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Alternate colors and costumes of the current roster.

And not a single proper shiny Pokémon in sight.

Maybe that one's being petty (I would disagree...), but all around the palette swaps and alts just seem so horribly mishandled with this game. So many decisions or omissions don't make sense.

We have orange Pikachu and black Greninja, so we have shiny versions of those two.
No real excuse for Charizard, but...We have that? *Shrugs*

The Pikachus are in hats though... Would prefer a normal shiny, but yeah I guess I can't entirely discount it.

The Greninja doesn't actually look black to me. Just navy. And even then the tan should be black too and the tongue deep red not orange.

As a guy who mains Lucario, that remains my biggest disappointment...

But again: The Pokémon were just an example since I know them best. Others still don't make sense to me. Not-Dark Pit-black Pit. No Ms. Pac-Man. Patriotic (if you live in the US, which makes it weirder) Mario. Just... not handled well IMO.

I'm not saying the colors are amazing or anything, but some of them (Particularly Samus's, the Villager's, Shulk's, and even though his shiny isn't perfect, Greninja's color choices look nice as a whole, as well as the B&W Dedede and the helmetless Meta Knight-Kirby) are fairly nice.

I do agree that they definitely could have done better than what they chose for the colors of the cast, though (Particularly disappointed by the lack of a Mrs. Pac Man. Also, no Galacta Knight Meta Knight. Damn...)

I'm totally using the red Wii fit trainer.

The patriotic Mario is a reference to NES Open Tournament Golf, an old NES golf game where Mario wore that outfit. But yeah, that doesn't really make it any less strange of a choice.

I'm mostly okay with the rest of the alts though, I usually just use the default colors anyway. I do like that Meta Knight Kirby, but I find it weird that they made it an alt for Kirby and not Meta Knight himself. I also would have liked a Galacta Knight alt for him as well.

Well, it's just colors, so I'm not really all that sour, just kind of disappointed, I guess :lol

Oh well. A Dry Bowser could've been cool, too.

I want to ask if Luigi having only 7 colors is a error on the image maker's part or was made to only have 7 in order to make room for more programming.

Most likely reason is the one who made the image didn't catch the mistake.

*Gets popcorn ready for lack of Shiny Charizard*

I love Kirby's Meta Knight alt. :lol

and dem Cordelia and Tiki alts for Lucina~

It's not heartbreaking. Just disappointing.
What is heartbreaking is the leak that Meta Knight having the Galacta Knight alt was apparently a lie *Cries*

It probably is for a bunch of Charizard fans.

Galacta Knight is number 7. (Unless you meant not just colors.)

From how the leak went on, they made it sound like an honest to goodness alternate costume, not just his colors...

Yeah, the original "leak" implied Galacta and Deity were complete alts, but I fixed the statement shortly afterwards. It sucks.

Ah well. Ness and Falco are now 100% confirmed (but we already knew that) and Wolf is 100% deconfirmed.

Falco still has Landmaster. Ffs.

http://imgur.com/a/pDgmm#0

Was beaten to the punch at the Ness and Falco reveal. Damn. :lol

And yeah, that's why I was excited over the Galacta Knight thing...Oh well...

Watching this live stream:

http://www.twitch.tv/hamayama

He just had "New Challenger Approaching" for Dark Pit, but he lost. Dark Pit is a complete clone of Pit.

Currently watching the riveting spectacle of him constantly failing Home Run Challenges...

There's an Angry Bird-esque minigame where you throw bombs at targets. Is that news?

New Stage: Magicant from Mother

He got challenged by Dark Pit again, I took a screenshot:

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He lost... Again...

He fought him again! Took some more pics:

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He lost... For the third time...

Fourth time lucky:

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I'm happy about Falco, Ness, and Dark Pit. I am highly disappointed that the other forms of Mega Man weren't his alternate colors.

Nah, Dark Pit sucks. Not a single new move unless his Final Smash is different. Just lame.

Here's a new pic of the Pokemon level, Pokemon come and be hazards! Here's Reshiram who sets the stage on fire. I also saw Milotic but I didn't get a pic...

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EDIT:

Duck Hunt Dog Confirmed! Suprising no one, he died. I didn't get a pic...

Why does this forum not have a delete button?

Ah...I figured as much. It would have been cool to see.

He lost to Duck Hunt Dog again!

lol this streamer has to be the worst SSB player I've ever seen. It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad...

EDIT:

HE beat him!

But I got some pics. DHD looks awesome. The Duck attacks over his shoulder and carries him around flying. He also throws dynamite and summons NES guys to attack for him.

