So, not a dude who's very dialed-in to that fandom, but I'd probably recommend the original Marvel comics. The thing about GI Joe is, it's basically a mix of superheroes and soldiers? All of the GI Joe stuff was designed by Marvel creators. (A lot of it was pinched from an unused SHIELD series!) The codenames, the special skills, the colorful costumes: that shit's all superhero stuff. Assuming you're someone who likes a mix of soap opera, action, colorful designs, and a lighter sense of danger (aka a toku fan), I think the Marvel comics could be fun.

The huge caveats are a) I read those as a kid and can't vouch for their quality to an adult, b) I'm not a big Joe guy so I can't speak with any deep knowledge, c) I'm not even saying it's a worthwhile franchise to dive into.

Maybe some other members who are more invested in Joe can give a recommendation?

I always find it stupid and funny that you will have people that will be like "Being Dark, Gritty and Edgy is overrated. Stuff that is kiddish and stupid can be just as smart and mature" and yet they will be like "We need an R rated Power Rangers".

If you want an R rated Power Rangers, you could watch Gantz instead. If you want an R rated G.I Joe, you can always watch something like Jarhead instead. Somethings are better off being only for kids. Same with stuff aim towards adults.

Does anybody have a Master Grade and a Hot Toys (preferably Iron Man)? I wanna know how they scale. I always assumed Hot Toys are the same size as a general Master Grade, but Hot Toys does seem to be taller.


I'm the first part, but I do not want an R rated Power Rangers. That Adi Shankar short film, even though it was meant to parody the idea of companies making darker and edgier reboot, is an example of how not to do darker reboot.

Power Rangers needs to stay as a kids show, but I don'y want them to be exclusive to kids, but appealing to all ages, like Avatar, Clone Wars and even Young Justice (except season 3 bevause that is clearly R-rated).

I would say I want it to be like the CW Arrowverse, but then I remembered I dropped the Arrowverse due to them being too soap opera.

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Posting Doctor MindBender because this feels like the right time to do so

Personally I grew up with the Sunbow animated G.I.Joe show so I will recommend that. The big battles are always great because they are just huge laser tag battles. :lolol

"When will we get a gritty, realistic take on the shirtless/monocled/caped/brainwasher/former orthodontist," cries the always-dismayed adult Joe fandom.

What does said subsect of the G.I.Joe fandom think of the IDW comics? Cause those seem like the thing that would satisfy their preferences, and as much as I love the Sunbow and Dic cartoons for all its goofyness, I am also a fan of those comics.

From an outside observer's perspective, they are characteristically unhappy.

If a series tries to be inclusive or progressive there's a backlash, which is what's happening with the current GI Joe comic. (HissTank chased Paul Allor off the boards! The guy who writes the GI Joe comic was made to feel unwelcome on a GI Joe fan forum!)

However, they also don't care much for the current ARAH run, which is written by the guy who wrote all of the classic comics. They think it's gotten too goofy and unrealistic, which, amazing to me!

Literally the only IDW thing I've ever seen that fanbase appreciate is the (generally well-regarded even outside the fandom!) Mike Costa stuff, specifically his Chuckles stories. Everything else just bugs them.

I think it's a mix of wanting an unapologetically might-makes-right military adventure series that would have an incredibly narrow audience in 2020, so media companies ain't exactly bending over backwards to accommodate them; and an inability to realize how much their nostalgia means that they're trying to recapture a specific childhood experience that is gone forever.

It's sad! I'm honestly sad for them as fans! They're a dwindling audience clinging to an unpopular franchise, and yet every attempt by Hasbro (or IDW) to grow the fanbase with new ideas is greeted with hostility. Some of them got real real mad at Hasbro making new Joe figures because the designs were modern and the figures were in a more popular scale! NEW FIGURES made them yell at each other! Exclamation marks!!!

Hell I'd argue that Fortnite is based in no small part on G.I. Joe. One outfit is Legally Distinct Firefly for crying out loud.

But yeah, when you have a franchise that's built on equal parts reasonably authentic military hardware and stuff like the friggin' Trouble Bubble, you can't complain when it decides to bring in some goofy and absurd stuff. Like my personal favorite, the Toxo Zombie.

And also Roddy Piper is Destro's cousin and Iron Grenadier drill instructor.

That's something that kind of bugged me as I was on my way out the door years ago. People started turning their noses up at the franchise and became less Joe fans and more "1/12 scale enthusiasts" obsessed with recreating stuff at the scale- that they used Joes was just a matter of convenience.

Depends on how you like your drama/goofy ratio. I started in the Joe vs. Cobra era in the early 2000s so the SpyTroops and Valor vs. Venom movies are where I started. There's also Renegades if you're looking for a completely different interpretation of the setup- Basically The A-Team vs. OCP. And of course the original Marvel run under Larry Hama are considered holy scripture- for good reason. They're well-written, hold up alarmingly well, and Hama himself penned the filecards for most of the characters through the height of the line.

Mind Bender is minor league. You want the good stuff? Try Raptor.

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He's Cobra's chief accountant.

I am starting to teach myself touch typing; a muscle memory that will allow me to type without looking at the keyboard. So far plenty of mistakes but we have to start somewhere right?