Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 327847)

Thinking about it, Sun Vulcan, Megaranger, Dekaranger, Kyoryuger, Gekiranger, Gokaiger, Go-Busters, etc etc.
I've never had a Sentai series grab me with the first episode...

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 327698)

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If I was to have any complaints...that first Gokai Change was...amazingly lame. I guess for diehards of sentai it would have been an epic moment, but for someone who has no connection all I saw was extremely dated suits and a pretty craptacular power set and finishing move, I mean really, a bin truck? The rest of the changes were with teams I was more familiar with, and are more modern so it was a lot better then for me, but still.

Originally Posted by VictoriousImagin (Post 327857)

Well, a garbage truck. The thing with the Goranger Hurricane is that it transforms into the very thing that the enemy fears. It's more funny if you knew that the name of the Gormins (ゴーミン) are written similarly to trash (ゴミ).

Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 327855)

Gekiranger specifically is an amazing show, but the first couple episodes are pretty much garbage :lol

Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 327862)

Only, like, the first 2.

Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 327863)

I'd disagree. The show doesn't really get going until at least episode 5. And truly takes off around 9 when Braco is defeated.

Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 327863)

I'd disagree. The show doesn't really get going until at least episode 5. And truly takes off around 9 when Braco is defeated.

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 327865)

I'm gonna need to give that show a second shot one day.

Originally Posted by VictoriousImagin (Post 327857)

Well, a garbage truck. The thing with the Goranger Hurricane is that it transforms into the very thing that the enemy fears. It's more funny if you knew that the name of the Gormins (ゴーミン) are written similarly to trash (ゴミ).

Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lucha (Post 327865)

I'm gonna need to give that show a second shot one day.

Originally Posted by Battlizer (Post 327883)

I need to finish Gokaiger once I get the rest of the episodes. also people here seem to shit talk Gavan a lot, so should I just avoid the Gavan crossover flick?

Originally Posted by Den-O (Post 327885)

The Gavan movie isn't amazing, but is enjoyable. I loved the Go-Busters crossover 2-parter though.

Originally Posted by Battlizer (Post 327883)

I need to finish Gokaiger once I get the rest of the episodes. also people here seem to shit talk Gavan a lot, so should I just avoid the Gavan crossover flick?

Originally Posted by VictoriousImagin (Post 327903)

The problem with the Gavan movie was that it felt... too safe. Like, they were writing a story that was basic (and it sometimes forgot which genre it wanted to be), and not exactly a GAVAN movie. Also, that movie needed more Kenji Ohba. It instantly got 1000x better when he appeared.

Originally Posted by Switchblade (Post 327909)

The Gokaiger one? No, that's a lot of fun and totally worth watching. Anything with the modern Gavan is a total write-off, though.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 327864)

Gokaiger 02.

It's pretty awesome that a show completely ground in Sentai lore is so unconventional. I really like how different the Gokaigers they feel from other teams right now. It isn't like they're bad people, but it makes a nice change of pace to not have every Ranger screaming 'truth, justice, friendship, green peace and the American Way!' over and over again, they're just a bunch of dudes who don't like bullies.

And maybe that wouldn't usually work for a team of heroes, but as they're never set up to be heroes in the first place, it works really well in context. Plus this cast are INTENSE. Like they're the first sentai team who I see line up and think to myself 'Oh you're in for it now', almost feeling sorry for the villains. Haha. They just have a great dynamic.

Other than that, the production values are pretty great as well so far. I can't believe how brutal the Zangyack empire are. Am I really watching sentai? Plus, although not "good" CGI, it certainly adds a lot of life to the mech portion. It still isn't great, but it's more bearable than most.

My favourite Gokai Change this episode was Hurricanger, that Shadow Dance group attack was awesomely stylish. The all red one was cool too, although this show is a little obsessed with Shinkenger (I know it was huge in Japan but still). The DekaRanger change was kinda lame though, felt like they were just padding at that point.

Originally Posted by Battlizer (Post 327883)

I need to finish Gokaiger once I get the rest of the episodes. also people here seem to shit talk Gavan a lot, so should I just avoid the Gavan crossover flick?



You should. It's gets pretty awesome. And speaking of which...

