Yeah to be fair I was pretty unimpressed with my first Figuart back when, anyone remember the Marvel Legends toys? Figuarts are practically the same concept, only not actually as well made (since you could actually play with the Legends) going for collectors prices.

I know Legends didn't come with all the hands and accessories and stuff but with all the hype the actual build quality of most Figuarts isn't actually that much better than any other figure.

You have to remember that, before Figuarts were first released, your options for Kamen Rider figures were:
The scarce and unreliably scaled Souchaku Henshin, the 12 inch and incredibly expensive Project BM figures, or the small vinyl figures.

There may have been others, but those 3 were pretty much it before Figuarts.

I don't consider Marvel Legends all that well made. Their necks were very distracting and took away from the character. Mattel did a great job with DC Universe Classics (well, most of it), but I still think Figuarts are vastly superior. I guess if you are referring to drop testing them, then yes, Marvel Legends would be fine compared to Figuarts, but I don't drop test my figures. I did that as a kid and now wish I hadn't.

His issues carry over to Blue and Yellow as well. But in all honesty? At the rock bottom prices Red Buster is sitting happily at he's worth every penny.
Well there was Souchaku Henshin which evolved into this line. I mean sure some figures have there issues but aren't you expecting a little too much? Yes they're collector oriented but what figure can perfectly replicate 100% of it's show likeness and be even mildly affordable?

These things are very nice for their scale and price. I keep it in mind when I'm buying them that they are just toys not the people in suits they represent. And I don't buy SHF's based on the pictures on the box so if it's doing something crazy on there I don't really care :lol

Hardly. I didn't even mention how inaccurate to the design Sieg is.

The problems I have are easily fixable problems that don't exist in other figures. Limited hands count, joint tolerances, stuff that I know isn't that hard to fix.

Maybe I'm just spoiled by the SICs which may cost more, but are damn near perfect.

Now you're speaking in oxymoron's. How is a SIC perfect when the very purpose of that line is taking liberties with the characters design and going in a different direction? They aren't even in the vicinity of accurate. And what "other figures" are those problems you mentioned easily fixable in? Again I said affordable and 100% accurate. You want to pay hundreds of dollars for Project BM's or RAH's that break when you breathe on them then be my guest. But you almost have to expect a certain degree of compromise on the 6" figure scale.

Literally ANY toyline has problems with joint tolerances and QC problems at some point. Any production run of anything will inevitably have issues, it's just the nature of mass production. I can't help that your basing your opinion on the only 2 older releases you've had the chance to handle rather than looking at the line as a whole. Seriously you're expecting too much out of these things for their price and scale.

I agree with all of this.

Earlier SIC's were awful, prone to breaking and falling apart at the slightest touch. I've only had a few QC issues with my Figuarts, most of which were paint problems and I own 70 of the damn things. I really don't know how you could complain about the quality or level of detail that goes into them, even most of the earlier ones, while a little rougher, are still pretty amazing.

Even now-a-days, while some Figuarts do have little problem, it doesn't ruin the entire figure. Even releases that weren't as popular, like Red Buster and the OOO releases, are still really good toys despite their set-backs.

Like others have said, dumping on a whole line based on two of its first releases while also saying that SIC, which started with poor QC and fragility, is a perfect line shows you need way more experience handling figures from both lines, both older and newer releases, before making a hard conclusion. Both have pros and cons.

Definitely agree on Red Buster. The only reason I even own it is because I got it so cheap. The shipping cost me more than the figure. xD

All kinds of agree.

I think you need to look up what an oxymoron is, because I don't think it means what you think it does.

Also when I compared it to SICs I was only comparing just in quality and articulation. Obviously I wasn't comparring accuracy, that'd be silly.

I do, which is explicitly why I only brought up the inaccuracies that don't make sense.

How is that my fault when all everybody talks about is how amazing Figuarts are, and when I get the two of my favourite charatcers, expecting these great representations, I get one with a nowhere near close headsculpt and squeaky joints that feel like they're going to twist off, and one who's legs constantly fall off.

I'm just expecting my dissapointement because two pieces I was super excited for turned out to be (in the case of W more than Sieg) toys I'm never going to touch. It really sucks when you basically flush $30 down the toilet because the toy doesn't even achieve the basics of being a toy.

