Ever since Den-O, the Rider Movies have been canon. Move War Mega Max is the movie that tells you who Nadeshiko is and how he gets that switch.

Is it actually any good? Will I miss out if I don't watch it? Where does it fit in the respective shows timelines?

they are all worth while most of the New Films are all Cannon To the Show so every thing to stuff that shown in the serise are answered in the film they came from

It's just until Fourze transformed into Rocket States and said that name I wouldn't have even been aware the film happened, this felt more like a reference than any kind of continuation.

It's Fourze and OOO, so post-OOO, and right before Meteor's appearance in Fourze.

As for quality, I enjoyed the OOO portion, and thought the Fourze section was lacking, while the joint section was mediocre.
So, you'll think the OOO portion is garbage, think the Fourze portion is the greatest thing put on screen, and declare the joint section to be decent, knowing how things generally turn out.

Best why is when the Movie Are advertise with in the opening Sequances of the show that where they Tie in

No, they're not.
The films are only canon in that sometimes (Note, sometimes) a series will reference events.
None of OOO's movies are canonically referenced in series, so they're not required for watching.
Same goes for Double's. Fourze and his S-1 switch is canon, so watching the movie explains where he gets it, but from what it seems, none of Wizard's movies are canon, either.

So is Forze set in the movie verse then cause nearly All his films are cannon also all vs movies are cannon like the sentai ones and the movie that set before W is cannon

I guess I'll skip that movie then.

I have no idea what you just said.

Sorry one my phone typing things up so I will most likely edit what I said in the morning uk time

I'd recommend that you watch it after you've finished Kamen Rider OOO. I can't tell you why, as it would spoil the series, but I can recommend it.

It also features the moment that inspired this:

http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/20...th-d4vklmn.jpg

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Oh man, Mutsuki's went into Gollum territory for a minute there. Good thing he snapped out of it. I've never seen a Rider so afraid of his own henshin. I wonder what would happen if he ran away. Would a spectral card jsut e chasing him down the street, begging him to henshin?

Tachibana and Kenzaki's former colleague is a bit of a psychopath. From the way it seems, not only is he strong enough to control his own mind as Leangle, but he can control some of the Undead as well.

Speaking, of Tachibana, he needs to stop beating himself up over every little thing. Like Kenzaki said, not everything is your fault, dude!

Shots fired Matrix...

What?
Gentaro fell in love with a girl who couldn't speak or sign. He only liked her for her looks.
It's hard to sympathize and side with him when his attraction is so shallow.

I meant this:

What? It's true. The only series he's liked that has received a primarily positive outlook from the rest of the public has been OOO, and he takes each opportunity to say "It's only because of Date" in every post he praises the series. :p

Well. Date is awesome.

W's movies are canon. The first one explains some backstory for what led to Philip's rescue, the summer one is a fun adventure with some lasting impact that clarifies a scene in the last episode, the W portion of Movie War Core fills in Skull's backstory, and the W Returns ones are just fun sidestories.

And Mega Max is totally worth watching. It's probably the best Kamen Rider movie ever.

I'm not saying that's not true :p

Fair enough.

Not to mention the fact that it explains what a N.E.V.E.R. is and its connection to Foundation X.

Yeah, that's kind of important, too.

I assume you're only joking and this isn't a personal attack but I have time and time again said that I'm enjoying OOO for its great characters, plural.

I enjoyed Eiji from the start, he just couldn't carry the show through the bland and boring first half but when he was joined by Date and Brotou who was developing into an awesome character then the three of them could carry the show even while everything around them was either generic or just shit.

OOO 39. I was kinda worried that now the trio has been broken up, the show would go back to the same suckiness of the first twenty or so episodes and it turned out to be a great episode anyway, it just had so much energy and life, it was hilarious.

There were some problems though, Brotou has got his own style of Birth transformation which is cool but he's clearly too tall for the suit actor so he awkwardly drops down about a foot of height in the middle of the transformation sequence, you don't notice so much once in the suit but during the transformation it looks sloppy. And the orca helmet changed powers.

I'd never attack someone personally. I'm being facetious :p

And Gotou was too tall? That's a new one, I honestly don't remember him being too tall, but it has been a while. And what power did the Orca helmet get now? Was it the water gun?

It's either that or they didn't get him in the same position so he kind of jerks in a jump cut. And yeah it has water gun now, it could see like infared before.

Just watched Kiva 25-28, all I can is Oh my god what revelations! what a trip and love Rising Ixa and Emperor Kiva so much. Such a fun series. I cannot believe that is Wataru's mother, I mean I can but what a shock.

Funny because I'd peg Brotou as being too short, personally. I don't consider him a tall guy, especially since I thought Date was taller than him. Wouldn't think he'd shrink.

Also a lot of the helmets kind of just have "whatever" powers aside from a few specific examples. I think the Orca helmet was supposed to have underwater sonar, not infared like the hawk helmet.

Well, the Taka and Orca helmets' powers are woefully underused, anyway. Hell, Eiji himself forgot he could use the Taka helmet's powers during a movie.

Besides, outside of Lion's flash of light, I don't think Eiji ever used the helmets' powers outside of combos.

Well either way Brotou's transformation was very sloppy and looked like edited footage rather than a transformation.

