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Kamen Rider Lucha 01-28-2014 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 296920)
In the video, I mean.

I do remember the little thing they wrote up, the guy on youtube was kind enough to add it to the video description, but in the context of the subtitles? Never explained. Watching just the subs I'd have no idea why they randomly put an accent on the word. (which, btw, accents are NOT like "K" or "X" in combat or extreme. They actually change the way the word is pronounced)
It's an umlaut, not an accent mark. They're specifically referencing the Metal Umlaut, made famous by bands like Mötley Crüe. A Metal Umlaut doesn't change the pronunciation of a word, it's purely stylistic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_umlaut

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Also, changing the name of the driver? Doesn't really bug me. Hasn't so far. But would it really have been so controversial and awful to put (Sengoku = Warring) at the top of the screen? They've now changed a characters name. Again. Except rather than a moniker, it's his real name that he is always known by. They took what was already a stupid move in the show (having the drivers be named after him, thus in reality HE is named after the drivers because "Sengoku" was clearly thought up for the belts first) and slapped giant, glowing arrows pointing out exactly why it's so dumb.

And regardless of even that substancial reasoning, "Rouma Warring" sounds horrific. Again, they're translating shit they don't have to because... because I don't know why. To not be like TV-Nhion? Dudes the moment your sentences were properly structured and there wasn't distracting little animations on screen, you topped them. :lol They've just... they've done a dumb. They're incredibly intelligent, diligent, thoughtful, wonderful people doing an excellent service and made two really dumb mistakes that they've locked themselves into.
When it comes to the belt, I don't think the translation of Sengoku to Wärring is dumb in the slightest. In fact, I think it's really clever. Though, I do agree that Episode 15 is an instance where on-screen TL notes are preferable to the localization of a character's given name.

Kiryu 01-28-2014 07:35 PM
The whole sengoku-warring thing is weird sure but it doesn't bother me that much.

Though having your last name be Warring doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence does it?

SPLIT LIP 01-28-2014 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 296997)
It's an umlaut, not an accent mark. They're specifically referencing the Metal Umlaut, made famous by bands like Mötley Crüe. A Metal Umlaut doesn't change the pronunciation of a word, it's purely stylistic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_umlaut

The umlaut in Wärring Driver wouldn't change pronunciation anyway, as the vowel is already "weakly" pronounced.
So, they really didn't accomplish anything then, did they?

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 296997)
When it comes to the belt, I don't think the translation of Sengoku to Wärring is dumb in the slightest.
But apparently I do? Even though I said...

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Originally Posted by fatman
Also, changing the name of the driver? Doesn't really bug me.
...but I guess now I do?

Kamen Rider Lucha 01-28-2014 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SPLIT LIP (Post 297022)
So, they really didn't accomplish anything then, did they?
They accomplished... uh... style...? :lol

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But apparently I do? Even though I said...


...but I guess now I do?
My bad. Misinterpreted your statement. Thought you were referring to the belt as one of two dumb translation mistakes, and I thought you were saying because of that "mistake" they were "locked in" to localizing Ryouma's last name.

I actually thought I was mostly agreeing with you. ;)

Starscreamer 01-29-2014 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by baltmatrix (Post 296385)
So what I want to know is if someone uses one of the all purpose belts could we see a Strawberry rider?

Also, anyone else catch that Ryoma said that Takatora is a 'project director'. This tells me that there's someone much higher up than him and I'm guessing it's Sagara. Yes I think that the DJ is going to be the real villain of the series.
that I can totally believe...There is much more to the DJ than is shown...

I do like the flying bikes...and I was about to start troop building some Riot Troopers, but I'm really liking the Acorn brigade a bit more...

Kiryu 01-30-2014 03:47 PM
Y'know, I couldn't help but be distracted by how often they zoomed into Marika's legs this episode.

Den-O 01-30-2014 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiryu (Post 298166)
Y'know, I couldn't help but be distracted by how often they zoomed into Marika's legs this episode.
Even when they weren't zooming I was distracted by them. Absolutely beautiful and badass woman. Glad to see she doesn't look like the typical throwaway character they make female riders out to be.

Spirals 01-30-2014 04:42 PM
Something just came to me after re-watching the episode, but since the Sengoku Drivers that the Kurokage mooks use don't lock in with a person, what are the chances of Kaito stealing all belts that were on the Kurokages he stayed behind to fight?

Den-O 01-30-2014 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Spirals (Post 298195)
Something just came to me after re-watching the episode, but since the Sengoku Drivers that the Kurokage mooks use don't lock in with a person, what are the chances of Kaito stealing all belts that were on the Kurokages he stayed behind to fight?
Very possible. We know he escapes, and although he respects Kouta he recognized their alliance was only temporary. He could have seen this as an opportunity to get more riders on his team for future fights. And I think it's pretty clear that Knuckle will be one of his boys. Time will tell if he got more than one driver.

Spirals 01-30-2014 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 298246)
Very possible. We know he escapes, and although he respects Kouta he recognized their alliance was only temporary. He could have seen this as an opportunity to get more riders on his team for future fights. And I think it's pretty clear that Knuckle will be one of his boys. Time will tell if he got more than one driver.
Well, it'll explain all the Kurokages riding in the Watermelon arms in Kaito's Army in the prologue.


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