Also, if you had actually read the majority of what I've said instead of jumping to rash assumptions of what I think, then you'd know that I'm not basing my opinion of the line overall off of the two I own. In fact I've explicitly stated my next Figuarts purchase is going to be Ryuki, since it's a newer release that's more likely to accurately represent the line so I'm told. (even though I don't know anythign of Ryuki)

Expecting them to work is too much?

But Den-O and onwards they're excellent. Plus the line is older than Figuarts and, IIRC, the Den-O SIC's came out back in 2007, and I don't think Figuarts even dates back quite that far? Though I may be mistaken.

Because there's problems with them. Problems other toys at the same size and price don't have.

Because, you know, I totally said I was giving up on the line forever and never going to buy another OH WAIT.

Typical internet mentality. I simply state that I'm unsatisfied with the two figures I won and that it doesn't make enthusiastic for the line overall, even though I say I'm still going to collect it, and I get dog-piled by people saying "you can't judge a line by two figures." Jeez, it's the "the show gets better after twenty episodes" arguement reborn.

And I even said over and over I like Sieg a lot, but I guess that doesn't count?

Well, to be fair, a lot of the early SICs were trash. Very much "Display, don't touch" having articulation but poor stability and even worse construction.
I'm not sure when Figuarts date back (I think '08? Maybe '09?), but SIC has had more time to make and perfect their figures.

But, aren't they both made by Bandai?

Also, if you wanted to be absolutely fair, early SIC construction is fairly imfamous, yet Figuarts have supposedly been awesome all along.

I've read everything you said, absolutely all of it. But your statements are based on outdated facts. You own 2 poorly made figures from a point in the line where standards weren't as high and you act as though it's a bad line that doesn't deserve the fanfare it gets. So yes expecting them to "work" perfectly is expecting too much. You can say you'll buy a new figure and I welcome you to do so. But just based on the facts your giving us you have standards that are way to high for this type of figure. Ryuki and all of his derivatives are excellent though.

And while SIC figures are nice but they also have QC issues and design flaws. Just like any other toyline. Like the wings on my SIC TaJaDor that won't stay plugged in at all. OR the loose ankles on SIC TaToBa that make it completely necessary for him to use a tamashii stage. And those are new releases. Look at SIC's from 5 or 6 years ago and you see a significant quality drop. SIC isn't perfect either man. Take the good and the bad, every figure can't possibly be just as good as every other figure.

No. That's why the introduced new hips several years ago, and new shoulders for better or worse recently for certain figures. SHF's have evolved as well. They're definitely better than when they started. But when they started they were literally the best thing going for 6" scale riders. That's why they did so well. The high sales at that time when people were fine with the quality is what drove the line to be the powerhouse that it is today.

Not even close.

I'm just saying how it felt to me that when I got into this line, hearing all these great things about it, and the first figure I got was meh and the second figure I got has weird quality issues. I never said it doesn't deserve the praise it gets, just that it stinks that I happen to get the worst figures of the line first. You and everyone else have completely overblown the simplest of reactions into, what, that I'm trying to, like, slander Figaurts' good name or something?

This is outrageous. Expecting the figure to not fall apart in my hands is too much?

So I should just be happy that I wasted $30 on CycloneJoker?

Okay, that has nothing to do with anything I said though.

Again, look at what has actually happened here. I said I was dissapointed in the figures I got. I never said anything about Figuarts as a whole, only referenced their popularity. Not once did I ever say, ever even come so close as to imply, that the line overall was somehow underserving. I merely lamented that the figures I own were not good compared to what I've heard, and every single person has agreed with me on that. So I'm not even sure what you're talking about or what the problem even is. I'm not saying Figuarts is bad overall, I never even implied that, and if you think I did, well sorry but you are wrong.

I still don't see what you didn't like about him. I remember your initial reaction when getting it. My only real complaint is that the seams on the knee joints could be smoother.

It's the joints, man. If they hadn't gotten so bad I'd probably still be okay with him. I've barely handled him, too. In the one day I've own Sieg I've likely posed him more than W and yet W's joints are loosening and squeaking more and more.

That's a shame. I guess that was just bad luck then. The only real figuarts QC issue I've had is SaGoZo's right arm being loose.

That's why Sieg's legs bug me. If they're loose and like to fall off now, what happens as time goes on?

