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These episodes always felt a lot more like time-filler to me than the Black arc, but I'm probably biased because I like Black so much more than this relatively anemic version of Amazon. I also cannot forgive it for having a chance to update the most bonkers Rider monster design ever and doing something so boring with it. |
I remember the Amazon arc for one thing and one thing only.
When Amazon said: "Amazon has not touched a person in a long time" And I laughed my ass off. https://i.imgur.com/IN6If5h.jpg |
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I thought this one had a clearer emotional arc for the Legend Rider, which puts it ahead of the Black/RX stuff for me. It was leveraging Amazon's specific worldview in a way that was easy to invest in, even if the actor was a massive obstacle. I got what was happening, why it was happening, and why the characters cared about it. That may sound like a pathetically low bar to clear, but not every Decade story has managed to clear it! |
This was a fun set of episodes. I always dig the insanity of delving into a Shocker infested society. EEEE!
I do not like this actor for Amazon in the slightest, just like I didn't back then. His battle grunts are weak, and his A-ma-zon is even weaker. He works in some instances but he really looks like he's ready to just fall asleep of boredom. Jyumenki was really cool though, like I know he's a redesign of an old monster but I love that his gimmick is countering the as of now 10 Heisei Riders. Kind of a shame it's just for a one-off guy like him too since that would have made a really cool multi-episode threat for Tsukasa. He was my highlight of these particular episodes cause I just dig concepts like that. |
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But, a world run by Shocker! Pretty great! I like how it's all about how miserable it is to live in a world where everyone is out to get you, something both Amazon and Decade can viscerally relate to... but then it's sort of about how soothing it can be to let an organization fill that void of trust? How it's easy to get suckered in by an organization when you don't feel like it's worth putting your trust in people, and the organization provides the fulfillment you used to find in others. Like, this episode doesn't do a ton with it, but it still manages to touch on the cult-like seduction of misinformation and conspiracy theories, and how the gravitational pull of peer pressure can make people work against their own self-interest. The fascist elements of Shocker are long-standing, but this arc hits a little closer to home in the age of COVID. |
Yeah, that episode title you point out is unfortunate? Amazon proper had an actual episode with a similar title (The Strong, Naked Speedster), which incidentally enough was co-written by this episode’s director.
For other Amazons references, all of the monster Jyumenki has battling for him have the same motifs as the Beastmen, Amazon’s monsters of the week. Also, he Mole Beastman that Grandpa claims to be is an actual character from the show, as are those two kids that are so important (in the show, they were the children of a professor Amazon’s as sent all the way from Brazil to find by his village elder). As for the episode, I do like Jyumenki’s gimmick, like Zero. But I do have to wonder what’s going to happen now that he’s gone. He wasn’t the only villain in that world, right? Also between this episode and the last, there was a spin-off story featuring Decade visiting the World of Stronger, though I won’t bore you with the details here. |
Yeah, that episode title you point out is unfortunate? Amazon proper had an actual episode with a similar title (The Strong, Naked Speedster), which incidentally enough was co-written by this episode’s director.
For other Amazons references, all of the monster Jyumenki has battling for him have the same motifs as the Beastmen, Amazon’s monsters of the week. Also, he Mole Beastman that Grandpa claims to be is an actual character from the show, as are those two kids that are so important (in the show, they were the children of a professor Amazon’s as sent all the way from Brazil to find by his village elder). As for the episode, I do like Jyumenki’s gimmick, like Zero. But I do have to wonder what’s going to happen now that he’s gone. He wasn’t the only villain in that world, right? Also between this episode and the last, there was a spin-off story featuring Decade visiting the World of Stronger, though I won’t bore you with the details here. |
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Amazon's just a great concept, you know? His design and character are so immediately endearing, there was basically no way I was ever going to be as interested in any of those other guys right out of the gate, when I was first learning about the franchise. I remember reading stuff like that he was friends with a mole monster or how he was initially scared of motorcycles(!), and even without those details, the basic premise of this wild yet gentle guy fighting evil while struggling to fit into the strange civilized world around him was inherently intriguing to me. I believe I had seen a few episodes of Amazon before going into Decade, which would slot it right alongside Ryuki and Kuuga as the only ones I had watched any of prior, and, yeah, I think this two-parter captures that inherent appeal of Amazon pretty well. Again, it's sort of a hard concept to get wrong? The actor's performance feels like a directing choice that didn't ~quite~ pan out in the end (the original Amazon had WAY more range than this, rest assured), but the character is as lovable as ever, and wrapped around all this, we've got a world that's sort of Yonemura's prototype for what I feel are the most fun crossover movies he's written, plus some continuing development for Tsukasa and Kaitou's impossibly unhealthy relationship (that last scene!), which is fun in its own right. I guess maybe that's where Decade is at in this last stretch? It's a little crazy to think that these are the penultimate episodes of the series, considering how relatively thin the drama is, but man, when they're still busting out standalone story concepts this enjoyable, it's a lot harder to be upset. |
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Oh I hadn't seen this design from behind before!! Super cool to see the other faces, thank you :)
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I believe I've mentioned that out of the Showa shows I've seen the most of, it would definitely be Amazon (for now). Got 12 episodes in before finding and watching Decade, because I couldn't find the rest of the episodes.