EDIT 2: He also lost to Mr. Game and Watch

EDIT 3: There's a new Final Boss! "Master Core"! He's a giant transforming Smash Ball

Squirtle is only a trophy :(

EDIT: Ganondorf is 100% still a Falcon clone. Double :(

>Dark Pit a clone
>Ganondorf indeed still a clone

Jesus fucking Christ they've lied so many times with this game.

Can't say I'm surprised by Dark Pit and Ganondorf as clones. Dark Pit shouldn't even be a character, but if he has to be included it would have been nice to at least differentiate him somewhat. As for Ganondorf, I want to say I'm disappointed but I didn't expect any significant changes in him in the first place, and if he sucks as bad as he did in Brawl I wouldn't use him anyway.

But on a more positive note, Duck Hunt Dog looks much more interesting than I'd originally thought when I first heard about him. I'm looking forward to trying him out.

Dark Pit's a clone... Not sure what i was expecting.

LEMMY KOOPA!!

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Also Jigglypuff confirmed!

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...And Dark Pit has a new Final Smash but I don't really care about him.

From what i hear DR Mario and Dark Pit aren't technically clones, they're gameplqy is how Mario and Pit played in previous games.

Well then i look forward to playing as the good doctor.

More Lemmy!

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Their Final Smash is SHADOW MARIO from Sunshine! (too awesome)!

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He paints a Big X across the screen that deals damage and blocks the screen.

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Here's Roy too:

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Roy confirmed!
And I'm impressed by just how sour some people are over Dark Pit.

He's a crap character that doesn't deserve his own slot. In a game as hyped as Smash Bros, especially when there's been heaps of cuts, that's not very tolerable. The Koopalings and Alph offer far more diverse looking characters and their not treated as separate characters.

The fact that Sakurai emphasised how "unique" each character would be doesn't help the situation either.

Dr. Mario has the Melee Down B "Dr Tornado", but either then that he's pretty much the same. He has the same Final Smash as Mario too, just aesthetically a little different. (Giant pills instead of giant fire balls)

Dark Pit is the exact same as this game's Pit outside of Final Smash. He has the new move-set that they thought giving Pit was necessary, rather then Pit's pre-Sakurai Brawl move-set.

Game & Watch and Jigglypuff confirmed?
I am happy~

The rest are meh (Though it is pretty cool that the rumors that Bowser Jr's alts are the Koopalings was true).

That's why I (And most others, really) are so sour over Dark Pit and Dr. Mario. Early in development, Sakurai was constantly spouting junk about "Smaller roster, less clones, more diversity" which turned out to be utter bullshit, it seems.

The streamers now have unlocked everyone on the ESRB leak and nobody new has come about.

MAYBE there's more, but I highly doubt it. The leaker noted that he hadn't unlocked anyone.. But Mii Fighters were not on his roster, so everyone assumed they replaced "random" when you were in Free Matches. This is not the case, it seems the character that wasn't there for the ESRB leak was Mii Fighter for whatever reason.

EDIT: Actually none of the streamers have unlocked ROB yet.

EDIT 2: One of the more competent streamers just got Ganondorf

-Same Attacks
-Same Taunts
-Same Stage Entrance
-Same Final Smash

...Ugh

I really want Snake to return, but I figured a 3rd party character who's as insanely popular as Snake would be an official reveal, so I doubt he's hidden somewhere in the game.

Concerning additional unlocks, Smash Bros always did have one or two characters that were unlocked by the most obtuse way possible (Like Mewtwo needing 20 hours played in Melee)

I almost forgot ROB existed, I never used him in Brawl. Was he rumored/confirmed to appear? If so I missed that somehow.

Yeah, Snake is definitely one of the cuts I'm most disappointed by. Not only is he a cool character, he had really unique gameplay completely unlike anyone else. Maybe if we're lucky he'll show up as DLC sometime down the line, although I'd prefer it if he were included in the core game.

I'm gonna miss my grenade spam. *Sniffles*
I do hope that, if DLC characters is an option, that Snake won't be forgotten.

Yep, he was in the ESRB leak. Currently there's two streamers running:

http://www.twitch.tv/yushako
He has unlocked everyone except Lucina, Wario and ROB

http://www.twitch.tv/gema_yue
He has unlocked everyone except Bowser Jr. and ROB

I'm most sad about Ivysaur and Ice Climbers. After Birdo was cut from MK7 I'm feeling really disillusioned with Nintendo games cutting my favourites.

I think Ike is a crap character that doesn't deserve his own slot, but I'm sure there are people out there who like him. Maybe he should have just been a costume, but let's not pretend that clones are stopping other more unique characters from being included.

As for cuts, who? Roy, who was replaced with somebody who brings more diversity and relevancy? Wolf, who was the second clone of a character? Lucas, who's a virtual unknown outside of Japan?

For all the talk of "bias" people are pretty upset that the roster hasn't been 100% created to suit their individual tastes.