Gekiranger 19-21

Holy shit, 19 got intense. The Gekirangers first utter defeat by Rio, who's mastered all of Hawk's and Jellyfish's teachings. And man was that a beatdown. Miki literally had to smack some sense into the three of them after they were down and about to give up.

Also got a little more background on Retsu's brother. Not much aside form Rio mentioning that he defeated him before, which definitely pissed off Retsu. Very sort of Dragonball-esque promise Shafu made to Rio with him essentially saying, "These three have untapped potential to become more powerful in x amount of time, wouldn't you rather face them once they're stronger?"

And they definitely got stronger with the introduction of the last three Kensei, Gorilla, Penguin, and Gazelle. I think Gazelle might be my favorite one out of all of 'em. I mean he says he just goes around beating poachers up with his fists? That has to be pretty surreal for the poachers though...

I liked how the Gekirangers had to learn their weaknesses (which were the others strong suits) though Jan didn't really learn his lesson until 21. And Retsu's fight against Gazelle was pretty awesome. I didn't expect it to go on for as long as it did. He got the shit kicked out of him, but he managed to pull it off.

The Kageki mode is pretty cool and Jan managing to beat the mess outta Rio was pretty pretty badass. This is the most serious Jan's ever really been. I mean he didn't really tend to goof off when shit went down, but he got pissed at the end of 19 which continued on until 21 until he learned started to get with the team spirit again. Interesting to see him get pissed enough to fight briefly with Retsu. They usually get along well enough.

It was pretty dickish of Hawk and Jellyfish to say..."We'll destroy the city if the Gekirangers lose..." and then they attacked it a bit anyway. I was pretty surprised they showed the scene where the kids mom got crushed by rubble and appeared dead when her son tried to wake her up. Rin Jyuken is evil as shit. Rio even refers to the people of the city as 'humans' like he's no longer one himself.

Also we get new Geki Beasts this episode. Weird that they can 'pilot' these beasts individually, but haven't done so yet with the Gekibeasts their suits are based on. And we get a new mech, GekiFire.....eh. I don't really like it as much as Geki Touja honestly. But the rest of the episodes? Pretty awesome.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328016)

There were some other things that kinda sucked though. Firstly, aren't all the Rangers dead? So what is Kai doing here?

Originally Posted by ElConvoy (Post 328030)

They just lost their Powers but are still alive :)

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328016)

There were some other things that kinda sucked though. Firstly, aren't all the Rangers dead? So what is Kai doing here? And why does Kai look like a Jedi? And while we're at it, the MagiDragon was just inside their boat this whole time without them realising? EH?! And considering they just got a giant robot dragon, their new finisher SUCKED. What happened to that awesome cannon rocket assault from last week? Is that really less effective then a few magic rings?

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328052)

Okay so I need to check out those two movies then? Where does the 199 heroes one come in?

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328016)

Gokaiger 3.

Wow Super Megaforce, visually, is like a shot for shot remake of this. It looks at times, like they literally edited the Rangers into Gokaiger footage. While we're on that topic, I kinda wish Nick got a chance to cameo, as they could have done some really interesting things with this episode, given that MagiRanger and Mystic Force approach magic very differently. I wonder what kind of tests Nick would create? And it woulda worked really well too, given Noah is defined by being constantly unsure of his own abilities, he and Nick could relate a lot.

I'm also really surprised they didn't use that Black Gokai change for Megaforce. Sure no one likes Alien Rangers, but that is one of Tommy's suits and a girl version of one of the RPM Rangers. Seems a better change to use than all of the fucking sentai only teams they used. I mean I know they transformed, but we never saw the fight.

Speaking specifically of this show, the White Change was pretty great, as Big One is probably the only sentai hero to actually look like a proper superhero. That suit is awesome. Is JAKQ subbed? I don't care much for MagiRanger but knowing how different these characters are, to who they change into, was fun in a meta sort of way.

There were some other things that kinda sucked though. Firstly, aren't all the Rangers dead? So what is Kai doing here? And why does Kai look like a Jedi? And while we're at it, the MagiDragon was just inside their boat this whole time without them realising? EH?! And considering they just got a giant robot dragon, their new finisher SUCKED. What happened to that awesome cannon rocket assault from last week? Is that really less effective then a few magic rings?

