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Well it was an alright show in the end, but I have to wonder why Go-Busters devoted the first episode to a robot confused by the world he lives in.
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Since I’m not sure whether tomorrow will be Kyoryu v Go-Bust or a more straight review of the Returns movie, I’ve got a brief guide to the non-Go-Busters characters in the former prepared, but I’m not going to post it right now.
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Here it be, quoted from my reviews at different phases in my brief career doing so regularly
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Shimoyama though! There's a guy who just doesn't miss! Honestly, I still just wish they'd let him make some kind of proper year-long show about ninjas, since, as Die's post about the premiere of the Kamen Rider Shinobi miniseries can attest, he seems like he'd do well with that theme. Although I suppose I shouldn't be too greedy when his work as the head writer of Go-Busters was already so great. The animal theme really let him show his reverence for the franchise's past with all the fantastic homages throughout. I'm sure it's hard for Die to appreciate the finer details since it's his first Sentai, but really, the greatest strength of Go-Busters is that it knew better than to try and reinvent the wheel. I'd have hated for them to try something different, only to have to retool the show midway when the new approach proved unpopular. You know, kinda like what I hear happened to that one Kobayashi show. I think it was Den-O? |
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ZYUDEN SENTAI KYORYUGER VS. GO-BUSTERS: DINOSAUR GREAT BATTLE! FAREWELL, ETERNAL FRIENDS
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/sen...rs/kyoryua.png Ha ha, oh man, could there be a movie less for me? I don’t mean that as a knock on the movie’s quality – although, uh, we’ll get to that – but this thing was a nostalgic look at the great dinosaur Sentai teams of the past, with an emphasis on how unbelievable cool dinosaurs are and always will be. Meanwhile, the person watching this in 2024 is someone who’s only watched one (apparently strongly off-model) Sentai series, and pretty much doesn’t care about dinosaurs and never has. (It’s incredibly funny to me that I came from watching two dozen bug-themed Rider shows, having not cared about bugs ever once in my life, and the last Sentai thing I’m going to watch for the year is a tribute to that franchise’s main aesthetic, which I also don’t care about.) I got some of the references, for whatever that’s worth – I can catch a Zyuranger or an Abaranger or Japanese Goldar, I live in the world. But none of it means anything to me, and it made me feel guilty trying to watch this thing. It’d be like watching a Rider film where (and forgive me if these actors don’t one-to-one match with the Legend Sentai) Joe Odagiri and Shigeki Hosokawa both showed up for a major plotline, but you’ve only ever watched Gaim, so it’s just two old guys that you assume matter a lot to other people. That’s huge! That would make grown fans weep, and I’m here like Man You Gotta Stop Saying “Dino Hope” Like It Explains Anything. Which, hey, “Dino Hope”. Hilarious to watch this movie a day after Doubutsu Sentai Go-Busters, because this weird plot of eternal dinosaurs imparting mystical Dino Charge – sorry, wrong version – Dino Hope to their teammates in order to defeat a space monster that really hates dinosaurs *motivation to be added later* is exactly the sort of heavily metaphorical magical-realism powered story that cracked me up yesterday in minute-long chunks. Don’t… don’t think that was the intended effect here, though. Pretty sure I was supposed to be moved by the power of dinosaur hope, and I definitely was more… not doing that. Was not feeling the Dino Hope, but I wish dino cheer on the other fans of this franchise for whom a whole mess of dino-themed heroes are a dream come true. It’s nice that this film tried to loop in the Go-Busters whole “buddy” thing to the proceedings, though, for fans coming in from the other side of this team-up. Those themes of partnership and dedication are one of the core components of the Go-Busters, so that being the lesson they pass down to the Kyoryugers was great. It would’ve been even more great if the movie featuring that lesson include more than two lines of dialogue from Nick, or included Gorisaki and Usada at all, but we take what we can get when we deal with Legend Hero status. (I like that this movie was so keen on having Jin back that they wholesale swiped the Final Live bit about Jin having a one-time-only way to reappear and help out the team. Just bring Jin back! He’s already shown up in every post-show piece of content, and I’m pretty sure he’s back for a cameo in that