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Though if this got the Dynaman treatment... |
I have no idea what anyone is talking about anymore.
Does anyone have a link to the Dynaman parody dub? |
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EDIT: Anyway, I got the complete MMPR set today and watched the first disc so far. It is going to take me a while to get through this whole thing. |
just finished watching a nostalgia critic review of "Turbo: a power rangers movie" and dear lord i just couldn't hold in my laughter. at some point near the end he hit the nail on the head about fans of power rangers who are now adults (trust me it's not bad).
link: http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nosta...-movie-6608235 |
Watching that actually made me want to give Mighty Morphin a chance again. I know that was the Turbo movie, but I think Doug's points at the end are relevant to all early Saban. I was so spoiled by Lightspeed Rescue and intermittently onwards where the series would try to have actual stories and characters that Mighty Morphin paled in comparison.
If I try it again, with 'it's just meant to be fun' in mind, I'm thinking I might enjoy it. |
Speaking of "it's meant to be fun," I picked up the second volume of VR Troopers (Season 1, Volume 2) off of Amazon yesterday. Wanted just to mention that earlier pressings of this set were missing an episode (specifically, "Grimlord's House of Fear," the first episode on disc 1). The set I received yesterday had the episode, so Shout Factory seems to have addressed the issue. So if you were holding off because of that, it seems you should be good to go.
I'll need to finish Volume 1 before I start Volume 2, but I do so enjoy VR Troopers. It's like MMPR with less continuity. |
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I think VR Troopers has aged the best out of the Mighty Morphin, Beetleborg, Knights of Tir Na Nog days. I guess because VR ripped through like a thousand different sentai shows it's so balls to the wall batshit that it is just hilarious. |
On the subject of Shout DVDs my Beetleborgs Metallix part 1 arrived yesterday. Probably not going to give it a watch until part 2 comes out though so I can do it all at once.
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Beetleborgs is the one Saban tokusatsu adaption show I never got into. The insert stuff was just too much for me. Love the B-Fighter designs and all, but no, just couldn't do it.
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I loved Beetleborgs as a kid but it has not aged well at all. Maybe it was never good in the first place...
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I don't think it's really case of it not aging well, more that it doesn't know what the hell it wants to be half the time.
The initial concept is great, but then having all these haunted house monsters take the central focus more than the oh-so-sweet B-Fighters footage just ruins it. If it wanted to just be about the haunted house gang, I'm sure it'd probably be a fine show. A fine show NONE of us would want to watch, but you get my point :lol I will defend the Shadowborg 6-parter to death though. |
The concept of Beetleborgs is fine, but yeah, the inserts just make no sense to me. I suppose I could watch it with the insert shots on mute? :D
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No, Beetleborgs was just never good to begin with. I hated that show. It got slightly better at the very end when Nukus came in and helped the villains get wiped out, but after the first few episodes of Metallix, the show went right back into mediocrity.
Anyway, I think my second MMPR disc is defective of S1V1. First, there seemed to be some weird glitching during the fight scene with the Putties in the Terror Toad episode as the video kept repeating scenes and moving in what seemed like still shots at times. Secondly, for some reason after the third episode on the disc it took me automatically to the episode select menu and it will not go back to just playing the episodes one right after another. |
So I checked out the opening episode of Mighty Morphin again and tried to take a step back from it and be critical of it on an entertainment level, rather than my usual take a chainsaw to it approach.
And honestly...it is actually really fun, I mean it's still shit and mind numbingly stupid but if you let it be it's very entertaining. The core five are really really likeable characters - well minus Kimberly who is like, so shallow, and oh my God! Their acting really isn't that bad when you compare it to some of the other people Saban go on to employ, the unmorphed fight scenes are very well done and the ridiculously poorly filmed Zyuranger footage (seriously did Japan film this on betamax or what? It looks like shit) and God Awful dubbing means it's absolutely hilarious in a so bad it's good fashion. |
I'm not sure why the Zyu footage looks faded on in MMPR because it doesn't look that way at all on the Zyu DVDs.