Originally Posted by MidoGreen (Post 328107)

Much knowledge young Ozu has gained. No longer the student he is :lol.

Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga (Post 328061)

They're the same movie, it just has a ridiculously long name like Kaizoku Sentai Gokaiger VS Goseiger: 199 Great Hero Battle so it gets abbreviated as either Gokaiger VS Goseiger or 199 Hero.

Originally Posted by Thessair (Post 327884)

That movie is worth it for all the Kenji Ohba alone. :lol

Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen (Post 328303)

He's also totally awesome in Battle Fever J but I don't recommend that unless you are crazy and can handle bad video quality.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328314)

Gokaiger 4.

From a storytelling perspective, it makes sense to do it the "normal" way and have the audience and the heroes all start at the same place but honestly for my personal tastes I really love that the Gokaiger are already an established bunch of characters, and the audience has to catch up with them. It just makes the plot beats feel that much more believable and makes the show feel more thoughtout.

Although I am a little disappointed that we only ever got hints about Joe this episode though, and no actual visual flashbacks. I mean I know we only got hints about Marvelous too, but that scene of him AkaRed surrounded by fire was really awesome.

That said, as a pure cock tease, this episode did its job. I am interested to learn who Joe's master was, considering that he flipped the fuck out after his master was shit talked. I mean that was really his first emotions in the show, up 'til this point, he'd just stood around smirking and trying to be cool. I mean he REALLY lost his composure.

As I've said I just love this team, they have a great dynamic, and they feel so unique from the other teams I have watched for great effect. Especially after coming off the back of Gaoranger, with a team so bound in sentai cliché that their team just didn't work at all. It's the little things, like how Marvelous let the kid use a Gokai Change because it may have been harsh, even dangerous, but it was also the best way to get the point across. And like in this episode, everyone let Joe have his way, they didn't need to soapbox him about teamwork, friendship and all the rest. Minus Ahim, the Gokaiger's realise that teamwork isn't about wiping one another's arse. You just wouldn't normally see this in sentai, which usually tries its hardest to be as safe and politically correct as possible.

One again, some great action. Aw yeah Jungle Fury! I mean Gekiranger... Joe's five sword style was just pure insanity, especially that Final Wave, holy shit.

That said, what is with the suit actors in this show? Ahim's like a third of Luka's size when they transform, from all the other scenes they look the same height. Honestly Ahim's suit actress is so small, she looks like a dwarf or small child, it's just really distracting. I get that they'll be height discrepancies in an adaptation but these fights were made for this show specifically, so was it that hard to get the heights right?

Originally Posted by SideswipePrime (Post 328317)

I don't remember GokaiPink being that short...

You find out who Joe's master is later, with flashbacks, so don't worry...they don't drop that plot point.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328314)

That said, what is with the suit actors in this show? Ahim's like a third of Luka's size when they transform, from all the other scenes they look the same height. Honestly Ahim's suit actress is so small, she looks like a dwarf or small child, it's just really distracting. I get that they'll be height discrepancies in an adaptation but these fights were made for this show specifically, so was it that hard to get the heights right?

Originally Posted by Don Dogoier (Post 328326)

The suit actors for Ahim and Luka are the same from Goseiger but Hachisuka Yuichi who was Gosei Pink is now Gokai Yellow and Mizuho Nogawa who was Gosei Yellow is now Gokai Pink. The actress for Ahim and Nogawa has similar height (Ahim actress being 5'1 and Nogawa being 5'2) while the actress for Luka is around 4' shorter than Yuichi who is around 5'5

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328327)

It's ridiculously noticeable, why not have height limits during casting?

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328305)

A show even you didn't like?!

Originally Posted by KyoryuGreen (Post 328339)

To be far I think Dairanger was horrible. Love the characters but story ends shitty.

Originally Posted by Locke (Post 328327)

It's ridiculously noticeable, why not have height limits during casting?

Originally Posted by Starscream Gaga (Post 328349)

But from Don's measurements, Gokai Pink's pretty perfect (in fact Gokai Pink is taller then Ahim) and Gokai Yellow isn't awfully off. Its not quite Hyde to Gosei Blue, which bothered me in nearly every scene early on.