Come on, technically, all of these characters are under developed.

And I honestly don't know why Locke even watches Toku. He complains about every series he watches to the point of nitpicks. I understand the annoyance of filler, but that has been part of the shows since the get go and will never end. Anime is no different, especially for year long series. Hell, if there was no filler in a single Gundam series, not Gundam series would be longer than 10 episodes, 15 at the most. Sure, I complain a lot, but my god, that dude makes my negativity look positive.

Hey, uh, we all disagree with eachother sometimes, but there's no need to be bringing complaints about someone into an episode discussion thread.

Agreed, can we lay off the singling out please? Locke fairly gave his reasoning and though I personally disagree with him, his opinion is just as valid as anyone else's.

Especially when Locke isn't here to defend himself. That's pretty unfair to lambast him when he's not even been in the thread for ages.

Anyway, on-topic: I don't see how Hase could have been under-developed when it's clear he served his purpose in spades. He wasn't meant to be a main character or this super multi-sided personality. He was just meant to be a believable character, so we would understand the gravity of the events that transpired. He was a glorified of-the-week character given more time in advance to settle in as a "constant" rather than the sometimes eye-rollingly casual civilian deaths of older series. He was more than effective at his role, and I don't see how that could be a problem. Remember we're only 14 episodes in, just over a quater. Don't expect this to be the apex of the shock wave.

An amazing episode. Got confused as who the energy riders were but I think I got it figured out now. Hase was a cool character and it sucks he's gone now but he wasn't my favorite so it wasn't a big deal for me. Cherry arms surpasses mango arms as my favorite after this episode. That armor is just badass.

Thiiiiisssssssss guuuuyyyyy




>_> Sorry couldn't resist.

I LOVED this episode. I can't wait for the next one. Also, Minami Tsukui can flash a scary-ass smile (see Ep 15 preview)

My comment was made in jest, just FYI :) <3 Locke

This episode really changes the atmosphere for the series going forward. We may end up getting an entirely different show by that point. Is that something you guys are okay with? A different show than what we started with?

EDIT: Gen Urobuchi has even stated that Gaim doesn't really become a "Kamen Rider show" until after this episode. So take it for what it's worth!

A good, tasteful show is perfectly fine with me, even if it's different. Besides, based on Urobuchi's comments, the show being a more "Kamen Rider show" means more heroism here on out. I'd be stoked!

Last thing I'll say, it's not like he cannot just come in here and defend himself.

On topic though:

Yeah, I read that in the interview that the events in 14 is what will get Kouta to become a true hero. I Just hope that applies to the other characters as well. I'm also wondering when Micchy's brother is going to turn good. Is it going to be when he finds out his brother is a rider?