Now I love the idea of Amazon, being the most naïve and open Rider having the least trustworthy world where it's ruled by the villains, which kind of fits the theme of his show. Also, we're back to AR versions of the characters, and this one kind of lacks the primitive charm from the original, which is a bit of a shame. Supposedly the original idea of Amazon was that he was going to be heavily martial arts focused and that he'd be based off Bruce Lee with a dragon motif (or at least his name had something to do with dragon after many of Bruce Lee's films), before they decided to base him off Tarzan. It's still interesting how different Amazon is from every other Showa Rider at the time, like being based off of lizards (whose design I adore), or how he doesn't get introduced like a normal person, or tragic past, but just this bizarre superhuman on the run from Gedon. Quote:
I wasn't too thrilled with Amazon's arc here, but now seeing some of these details and stuff other people are mentioning, my appreciation for this arc has grown phenomenally. |
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This marks the second arc in Decade I actually enjoyed. AR Amazon's' acting included.
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Regarding the Double Riders, yeah, if I ever get around to watching that, I'll probably be looking for a condensed episode list. Goranger's 84 I can handle, but damn, 98 is a lot! Quote:
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KAMEN RIDER DECADE NET-MOVIES: ALL RIDERS SUPER SPIN-OFF
--- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file1a.png I don’t want to be dismissive and say that these specials are my reward for watching Decade, because, man, I like Decade! I think this show is doing some smart things around the edges, and I think the basic premise is incredibly appealing. Decade isn’t hard work that needs to be followed with a reward. These specials are my reward, though. I think they really are. Like, the first one out of the gate is Natsumi being like There Should Be More Women Riders, and then this short film pointing out the hypocrisy of Tackle not being an official Rider when Riderman was. I love it! Yes! A hundred more hours of Team Decade agitating for a more representative franchise! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file1b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file2a.png Fun little short about Kamen Rider Shin, an unfinished V-Cinema project. I like weirdo Net Movies celebrating the forgotten corners of Kamen Rider, pulling out stuff you can tell the producers really enjoy. Why not a little thing about Natsumi wanting a continuation of Kamen Rider Shin, and Kamen Rider Shin dreaming of relevance? Cute stuff. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file2b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file3a.png HOLY SHIT I NEVER REALIZED DIEND DIDN’T HAVE A BIKE. Just… I came in with Ex-Aid! It isn’t weird for Riders to not have bikes! But, yeah, even in the opening, Diend is running after Kuuga and Decade’s bikes. Hilarious! Fun changeup at the end, with the post-production switching the colors around so that a green Diend rides away on a blue Machine Decader. Good short! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file3b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file4a.png So weird that there was a time when Toei/Bandai didn’t know Deneb was the best Imagin. Crazy! He’d eventually get a Figuart, but I guess that was still a few years away when this was shot. A little sad that the budget for this set of movies (probably $20, at most) precluded recording new Deneb dialogue, but I can’t be mad at a short film where Team Decade tries to understand the market forces and production pipelines that determine which toys get made. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file4b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file5a.png I can’t imagine what a revelation these Fashion Check shorts must’ve been back in 2009. A lot of these bits and pieces have been thrown at me in Watch threads, like the Faiz Is A Shark note, but it’s still neat to see the production team divulge these secrets and inspirations. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file5b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file6a.png A jack-o-lantern! WHAT. Happy Halloween from Kiva, I guess! Also, there’s a throwaway line from Kaitou on the panel, where he just goes Being Alive Is A Treasure in a total non-sequitur, and it’s cracking me up thinking about it. Dude loves treasure! And being alive! He’s really come around on Tsukasa’s bullshit Metaphorical Treasures. Those two are maybe less terrible for each other than we all feared/hoped! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file6b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file7a.png Similarly, as Kaitou goes into full-on pitchman mode for chromatic paint, Onodera and Natsumi are sort of beside themselves at Kaitou’s helpfulness and energy, which is both mean and fair. Kaitou is mostly just lounging around their house and flirting with Tsukasa, so this is a little surprising. He’s pretty much ripping them off (he’s charging them over 270,000 yen for a tin of paint), but it’s nice to see him trying to get involved with people other than Tsukasa. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file7b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file8a.png They just… they just don’t really answer the question? The thrust of this short is that it’s unclear why there’s a tilted T-shape on Den-O’s belt, and this short sort of shrugs at every answer as being correct. That can’t be it? I like seeing stuff in Kamen Rider that might not be there, but there’s no way the Den-O belt is a reference to Trains AND Terminals AND Taros AND Train junctions. There’s no way! THEY TOOK THE JOKE TOO FAR WITH THIS ONE. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file8b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file9a.png The CMYK stuff is neat, but… man, I don’t care about the rationale behind Decade’s coloring, I just care that it’s great. (It’s also, yeah, more Magenta than Pink. Ex-Aid’s pink, Decade ain’t.) https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...ies/file9b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file10a.png Some of my favorite shorts from the Fourze Net-Movies (which are maybe the gold standard for Net-Movies, them or Wizard) are the ones where Meteor interviews the suit actors and stunt team. The stories they tell are INSANE, and gave me a whole new respect for what they go through to make these shows. So, naturally, I loved this view from inside Decade’s helmets. The close-up one renders Takaiwa more-or-less blind, while the action sequence one only renders him 80-90% vision-impaired. It’s crazy to think of him doing martial arts and jumping onto crash pads without being able to see where he’s landing, and bless this short for pointing out that Decade’s real superpower is a stuntman who can do all that and survive. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file10b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file111a.png I love it the most when these Net-Movies get sloppy and real, so the highlight of this whole project might be Onodera’s actor screaming at Tsukasa’s actor for sleeping too much on location shoots -- as Tsukasa’s actor falls asleep during the scolding -- while Natsumi’s actor busts out laughing. Just so fun to see these little behind-the-scenes jokes and grudges bubble up onto an ancillary promotional project. Fantastic. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file111b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file112a.png It’s almost cruel to watch these guys run around in Kamen Rider suits, since it was already established that they can’t breathe or see, but they’re clearly having a blast. I like how Kiva stays in character with his Bat Wing run, even as the other four guys are just cheating and being dicks. It’s great. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file112b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file121a.png I wanted to be all I Don’t Truck With Showa and skip to the next short, but all of these little moments with the suit actors! They’re all weird nerds! Because you sort of have to be to become a tokusatsu stunt person! And it’s adorable! When Eitoku has to answer why he picked Stronger and he’s like Because He’s My Favorite and then he just stands there smiling until they yelled ‘cut’ a few seconds later! These weird jock nerds are the best! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file121b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file122a.png I don’t truck with Showa. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...s/file122b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file13a.png I really thought it was Faiz! It’s truly a credit to Tsukasa’s observational skills that he’s able to pick Takaiwa out of a Rider lineup. (I mean, it clearly wasn’t Den-O; too scrawny!) Never doubt Tsukasa! He’s always right! About everything! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file13b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file14a.png He just comes off as this real sweet musclehead? I don’t know. Eitoku is charming in how humble and soft-spoken he is. Takaiwa has a playful sense of control, where he’s clearly okay with carrying this franchise on his back, while Eitoku comes off as this weirdly oblivious prodigy, unaccustomed to the spotlight. It’s neat to learn more about these guys! (I also got it wrong again. I picked Rod Form, when it was Saga.) https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file14b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file15a.png I kind of love how long you can be a suit actor in tokusatsu. It seems like a young person’s game, you know? It’s tough just physically existing inside those suits. Adding to that the need to keep yourself safe during choreographed fights, during jumps and falls, during explosions and rain… it’s crazy to think of doing it for decades, and yet that’s what we’ve got here. Hell, even Takaiwa would go on to be a lead Rider for another ten years. Astonishing to think of these actors doing such arduous work for so long. What legends. (Also, still wrong on my picks!) https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file15b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file16a.png Oh, that’s an adorable anecdote, that Watanabe’s kid (Taiga) was the baby from the first Sieg episodes of Den-O. Very fun piece of trivia. Also, yeah, put both Taiga and Tiger back on Kamen Rider! