And for the record, Zi-O did bring back another actor we previously thought was unobtainable so there's that...

One who has never stated he dislikes Tokusatsu. There is nothing remotely the same between Odagiri refusing to come back, and Takeru Sato not coming back until now.

Odagiri's the only instance, as far as I can tell, of a past actor refusing to return to toku for all but one condition due to his dislike. Practically every other actor available has never had that same disdain and plenty of them have made it known that they'd love to come back if given the chance, with the reason some haven't so far being either schedule conflicts, agency conflicts or just no approaches yet.

Odagiri not wanting to come back still doesn't support anyone's thoughts on Zi-O's or Kamen Rider's current quality. He's refused coming back since Kuuga ended and using that fact to take a shot at Zi-O doesn't work.

I thought the notion of Odagari not liking Toku was debunked awhile ago?

Edit: found the article in question

http://tokusatsunetwork.com/2016/03/15074/

dude did you read the article ?
It says like 5 or 6 times that Odagiri does not like toku even quoting directly something he said :

and the article itself end with a summary that says :


Odagiri likes Kuuga but Odagiri dislike Toku. period.

The link you post states he dislikes Toku several times...

Nah, they didn't even try going after past actors in the beginning of Decade. The basic ideas was always AUs reimaginations since they didn't want to actually continue the past stories. It's why you get more returning actors and AU versions that are basically identical to the originals after Sho Aikawa leaves. The original plan always involved new actors for AU versions of the characters.

How hard is it for people to grasp that bad writing and production would reinforce one's dislike that one already has? "This show is bad? Well figures, such is what these shows are, thanks for reminding me why I don't like them." That one wouldn't like the better quality stuff either is irrelevant to the point.

Wasn't it revealed years ago that Yutaka Hirose (famed for playing many Sentai villains in the 80s and 90s) also had negative views of where the toku genre was going back in 2003, and that he only appeared in Agito as a favor for Toshiki Inoue?

Here's the thing though. Odagiri has stated he disliked it with Kuuga being an exception. If Zi-O was up to your high expectations, that wouldn't change. He didn't come back before, he has stated he'd only return for a Kuuga reunion, as in, ONLY Kuuga's cast and not with any other Riders, etc. If you genuinely think Odagiri would have come back, you're only fooling yourself

Well, either way, I'm not really sure I understand how Zi-O would be any better or any worse if Odagari was involved in some way, shape, or form.

Look at Mark Hamill, for example, the dude's stated multiple times that he's done playing the Joker, but how many times did he come back for the role?

Or Harrison Ford; he hated being Han Solo but still came back for Force Awakens anyway.

The point is: a bag of money big enough can make people do anything. And whether or not Odagari comes back for Zi-O does not impact the quality of the show in your eyes.

So can we please move on from this discussion now?