Anyway, I just finished the first volume and man, it brings a lot of nostalgia back. I agree with what you said for the most part Locke, but I also hate how there was no narrative to follow in the early seasons. It was pretty much made to just keep going on and on without any semblance of a story or objective. That does not automatically make it bad, but it just makes it inferior to later seasons, especially since there really is no character growth because of this. I have to laugh at scenes that were poorly placed in there like Pink Ranger holding a Japanese kid when they look at the giant Minotaur monster and Franky being in the background when Finster is putting together the Super Putties the episode AFTER Franky was destroyed. Lastly, I just realized why the GR shield looks so crappy in the US footage. Back when Tony Oliver was at NDK in 2011 he said that when he was initially going through the ZyuRanger footage he came across episode 17, which was planned to be the 12th episode of MMPR and it featured Dragon Ranger. He said his eyes flipped when he saw that there was another ranger in the show and he had to call Saban immediately to have an emergency meeting over the Green Ranger, and they had to have the ranger casted and ready to film in 2 weeks time from when he saw that episode. I believe he said that is also why you see a few episodes from the later portions of ZyuRanger in that time frame. As such, they had 2 weeks to make a GR costume, which probably explains the crappy cloth shield. With that said, on to disc 1 of Volume 2. |
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With that said, how fitting. I started the day out with Green With Evil and ended the day on The Green Candle. |
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So really Might Morphin doesn't even hold a candle, so really, accepting the show is shit and just enjoying how bad it is, is as far as I can process, the only way to appreciate the season. |
You guys are totally over-analyzing this. MMPR exists to simply entertain, to be consumed in bite-sized, 22 minute chunks with the occasional multi-part episode (more as the series progresses). It's goofy and silly but you watch it with a smile on your face and as a kid it spurs your imagination. Same with VR Troopers and Superhuman Samurai Syber Squad.
I much, much prefer this method of pure entertainment than a season like RPM, which is trying entirely too hard to be serious, and ends up coming off as grit-teethed, poseur, live-action fanfic. Especially considering that the source material for RPM would lend it self well to a lighter show. There is a happy medium to be had -- I'd say that In Space, Lost Galaxy, Lightspeed Rescue, and Time Force form a 4 year block of very strong televsion which mixes bite-sized "pure entertainment" with longer form stories and characterization. I am not a huge fan of Time Force but there is no denying that the show is rock solid from a storytelling standpoint. |
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Time Force, RPM and Jungle Fury are my three favourite Power Rangers shows because they actually felt like real stories. They had an established world, which would constantly develop in a forward motion and actual characters with faults and depths to tell the story with. I much prefer a Power Rangers season that is about something more than just entertainment. And I think if you're going to just accept any season that is about entertainment only, then you're never going to get another truly great season, we should push and demand for more. |
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Secondly, calling a show "shit" over and over again is not a constructive criticism. It's just name calling. Finally, you list Time Force, RPM, and Jungle Fury as your favorites. Jungle Fury is one of my favorites as well, but you can't tell me that the show does not have a good deal of episodes which exist just to tell their story and sell merchandise, without any real revelations in the larger story arc or character. The Five Poisons is a good example. It has a very minor arc in and of itself, and those episodes and monsters therein are excellent. But it's just a little arc of no real significance, compared to say, the Overlords arc or whatnot. This is what I meant when I said there is a happy medium -- you can do both, you don't need Super Serious (TM) all the time and still tell a good story as well as entertain the target audience. I lump JF in with the four I mentioned, they all have a similar approach; JF just chronologically didn't fit with the point I was making. Honestly, I really have no dog in the fight as to whether you or Kain like MMPR, you guys have decided that it stinks and only exists on a "so good it's bad" level, so have at it. But recognize that not agreeing with that assessment is not dismissing it. |
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Honestly I thought the lack of filler in Jungle Fury was one of the biggest problems actually, ironically, every villain was basically a General character and every moment was hyped up to be the most crucial moment in the series. There was never a moment of downtime and it made the show overwhelming at times and caused problems further down the line when they had to try add in new Rangers and what not. But I'd still gladly take that, than another episode of MMPR which feels like an episode of Saved By The Bell with randomly chucked in Japanese Clips every now and then. |
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But I get where you are coming from with MMPR. I may not agree with you, but I respect how you are approaching it. Personally, I find that a lot of the episodes before Green With Evil have the cast and crew still finding their footing. I much prefer the later parts of season 1, including the Zyu2 episodes, to the earlier part. That's one of the beauties of PR (and Super Sentai for that matter), it's been running for so long that there's something for everybody in there. |
