Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 665283)

I'm up to episode 23 of Faiz and I feel like I've gone completely numb and I’m just accepting whatever is happening at this point. Like, I can't even channel enough energy to properly rage about how Faiz Axel is without a doubt the laziest and most pathetic introduction to an upgraded form I've ever seen.

I mean don't get me wrong, I'm not mad that Faiz immediately knew how to properly use the form. That's a toku trope and one we kinda need to accept because it's not going to change. They won't have a Rider train to use his stuff, it takes too much time. A little bit of slapstick or a "I can't control this power"-kinda situation is the best we're getting.

But that's not the point. Let me explain why by taking a jab at my own name: Kouta get's the Kiwami Lockseed, immediately uses it and fights like a god. No testing or getting used to a forms power or anything. That's stupid, yes, but at least the Lockseed itself, and thus the form, had built up. Kouta was troubled with the choice he needed to make to progress and so on. Now, what happens in Faiz you might ask? What ingenious way have they found to introduce the Axel Watch? This:

http://i.imgur.com/ngn5xAJ.gif

And yes, after this Faiz just transforms into the Axel form and kicks ass immediately. This is what I can’t tolerate. It’s the combination of a completely lackluster introduction of the device followed by a run-of-the-mill fighting scene that disappoints me. It could’ve been so, so much better. But hey, Faiz in a nutshell, huh? Also let’s not forget that this scene follows one where Kaixa gives Takumi the Faiz belt back after it was stolen by an Orphenoch. How did Kaixa get the belt back? I don’t know, they didn’t show it. I kinda assume that tidbit will be resolved later when we learn that Kaixa made some deal with that Orphenoch or something, but do I expect an explanation as to where that watch came from? Of course not.

Thanks for listening, that was my report on how Faiz slowly but surely drives me nuts.

Originally Posted by Annuga (Post 665296)

It's possible there's a section in the manual for it as it isn't just meant for Faiz. Kaixa was originally going to get Kaixa Break, which had similar colours, so maybe he decided "Screw the power up, I have douchebaggery!"

Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura (Post 665300)

Agito was even worse. They didn't even explain HOW Agito got these forms, he would sort of just randomly change into them out of nowhere.

Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura (Post 665300)

Then there was Kabuto where, IIRC, it made no sense if you didn't watch the movie. Hyper Kabuto is just running around and the characters just go "Who is that?!" then at some random action scene Tendou just gets the Hyper Zecter.

Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura (Post 665300)

Early Heisei could be weird about upgrades and for changes. Though I must admit there is something remarkably funny about the low key manner in which Faiz receives Axel.

Originally Posted by MaskedRiderAsakura (Post 665300)

Agito was even worse. They didn't even explain HOW Agito got these forms, he would sort of just randomly change into them out of nowhere. Then there was Kabuto where, IIRC, it made no sense if you didn't watch the movie. Hyper Kabuto is just running around and the characters just go "Who is that?!" then at some random action scene Tendou just gets the Hyper Zecter.

Early Heisei could be weird about upgrades and for changes. Though I must admit there is something remarkably funny about the low key manner in which Faiz receives Axel.

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 665289)

Of course, you of all people show up to defend that shit.

Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme (Post 665306)

(In what universe does Agito's Trinity form have buildup?)

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 665301)

Also Fish Sandwich don’t be mad, it’s just… why do you like the things I don’t like? :lol



I always assumed he had Flame and Storm from the beginning, just like Wizard for example has all basic four forms at the start. Trinity had some build up if I remember correctly and so did Burning and Shining. Although Shining wasn't particularly great either.

Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich (Post 665305)

I just feel like you're being unusually unfair to Faiz with this one.

Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich (Post 665305)

That comparison to Kiwami Arms especially is a little apples and oranges (pun not intended). I know this isn't a one-to-one comparison either, since Faiz only has two upgrades in the entire series, but I see it as being more akin to the random Lock Seeds from early on in Gaim.

Originally Posted by Fish Sandwich (Post 665305)

I guess you'd know better than me since you just watched it, but doesn't Kusaka leave the show for at least an episode, the implication (or maybe outright stated) being he went to Smart Brain, before coming back?

Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme (Post 665306)

(In what universe does Agito's Trinity form have buildup?)

Originally Posted by GoldenXtreme (Post 665309)

Has no one mentioned Kuuga getting his form upgrades from a freaking defibrilator? Early Heisei man.

Originally Posted by Kiwami (Post 665310)

No he leaves with his past classmates because they tell him about a third belt. He does meet that Orphenoch from Lucky Clover who has the Faiz gear at the time but the show didn’t explain to me what went down there yet either.