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file16b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file17a.png I appreciate that Narutaki was confident enough in his masculinity to be like A Nice Butt Matters On A Man, but I was disappointed that the three men of Team Decade seemed baffled that men could even have butts. Come on, dudes. Don’t do that. Also, I don’t want to body shame a legend like Tominaga, but he definitely did not have the best butt in that lineup? It’s Jirou as Pegasus Form, by a mile. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file17b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file18a.png Ha ha ha, this was the same shit that always tripped up the Fourze kids on their Net-Movie game show! The answer to almost every Showa-era trivia question is There Was No Money And They Didn’t Think People Forty Years In The Future Would Hassle Them About Shortcuts. You amateurs! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file18b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file19a.png Of course Narutaki completely reverses himself when his claim that Ichigo was too stalwart and honorable to use weapons blows up in his face. OF COURSE. I love that this show, right before the finale, has settled on Narutaki Sucks as the entirety of his character. Nothing to empathize or sympathize with, no motivation that we as the viewer can apply to his actions… he just Sucks, the end. What a delight! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file19b.png https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file19c.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file20a.png Man, how did Takaiwa get this one wrong? Kiva’s a lighter suit than Decade, I guess. Weird! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file20b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file21a.png After watching 23 of these shorts, I’m thinking I probably should’ve watched all of these Net-Movies before I started watching Kuuga. A ton of trivia that’s been tossed at me seems like it originated from these short films. Are the Decade Net-Movies the most required viewing for anything in Heisei Phase 1? Feels like it! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file21b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file22a.png NARUTAKI! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file22b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file23a.png I don’t know anything about ZX, so I’m happy to forever think of him as portrayed within this Net-Movie: some irrelevant, sweaty weirdo who’s desperate to latch onto anyone that’ll get him back in the spotlight. Please do not tell me what ZX’s deal is if it’s not that. Thank you. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file23b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file24a.png I’ve never needed to patch up a relationship through the proper application of a Henshin pose, but I’m glad to know these short films exist if it should ever become necessary. I remember watching an Ex-Aid toy commercial thing, where Emu shows the viewer how to use the DX Gamer Driver, and finding the whole process surprisingly involved. I’d probably watched him transform into Ex-Aid forty or fifty times, and yet when he got three steps deep into his posing process I was like Wait What Is Supposed To Happen Next. I was very quickly in the weeds on something I felt like I knew by heart. Anyways, fun video! I hope this guy’s able to patch up some serious marriage issues because he can pose like Ichigo. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file24b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file25a.png I was going to write about how strange this File’s subtitle is, considering the two best Amazon Henshin’s I’ve ever seen were Tomoko in Fourze and Natsumi in these Net-Movies, but then Decade tricks some businessman on the wrong end of a global recession into getting naked in public, and I’m sort of (understandably?) fixated on that. This short swings wide, man. It starts with Decade randomly trying to cheer up a guy who is probably about to be crushed under the boot of the consequences of voracious global capitalism (2009! Things were not great financially in 2009!), and then that same guy is probably going to end up on a registry due to a Kamen Rider's advice. Curse you INDEED, Decade! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file25b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file26a.png Despite these Net-Movies existing in (according to the Wiki) the “World of Net”, I think it’s fair to view these short films as resolutely non-canonical. But! I firmly believe that this is what would happen if Decade tried to help random strangers: he would be absolutely no help. Tsukasa’s great at fighting monsters, and saving worlds, and rallying Riders. He is generally shown to be somewhere between inept and harmful when it comes to interacting with normal people. It’s not his strength as a Rider! So, yeah, you could pretty much slot these Rider Pose ones into any other story and they’d fit just fine. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file26b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file27a.png Yeah, boy, Decade just gets this guy murdered. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file27b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file28a.png It’s neat, even for a moment, to watch Takaiwa effortlessly slip between all of the different Imagin characters from Den-O. It doesn’t even matter that he’s in the Decade suit; the second you see that pose, you’re like URATAROS. Very fun to see it again. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file28b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file29a.png I honestly never thought I was the type of fan to get a Driver. I ordered a Lost Driver, from W, very early into my Kamen Rider fandom. (It was something we could get through a vendor at my store, so I figured Why Not.) I’ve never opened it. It’s on a shelf, and I just never feel like playing around with it. I’ve seen other people’s DX or CSM purchases, and I’ve watched actors mess around with belts for ads, and it just didn’t do anything for me. They’re neat, but it’s not anything I need in my life. I need a Decadriver, though. I’ve mentioned it to a friend, so maybe that’s a thing that shows up for my birthday. If not, I’m probably going to get it for myself for Christmas. I just think it’s the coolest belt. I love the mechanism, I love the sounds, I love the cards. The whole package ended up doing something inside my brain that has me coveting a Kamen Rider belt. I’m a little bit scared? I mean, it’s a Rider Henshin device: It’s probably appropriate to be scared of owning one. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file29b.png --- https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file30a.png Wow, Double. Third show I watched, after Ex-Aid and the first season of Amazons. That suit is really an all-time great, isn’t it? The Gaia Memory gimmick adds a lot of cool tactical options, but the base CycloneJoker form is so sweet. Despite coming in through Ex-Aid’s clashing colors and extreme aesthetics, shows like W and Build are more what I’m looking for in a suit: big blocks of color, and standardized designs. The base forms of Build and W all map out in the same ways, and it’s just colors that swap, along with minor additional touches. (A scarf, or a staff, or a vacuum cleaner.) It’s a clean design. I really love it. I hope fans were excited about Kamen Rider W back in the summer of 2009. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...es/file30b.png --- PROGRAMMING NOTE: Oh man, I took way longer on this than I was planning. I thought this was going to be a blow-off, but I sort of spent two days on it? (I also had some unplanned for work things pop up.) As a result, some stuff is getting moved around. Expect the All-Riders movie on Saturday, and the HBV on Monday. Hopefully the final episodes, the winter movie, and the series wrap-up posts will all land next weekend. Thanks for bearing with me! We're almost done! |
That bit of Black just walking in a race, replicating his show's infamous ED... it's something you'd have to know about beforehand, but if you know, it's one of the best gags ever.
It's also the only one of these I've seen! Really need to watch the rest of the net movies at some point; I believe at this point they're the only Heisei Rider things I haven't seen aside from final stages and that's a crime when there's so much good stuff in there |
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Yeah this was genuinely just fun to watch between while I waited for my oven to heat up and then cooked my leftover pizza, before eating said pizza.
Also very informative, I really enjoy it when the Net Movies do these kinds of things and inform you of stuff. The gags were also fun, like the Riders just playing Uno at one point. Or just the fan operator getting in the shot and up in Narutaki's face to blow the wind as he "ONORE DIKEDO!"'d and such. I really love these little shorts and am sad they seemingly just discontinued them after Wizard honestly. Whenever the actors get to play around and have fun in character is a real treat. It's why despite them being Covid Episodes, the very non-canonical and very skippable Super Job War Arc in Zero-One that was used to fill time is probably one of my more recent favorite goofy things. |
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These Net Movies were certainly my reward for trekking through Decade.
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Net movies are late night snacks for me. :lolol
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Yeah, these were fun and surprisingly informative. I still insist that Faiz was modeled after a construction worker anytime it comes up.
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I have never seen these net movies, or any net movies for that matter.
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The indulgence and self-loathing that follows is completely natural. :lolol |
Hey New Movies I've seen the enteirety of!