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If every season was just a high school drama rooted very firmly in the year it was made - "this is SO nineties!" Kimberly chimes, once a very true statement, now a hilarious meta critique of the series - with Japanese Clips thrown in every now and then MMPR would probably hold up a lot better because, for example, I think MMPR is better than Megaforce, which is just trying to be MMPR as done in 2013 with a whole lot less imagination and heart. But I just can't physically hold it against the three I listed as my favourites and say that MMPR has anything to offer. |
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Jungle Fury... good? lol
That is a good one guys. I think I stopped watching it after 4 episodes because it was so bad. The guy they got to play Rio's US counterpart acted about as good as he looked, which was nothing, because he was butt ass ugly. Even Mele was down right terrible in both departments. If you are going to hire actors that don't have the looks, at least make sure they can act to make up for it. And sun glasses for the morphers, REALLY?! I also don't understand the mentality, "I got older so I stopped watching it to be mature" that people have. Just because you get older does not mean you have to stop liking something. Sure, things seem more childish, but that does not mean they are good. Plus, you have things that improve the older you get such as BTAS, Animanics, and Gargoyles. You notice more things in these shows, get the jokes that went over your head as a child. The only reason I really stopped watching Power Rangers in the middle of Lost Galaxy is I got sick of new costumes, mecha, and characters every year. Funny how watching Sentai and Kamen Rider has changed that mentality now, but when I was a kid, I got sick of having to buy new toys every year, as did my parents. Well that, and Beast Wars just came out at that time. |
I dunno, Kain, I never "outgrew" PR. Watched it straight on from 6th grade on through graduating from college and then some. Only reason I stopped watching regularly after Wild Force was that my local ABC affiliate did not carry Ninja Storm, and then my girlfriend->fiancee->wife wasn' interested in watching it, so I had to catch it piecemeal. Then again, I was older, so I never got PR toys besides the ones I bought myself!
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I thought everyone had that moment in their lives where they thought they were to old for their childhood stuff? I guess not, I was over that shit in a couple of years thankfully and back to loving Power Rangers in no time (RPM certainly helped). |
I stopped watching because Disney was vehemently against a cohesive schedule halfway through SPD.
I only got to watch 9 episodes of Mystic Force because I got tired of fighting Disney/Disney XD/Jetix just to catch an episode. |
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Hell, I was considering watching Magiranger just because subs for that show was easier to find :lol |
It used to be so easy. Set up a recording to tape from 2:00-2:30 every afternoon. Then watch PR while working out that evening. Like clockwork!
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I was 11 when MMPR first came out. Watched the show continuously through In Space, which I felt was a perfect finale, yet it still kept going Then LG came out, changed the cast and stuff again, which is where I kind of stopped caring but would still watch it occasionally. I got a bunch of LSR, but I think I have only seen two episodes of Time Force and then missed out on most of WF, only to suffer through the majority of NS and enjoyed DT, but after that, I kind of stopped watching it again because I got tired of explosions, horrible Disney villains, and the rangers having super powers. With that said, I just finished watching Doomsday for MMPR. It is odd how they talk to Zordon in the end as if they completely removed Rita from the equation even though they did not. Did they just stop seeing her as a threat? IT comes off as weird because if it weren't for Tommy's return, you could just jump off into Zedd's arrival in S2 at that point as it would make more sense. |
As a kid I didn't even make it to Zeo before I dropped the show. I do remember seeing random stuff on the TV but I had other things to do. I did catch the Turbo finale the aired shortly before PRiS and that convinced me to watch In Space but I stopped again after the Lost Galaxy premier. I think I was 13 and was really into sports at the time. Wasn't until years later I watched some sentai stuff and eventually tried PR again.
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As Saban is working through the Zyu2 footage, the stuff from Dairanger becomes available. Hence the removal of the Dinozords and the introduction of the Thunderzords, but still Zyu2 monsters for a while. The monster that causes the end of the Dinozords is a Zyu2, for instance, Pirantishead. When the Zyu2 footage is exhausted, the monsters from Dairanger begin. |
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I was only like three when MMPR came out and watched the show continuously until Wild Force, where I watched it on and off up until the end of Mystic Force, which is where I stopped watching entirely. Now I'm an adult, I'd definitely say Disney had the better run of shows, I think the only truly great Saban season is Time Force, with most of their other seasons (minus Lightspeed) either ageing horribly or just never being good in the first place. That said Disney has its fair share of problems, both SPD and Dino Thunder are woefully overrated. And pretty much all of the other seasons are underrated, minus RPM which gets the respect it deserves, Wild Force which blows chunks and OO which is the only Power Rangers season I haven't seen all the way through. |
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