I'm surised really that Kamen Rider, since it usually has custom transformation each episode rather than stock footage, keeps the transformations as consistent as it does. Especially series like Wizard and W where it's not a flash of light and then they're in the costume, but rather it forms around them gradually. (Especialy W where there's no real obscuring of the effect by any light or energy)

I won't complain about them doing it the hard way! But yeah, this was the first time I've actually been able to blatantly notice the jump from actor to suit mid transformation.

So Fourze 42 was a mixed bag. The whole Virgo clusterfuck seemed overly convoluted with no clear sense of purpose as to why, it was just like they knew they had a lot of stuff left to explain so they decided to cram in like five or six different plotthread wrapups into a single character which ended up undermining all the good reveals around the character or his beautiful death. That said the action was a lot of fun, as Virgo is a total badass and Sagittarius' entrance was fucking AWESOME. It helps that this is my sign and he is my favourite kind of warrior, an archer.

Yeah usually if you see anything you'll just see, like, their posture change slightly. Nothing that can't be explained by "they moved." But when it doesn't line up like your example it's really distracting. Ryuki actually just had that problem last episode I watched.

Yeah and usually it is small and quick enough that you don't notice it unless you play it back or are looking for it specifically but in Brotou's case it was centre stage and painfully obvious.

So OOO 40. I have to ask, what the fuck is this bird Yummy meant to be? With his weird one second middle eastern sounding themesong that violently loops whenever he appears? And his weird dance?

Either way I think this episode thought it was deep and meaningful (I mean seriously those scenes on the beach were all ridiculous) but I dislike Ankh to such a degree that I really cared little for what took place, really it only made me detest Ankh even more. Also why does complete Ankh still have half his face missing?

Luckily everyone else in this episode was awesome, especially Chiyoko and Satonaka. Also, dem legs.

Back to Fourze, episode 43 was a Yuuki centred episode and it tied into the main story, while being loads of fun. Yuuki's parents were amazing, the doppelgänger was creepy as hell and Gemini was awesome! Like some weird amalgam character of Gambit and Harlequin, haha. Although her supernova was shit. I'm just glad this was better than JKs shit second arc. It is also kinda funny because this basically told Ankh's entire character arc in one episode, it really just highlights how shit a character he is.

The only real annoying thing is now people are just skipping the Zodiart stage and going straight to Horoscope which kinda undermines the first half of the show and a majority of what we actually know of the villains plan. Plus it only further suggests just how much of a rush this show is in, despite its willingness to still waste time.

Plus despite Ryusei getting shot and having a huge gaping hole in his shoulder right at the end of the last episode he's inexplicably fine this episode. Only to be fatally wounded at the end of this episode again.

Kiva 29 and 30 I finished. Loved Shizuka's hole Jealous Devil appearance and ruining then helping Wataru be with Mio. I'm loving the intrigue with her as Queen. Love Bishop and Rook too. Can't wait to see what happens next with Nago finally finding out Wataru is Kiva. I feel sorry for Kengo, I am intrigued what happens with him next. Man I am fucking loving Kiva as much as I love OOO.

He does?

EDIT: Oh, that's not Ankh complete. That's still Lost Ankh, and regular arm Ankh is still fighting him within as you'll see, meaning he doesn't have full power thus doesn't have a full form. (plus it adds visual difference between Lost Ankh and the real one complete that we see later)

Also it's a vulture and no I don't know what that fucking musical cue means.

Oh right, I was going to say!

But yeah that musical cue sure was bizarre.

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Alright! Tachibana got his will to fight back. And Mutsuki fell back into belt withdrawal and went into Gollum mode again. The scene where he appeared to astral project his spirit out of his body looked a little weird, though I suppose it's supposed to represent him not being himself?

Ah, looks like Hajime's fallen into the classic, 'dude perceived as a bad guy accidentally lashes out at his friends' scenario, meaning Kotaro's gonna be even more wary of him now.

I honestly didn't expect Shiryu to kick the bucket at the end, but as soon as I saw Mutsuki glaring at him, I knew what was up. He had some cool final words, though.

OOO 41: I guess they made Ankh so one note so you can actually tell him apart from Shingo, minus the fact Shingo wears different makeup. Once again I don't care about Ankh so no amount of plinky plonky pianos will make me care. That said Shingo managed to be more enjoyable in this one episode than Ankh has been over his entire run. That said Hina and Shingo are pretty...close...a bit weird. This show seems to have a thing for..."interesting" family relationships.

The action was a lot of fun though, both Lost Ankh vs Mighty Morphin Eiji and the MOTW as well. I just wish MME was a cooler form because conceptually it's awesome but in reality it's so ugly.

PuToTyra... well, I think I've already said all I need to say, but it really made me wish that the SICs were what the actual show costumes looked like. Imagine how badass it'd look fighting monsters if it looked like the SIC? I especially hate the white that the SIC makes a deep silver. And the explanation fans give for it is dumb.

I also like the Detective more than Ankh because he actually surprised me by wanting to help, having been aware the whole time he still felt like he needed to contribute, even though he was not obligated to. It nice that there exists these noble characters outside of the riders themselves. Plus he's just nice and polite. The only time Ankh did anything really cool was in the last episode.