My favourites of these are easily the first pair, with Tackle and Shin. Tackle for its glorious ending (she was running Toei the whole time! Of course!), and Shin for just utterly twisting the knife on the poor guy. Don't worry Shin, you'll get your time. Eventually. Still waiting. |
KAMEN RIDER DECADE: ALL RIDERS VS DAI-SHOCKER
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...allridersa.png I really enjoyed this movie. I might've actually loved it. I also don't think I can defend any individual part of it? It abandons its storytelling hook -- every Rider battles to see which one is the strongest -- almost immediately. It's an incredibly bleak story. It invents a villainous background for its main character that potentially negates a series worth of character growth and heroism. It raises the stakes on its story by breaking its characters apart, and then doesn't really do the work of fixing them. A lot of the story's emotional weight is conveyed through a brand-new relationship. Most of the thematic resolution comes across as contradictory and ill-explained. W's appearance is ham-fisted. I don't... I mean, I don't want to say that stuff isn't true, or doesn't matter. It absolutely does. For all of the things I'm going to talk about next, the parts I loved, this is still a staggeringly sloppy movie. It isn't the worst Kamen Rider movie, but it makes a lot of mistakes that are endemic to Kamen Rider movies. I don't know why it's so hard to make a good movie out of a good TV show, but these movies frequently make it seem impossible. I still think this movie was great, though. A lot of it is in how it tries to really examine what it means to go on a journey. It's there in Sayo's feelings of abandonment, in Tsukikage's attempts to replace Tsukasa, in Dai-Shocker's ambivalence about Tsukasa's return to power. We've had a whole series about the optimism of a fresh start, or the endless possibilities of the next step along the path. We've watched Tsukasa become more heroic as he meets more heroes, and seen him bond with the people who are helping him along the way. But to go on a journey, you have to leave somewhere. Tsukasa had a home, had a family, had responsibilities, and he left them behind. In his story (if you exclude the part where he was, uh, exterminating Riders), this is a bold, courageous step closer to his destiny. It's adventure; it's self-determination; it's everything this series has been preaching since the first episode. But from Sayo's perspective, it's just more selfishness from a terminally selfish man. She's watched Tsukasa care more about his own needs than those of his family for... I mean, basically ever. Every flashback shows Tsukasa as someone who is wrapped up in himself as a Main Character, to the detriment of anyone else's experience. What I liked about the resolution of this story is that, rather than placing all the blame on Tsukasa for abandoning his sister, it places equal blame between them. Tsukasa was sort of an asshole to neglect his sister after their parents died (because OF COURSE THEIR PARENTS DIED) and go on his grand Main Character adventure, but Sayo sort of let herself be relegated to a supporting role in Tsukasa's story, instead of starring in her own. It's an interesting take on the idea of abandonment, where needing people in your life should never stop you or them from pursuing their dreams. People leave, and that can be sad, but it's also part of life. You should hope for the best for them. You should also use that change to keep living your life, and keep traveling on your own journey. It's a refreshingly nuanced take on support and self-sufficiency, and it's a pretty natural story to tell near the end of Decade. The actual resolution to Tsukasa's search for his past, though... the thematic parts, how it all looped into what this show has been saying about Kamen Rider as a franchise, I loved it! The actual plot was very very difficult to take seriously. With the scope of the full Decade series, it's easy to see what the creators might've been going for. By interacting with a dozen Kamen Rider narratives, Tsukasa's overcome his darker impulses and harnessed them for justice. He's embodying the darkness-into-light aspects that are at the heart of Kamen Rider. He's a core theme of Kamen Rider, made flesh. But this movie really doesn't seem to understand how much of a swing it is to make Tsukasa the once and future head of Dai-Shocker. The biggest mistake this movie makes dramatically is that it doesn't create much space between Amnesia Tsukasa and Dai-Shocker Tsukasa. There should be more of a sense that Tsukasa's journeys have fundamentally changed him, but I don't feel like we got that here. He flips on Natsumi and Onodera with a smirk, and then expects Natsumi to take him back when Dai-Shocker kicks him out. (It's nice that, in a movie that is working so hard to dot i's and cross t's, Shadow Moon gives us a total shrug of Kamen Riders Were Always A Red Herring when it comes time to explain what's going on with