the vocabulary to express it.

Did you not read my post? I'm pretty sure I explained it quite well.

Kiva 18: Pretty decent all the way through. Kiva using the combined might of all three monsters...was not as cool as it should've been. And oh boy. As soon as Nago stopped paying attention to the Fangire and tried to kill Kiva, the Fangire attacked him. Who would've thought.

At least he got that damn button though.

I don't wanna spoil myself too much, but I skimmed through this. Glad to see he has a reason for his button obsession. I just thought it was a gag they were taking in a bizarre direction.

Kiva 19: Wh-what? Otoya took over Wateru's body? What?! Man, if THIS goes unexplained...

Missed it, how far back is it?

I know, right?

I...it does...and it really bothered me.

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So on W episode 35$ porobably gonna be my last one of the nught and then finish it tomorow. Dang work :lol but when i finish ill either start Fourze back................ or....... try watchin MLP :lol

Matrix...are we the Borg? It seems like we just keep assimilating other members...

No trust me ive had other people suggest mlp before yall :lol but yall didnt help :p

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Kiva 20: The part where Otoya conned Jiro and the coffee shop owner was hilarious.

Otoya referred to Kivat as the son of Kivat II? Interesting...


And...Nago is actually...capable of working with Wateru? Without resorting to doing something stupid? Amazing!

I was gonna give Kiva another go but everything I am reading in this thread is just so off putting.

Yeah, judging from what you said before on how you view shows, I'm pretty sure you won't like it.

I'm starting to agree...gonna have to find a new Rider show after Kuuga though somehow!

It is the most logical answer :lol

Kuuga 21: Since this was an MCS rip and most of the story elements were in Grongi I have no real clue what happened in this episode. Number Three started operating again, got told off but then was sent to fight Kuuga anyway..? Some metrosexual appeared flipping a coin and I think I was supposed to be shocked but I dunno who that guy is. And...yeah.

Don't let the haters dissuade you from Kiva. It's really a good show. Complaints about Wataru are greatly exaggerated since he's supposed to evolve from the shut in he begins the series as. The rider designs are great, the split time periods setting is really pretty innovative, and the show has a nice payoff every time the past and future meet.

Why? Kiva is an excellent show. It has some flaws in it (which every KR series has), but it is a great show with great designs, music, and characters.

I guess I'm inclined to agree.
I just personally found Kiva to be a bore once Otoya calmed down. Wataru really couldn't hold a show. I know his character arc was to grow from being the cowardly shut in, but that doesn't change that his character, as a whole, was just dull to watch.

Episode 22 of Kuuga was pretty bad. I mean yay Green Kuuga was used again, the best form! But pretty much nothing about the cliffhanger at the end of episode 21 had any purpose.

And was any of the stuff with the police really necessary in this episode if you're gonna depict them all with being about as good with a gun as I am? I know the police have always struggled in this series but they've given a proper story reason for it and they are learning and getting better. This episode just depicted them all as incompetent and useless.

Episode 23 at least provided an (extremely limited) sense of Godai facing up to how much he sucks, with the amount of people dying under his watch so far being in the thousands. But I have to ask, where the hell are the military?

This ache stuff is kinda rubbish as well, since when has he had aches outside of this episode? And are we really supposed to care about anything in relation to Godai any more after he died and came back to life like a quarter into his series?

The fighting was kinda fun tho since the enemies got weapons this time.