Ex-Aid-era Taisen film in a few years!) I honestly didn’t hate this thing, despite taking the piss out of it for the last few paragraphs. As team-up movies go, it seemed fairly coherent and at least paid lip-service to the returning characters’ vibe and story. But I was about 10% the intended audience for this thing, and I feel like my a) lack of knowledge about the history of Sentai, b) lack of interest in dinosaurs generally, c) lack of enjoyment in Samba Dinosaurs specifically, and d) lack of engagement with corny/emotional – you pick – storytelling that seems to treat cause and effect as two villain lieutenants it is sworn to defeat… all of that rendered me the anti-audience for this film. Not my thing, man. The stuff with J in the forest was great, though. Highlight of the film. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/sen...rs/kyoryub.png EDITED TO ADD: Oh, ha ha, the other thing I laughed pretty hard at was Gabutyra showing up at the beginning to tell King that his best friend was in danger, and King not figuring out it meant Modern Day Gabutyra until after it died... which means Gabutyra definitely thinks of King as its best friend, while King definitely didn't until it died. That is the meanest thing in a movie about the power of friendship!!! |
Loved seeing the first two dino teams, especially Yuuta Mochizuki, Kouichirou Nishi, and Sho Tomita after many years, but felt the Go-Busters were sidelined in return. A shame TTFC wasn't a thing yet at the time because the former dinosaur rangers appearing would've been more suited for that.
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Androzani84 also watched Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger vs Go-Busters. Dinosaur Great Battle! Farewell Eternal Friends!
Man, that’s a long title. Thankfully, the habit of giving these VS movies long titles didn’t last long. Anyway, I’m not sure if I mentioned this last time, but these VS movies are generally written by a supporting writer who worked on both shows, but if there isn’t one, then the head writer does it themselves. And that is very much the case here with Riku Sanjo, namely because he wrote every episode, movie and spin-off of Kyoryuger proper (one of three writers in Toku who can claim this much totality in writing a show, the other being Inoue with Faiz and Kobayashi with Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon. Takahashi wrote all the episodes for Ex-Aid and Geats, with Shogo Muto doing likewise for Build, but there were other writers for some movies and certain spin-offs). And the reason the three Dinosaur Sentai appear here is because a) Producer Ohmori thought it would be cool to do the team-up and b) they felt the summer movie would’ve been too short to accommodate it. But that’s not to say the Go-Busters are out of it, given that they save the day twice over by destroying Voldos’ machine and by providing Tategami Lioh as the mechanism to combine the powers of the three Robos (it would’ve been Go-Buster Ace, but Sanjo saw how that looked with the toys and changed his mind). We also get the cute nod with Yayoi filling in for Nakamura as Voldos arrives. Another few tidbits of BTS trivia include: Before Neo-Grifforzer and Neo-Gayrton (who as my review points out, should technically have been called either Neo-Jeanne or Neo-Asuka) were devised, the villain bringing the Vaglass and Deboss together was a never-before-mentioned daughter of Zyuranger’s main villain Witch Bandora (better known to western audiences as Rita Repulsa). All the non-red Zyurangers and Abarangers were voiced by their original VAs, wih the voice only thing being done because AbareYellow’s actor was taking a break from acting to focus on raising her children, but wanted to take part in something to celebrate Abaranger’s 10th anniversary. She went uncredited for similar reasons, which led to rumours that Yoko’s actress was doing the voice. The ToQger scene at the end where they fight Neo-Messiah was filmed at the same time as their first episode and ghost-directed by that episode’s director Shojiro Nakazawa, which is probably why it’s so divorced from the rest of the proceedings. And to close off, I’ll do something I didn’t get to do with my main review: sub the big insert they made specifically for the big fight. https://youtube.com/watch?v=utxl9F0kv5M Vamola Mucho, Rampaging claws, a hope transcending time. We are the Dinosaur Sentai, protecting Dino Hope. Gaburincho! The voice of lost souls Can you hear them? For the sake of lives engraved into time, Cross over time! Hoping that we'll meet again, Your faith in that is so clear to see. In search of a future overflowing with smiles, You continue to battle! Snapping together fangs, Rampage to the end. The legendary warriors. Let your Dino power shine, for the sake of the future! Vamola Mucho, rampaging claws, a