the imminent destruction of all of the worlds. Thanks for nothing!) There's a little bit of cover for this with the appearance of New Riderman (Gackt!), where Tsukasa is chided for giving up instead of working to fix his mistakes, but it all feels too minor for what we've learned. This isn't a situation where Tsukasa yelled at his friends, or where he trusted the wrong person; Tsukasa was the head of an interdimensional crime syndicate that nearly eradicated Kamen Riders on its path to total domination. I don't know that a Mea Culpa really settles things! Feels a little lacking! All of that Narrative and Thematic stuff aside (because who really cares about that in a movie with so many superhero suits), this film was a treat. The score was dynamic and engaging. The fights were generally fun, with some clever twists. The special guest stars were very cool. (Shouichi! Momotaros, of course! KickHopper and Ouja, immediately rejecting Kaitou's request for aid and trying to kill the heroes!) A lot of the staging and direction in the first half was smart in how it enforced the isolation of Sayo and the uneasiness of Tsukasa. The movie just looked and sounded great, for the duration. I can't claim that this was a great story, or that it was well-told. I fully expect a bunch of people in this thread to cite this film as a low-point for Rider movies. For me, it really connected. I liked how it used one last minute before the finale to show the unintended consequences for someone's decision to find themself, and to argue for the need to take that journey of self-discovery anyway. I dug it. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...allridersb.png |
Honestly, watching this movie again was a real treat. It had a bunch of fun action shots, and while it's not my favorite of the "All Riders team up to fight together" movies that they start doing, it's still has some fun moments. And hey we finally get our Hibiki Kamen Ride! They were saving it for the movie!
In terms of the emotional core of the movie, it is rather sudden given we've had zero buildup to Sayo aside from the picture from the Amazon two-parter, but I rather enjoyed the short bits of stuff she had with Tsukasa. Also there's a lot of little things you can catch on a rewatch, like Tsukikage being framed next to a moon in the daytime. Speaking of that, I was like "Oh yeah this dude's Shadow Moon, right? Clever Toei.". I was not expecting when he's like "I am Shadow Moon" for TV-Nihon to pop up with a translation note that said "Tsukikage means Moon Shadow". That was a sudden twist that only fansubs could provide and I'm glad I laughed so hard at that. Also it was fun seeing Gackt show up as AR Riderman. So I'll end with this: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/FB1-8gbXM...pg&name=medium I could never forget you Gackt. |
Yeah, gotta say; you've given me more appreciation for the movie!
I never really disliked it myself, though... some of it fell a little flat? Part of that is down to Tsukasa being the previous leader of Dai-Shocker, which as someone who's become a big Decade fan since has never and still does not sit right with me; and part of it is that this movie is relying a lot on the excitement factor of All Riders -- and to be completely clear, this is a huge deal! The last time it had happened was 1989's Black RX where it was 11 riders (they didn't separate Black and RX back then), and the last movie was 1981's Super-1 The Movie. So this is the first time in 20 years we've had an All Rider gathering, the first cinematic All Rider gathering in almost 30 years, the first time we've had the Heisei Riders (and Shin, ZO and J! Hey guys!! My beloveds <3) involved... this was a massive deal, almost as much as the premise of Decade itself. But like you I'd already watched W through Build (and was a little of the way through Zi-O at the time) before watching this movie. So I'd already seen a loooot more All Rider gatherings between Taisens and the like; and in regards to the gathering itself I only really knew like, 7 guys here? Only half of which I even enjoyed? So that might sound like super shallow reasoning but it's always stuck in my mind as what I attach to this movie: the forebearer to All Rider movies which was impressive at the time but just can't compare to how much bigger and wilder the ones after it were. Which is a shame because as you say, there's a lot of thematic weight here; and frankly even then something on this slightly smaller scale with Heisei 1 and Showa dudes I love (against Shadow Moon!!) would likely do a ton for me on a rewatch! So all this reading of it has made a lot of things click in my mind, and what can I say but I'm grateful -- it's always nice when a piece of media you've overlooked as meh or not-that-great can be turned around into something you start liking (experienced that so much with Ghost this year), and you might have just done that here for me. Looking forward to getting around to this again! |
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