Pose him on his hands and call it a variant.

Quick question, did you order him on Mandarake possibly? Was hi box already open? That may explain some of the issues with the leg. I know you can use shock oil to loosen joints, but to tighten them I believe a clear coat of nail polish on the ball of the joint may work.

Or Future Floor Finish.

"But you ain't got no legs Lt. Sieg!"

I got him off Mandarake, but the box was sealed. I know how to tighten joints, I do it often, but I'm afriad because they fall off so easily but aren't loosey-goosey, they'll just pop off is I make the ball joint too big.

:lol

Aside from Momotaros and Urataros I've found that all of my Imagin have loose hips but not quite that badly. That one may just be a really poor sample.

Just bought a Flame Style off of Amazon for slightly more than I wanted to pay but it was sold out everywhere else.

Is this the figure that is meant to be really shit? Or is that Flame Dragon? Either way I don't mind if it has loose joints or squeaky limbs as I just pose mine on my shelf.

It's this one. People mainly have issues with slightly wonky proportions and the driver which falls off quite easily when posing this figure.

However I'm in the minority and think its one of the best Rider figuarts I own, so each to their own I guess.

Wonky proportions? And as long as the Driver doesn't fall off when it's chilling on the shelf I will be fine.

The neck is a little short and the feet are too big, or something like that. Like I say I personally don't really have many problems with it myself.

And no, it'll be fine when it's in a static pose.

Doesn't sound too bad then! I'll look forward to its arrival.

Oh yeah I also made an offer on Ebay for Kuuga's base Pegasus Form. They were offering it for over a hundred dollars (!) but AmiAmi have it on there for around 2, 000 yen although it is sold out. So I offered them 25 dollars, whether they take the offer is unlikely considering how much they had it on there for but if I know I can one day get it for around twenty dollars on AmiAmi I'll never forgive myself for paying over a hundred dollars for it on eBay.

If they reject it I might offer 30 dollars but I won't go any highr.

There's one on Mandarake for $25.

Thank you so much! So, so cheap!

I was actually cringing at the possibility of you getting ripped off that badly.
I love the Kuuga Figuarts, but they're nowhere near worth $100 :lol

Oh I wouldn't pay that much either.

I've never used Mandrake before, but according to the very broken, engrishy email I have to wait three days to make sure there is stock?

*sighs and stares at Gmail*

That is at the maximum. I usually an email no later than when I wake up the next morning because it arrived at like 2am. Sometimes though, I'll get the email before I go to bed.

This is like the most exciting day of my life!

In other Figuarts news, now I actually got myself a Flame Style and hopefully this Pegasus Form I cancelled all my other preorders.

Well except my one on AmiAmi since I don't know how to cancel that.

Now if only I could find a Rising Dragon Kuuga that isn't in the joint pack with Rising Pegasus Kuuga for silly money...

I think I've asked this before but are they rest of the Go-Busters team worth getting? I don't know if I'd get the buddyroids but since yellow comes with hers I'd want to stay consistent. haha. They are plentiful on Mandarake right now and their prices seem to be decreasing slowly. Just not sure whether or not they would be worth getting since I have about 7 other Figuarts pre-ordered right now.

Also, I think I missed the Kiba-Ranger pre-orders. Are there any Canadian-friendly sites that still have him?

If you like Red Buster then I'd say yes, they're all pretty much the same, quality and design wise. I think Red buster is worth the low prices he generally enjoys. Though Blue and Yellow tend to run a bit higher right now they are starting to fall. Nick and Gorisaki are both really nice but they don't come with much in the way of accessories. In fact Gorisaki comes with nothing at all.

Tamashii Web hasn't closed the preorder window yet so he can still be bought from middlemen. As for the Bluefin version, not sure, but I think Amazon.ca will fully open up in July.

Still no word from Mandrake! :(

So Mandrake have replied now...and the postage is 15 quid! That is a fiver away from the actual toy, I'm not sure I'm willing to pay over thirty quid for Pegasus, I kind of expect that from like Amazon who rip you off but Jesus.

It didn't make clear what the postage was so I just went with EMS, is that like the most expensive shipping option or is Mandrake just very expensive to buy from anyway?

And if there is a cheaper option am I able to change my postage choice?