hope transcending time. We are the Dinosaur Sentai, protecting Dino Hope. Gaburincho! To take the world back from the brink, There is a hope that spans the ages! The dynamic prehistoric memories Begin to awaken! Unleash your Dino Guts Undying Warriors of Eternity Combine your energy all into one And you'll have nothing to fear Snapping together fangs, Rampage to the end. The legendary warriors. A miracle like none ever seen before, giving you nothing to fear! Vamola Mucho, rampaging claws, a hope transcending time. We are the Dinosaur Sentai, protecting Dino Hope. Gaburincho! Hoping that we'll meet again, Your faith in that is so clear to see. In search of a future overflowing with smiles, You continue to battle! Snapping together fangs, Rampage to the end. The legendary warriors. Let your Dino power shine, for the sake of the future! Vamola Mucho, rampaging claws, a hope transcending time. We are the Dinosaur Sentai, protecting Dino Hope. Gaburincho! |
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I saw Go Busters on NTSC region 1 Brazil DVD.
I actually liked Go Busters. The cyber dimension aspect was good. I have a question however - Given that silver was an andriod in Beast Morphers was that the case in Go Busters? |
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Indeed, animal themes go all the way back to the fifth series, Sun Vulcan, whereas when the Zyurangers rocked up to the party 16 shows in, the dinosaur idea was no less fresh and radical than that show's strong fantasy leanings, which contrasted the more sci-fi stylings of the franchise up to that point. One might even argue that Zyuranger was at least as atypical a Sentai in its own time as Go-Busters was in 2012! I don't know if that person would actually be me or not though. I'm mostly just saying all this because I feel an important part of these sorts of Legend ____ guest spots is to get young whippersnappers like Die more curious about those older shows. Not that it worked too well on him, in this case, of course! ("Doesn't care about dinosaurs" is actually new information to me. Heck, maybe you'd really enjoy Zyuranger then. After all, only 2 out of 5 of them are technically proper dinosaurs!):p Anyway, I would've originally watched this movie after having seen (and quite liked) Kyoryuger, since the home release would've been after ToQger started, but I definitely recall being significantly more interested in getting more Go-Busters action. Much like I had heard so much talk of the show getting a "retool" I'm still not sure ever actually happened beyond a new opening, I was going into the movie dreading the apparent reduced focus of the team I cared most about in favor of more dino guys than I was asking for. Granted, there's always the possibility it's specifically *because* people set my expectations lower, but I recall being quite satisfied with it as both a Go-Busters thing and as an entertainingly wild dino thing, even if those two things didn't necessarily feel like they needed to be together in the way a crossover ideally works. That's all based on memory though, because it's been a good while since I properly sat down and watched this one. The thought did occur to me that I did rewatch it like 8 years ago and wrote a thing about it though, so maybe I'll just let past me take this one: Quote:
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I hope we can still be friends after I just exposed your lack of Sentai knowledge to the world. |
TOKUMEI SENTAI GO-BUSTERS - THREAD WRAP-UP
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/sen...rs/threada.png And that’s it for “Kamen Rider Die watches Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters”! Thanks so much to everyone who popped in to chat about this one. I enjoyed trying out a Sentai series, even if I have to confess that it didn’t get its hooks into me as a franchise. I liked Go-Busters, but it wasn’t the same all-encompassing thrill I get out of any given Kamen Rider show. Enjoyable action-adventure plots and some very funny conceptual episodes, but I didn’t feel like it got weird enough or changed shape enough for me to feel like Sentai was the missing piece of my toku fandom. All of that is another way of saying that while I’ll probably watch other Sentai shows in my life, I don’t know if I feel like it does them or me any favors to write about them. I never really felt like I dug into this show in a way that illuminated its depths or enunciated its strengths, and I don’t honestly know if that’s my failings as an amateur critic or merely a general disengagement with the vibe. Watching something like (name at random) King-Ohger is probably better off for me to relax with some month in the future, rather than make the focal point of a seasonal writing project. I don’t know. We’ll see. In the meantime, I’m off for the next couple months, with a planned return in January for “Kamen Rider Die rewatches Kamen Rider OOO”, my second Kobayashi show in a twelve-month window. Looking forward to that one, even if my experience with W has me fearing that I’ll come away liking it less than the rose-colored compound eyes of my memory have kept it over the past few years. Again, we’ll see! As always, this thread remains yours to add to if you feel like. You were my Buddies on this project for the last few months, and I couldn’t’ve done it without you. The Special Buster was always our friendship! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/sen...rs/threadb.png |
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No rush though. I was already glad enough just to see you giving Go-Busters a shot. People in fandoms for big franchises like this like to make a lot of noise about "correct" points of entry, but really, I think the most important thing in that situation is just to understand that each show or movie or whatever is ultimately just that one unique show or movie or whatever. Go-Busters is probably more "normal" than it's often made out to be, for what it's worth, but in my mind, the real question isn't whether you feel you might enjoy more Super Sentai now; it's just whether or not you enjoyed Go-Busters. Anything else can and will come after that. "Whatever sounds interesting to you probably will be" is my stock advice when people ask for recommendations on stuff, so I'm happy you just went for a season that had a vibe that appealed from a distance. I'm even more happy you actually did enjoy yourself throughout. I'm also happy I was actually there for it, for the first time in a bit! As I've already mentioned, I don't feel much more confident in my ability to discuss this show than you apparently do, but hopefully I had something to add somewhere in there that was at least a little interesting. I'm not sure if I'll actually be around for all of OOO or not, but then, if you somehow manage to start convincing yourself that show is any less great than you remember -- when it's obviously greater -- I might feel obligated to step in. :p Either way, thanks for another couple months of talking about toku, Die! It was fun! |
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But at the same time, I feel like a first series -- like it or not -- sort of has to at least spark something in you, or maybe the franchise isn't for you. Ex-Aid blew my mind, and every single Rider show afterward had something that affected me deeply. With Go-Busters, it was nice to watch, and I liked it, but it didn't spark anything in me. And yet I'm here talking about watching other shows, so, hell, maybe it at least tilled a field in my brain where other Sentai shows can now be planted. We'll see etc etc |
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And I mean, for you and Super Sentai specifically? When Donbrothers is definitely on that path somewhere? You might just find that spark before you know it! |
Random note to end on, but I’m guessing that this thread won’t really be revisited, given that of the show’s 13-strong regulars, one’s dead (Nick), one’s winding down his activities due to health reasons (Gorisaki), one’s torpedoed his reputation through cheating on his wife (Usada), one’s hit it big (Nakamura) and ones serving jail time for sexual assault (Kuroki). So in other words, while the reainder could return if there’s an opening to do so (so far, only Escape has reappeared, in a Kyuranger movie, where she wasn’t even the most focused on of a group of returning villains), a reunion is unlikely. At most, the 4 mains have expressed interest in voicing their counterparts in a hypothetical Japanese dub of Power Rangers Beast Morphers (personally, while I think the main three would fit their counterparts decently well enough, the thought of Hiroya Matsumoto’s baritone coming out of the unassuming guy playing his counterpart would be… interesting)
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I'm glad you enjoyed Gobusters anyway, even if you didn't enjoy it in the same way you enjoy Rider. It's my 11th favorite Heisei Sentai out of 29 that I've watched so far and I hope that, despite all the cast problems Androzani just mentioned, maybe Gobusters can still get a minimalistic 20th anniversary special with at least the main cast who are willing and able to return. |
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Just dropping in to say that, even now a decade on, GoBusters Returns feat the Dobutsu Sentai is still one of my favourite Sentai things. Presenting a more "Normal" series in snapshot clipshow form, the rise and fall of Atsushi, the general vibe of the Dobutsu universe, Nick and Beet J Stag, and God-who-looks-suspiciously-like-Enter. It's just really good, ya know?
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