Can't believe Tachibana is still alive. Maybe he got infected by Chihiro.

I don't think so. I think the infection only works if it enters the bloodstream like through a cut or bite. Tachibana was being crushed so even though he's paralysed, he won't become an Amazon.

Anyway, next week, I don't think i'm ready.

So Kamen Rider Amazons Season 2 was basically about the final villain and we didn't even realize it?


Also, I might have missed something, but did Captain Codeine get murderized in Chihiro's outburst?

I will respond to this just once. I am actually 37 and a native English speaker. I even have a degree in it. I know the difference between worse and worst. I also make typos as I type really fast and see no need to proofread on something like this, so kindly take your judgmental assumptions elsewhere. Moving on.

Anyhow, onto the episode itself, Chihiro was a bit of an idiot. I mean what did he think would happen?

I mean, reminding her of her brutally murdered family to try to wake her up? How else was that going to go if it worked? Better for her if she stayed dead. Poor girl.

Sorry, I'm just the worse!

We all make mistakes once in a while. Think no more of it.

Remember he is less than five years old. Add on to the fact that he probably did not have many good interactions with people causing him to be socially awkward and probably would never think that Iyu would do that. Also I just love Chihiro's amazon form.

So next week is the last episode shown very well with the next episode title AMAZONZ and I just hope it is at least an hour long. :cry

I can't see how this doesn't go Romeo & Juliet.

Loved the Neo crack up!

Ow wow how did I forget to mention Fuku after watching last week's episode?! That poor guy. :( I'd say he's had his life impacted the worst by this whole Amazon incident.

Not at all surprised that what Chihiro did to Iyu went catastrophically wrong. Congrats, she's just as broken as you now! They can repress horrific memories together as a totally-not-at-all-weird couple.

Still find it hard to feel bad for him though. Sure, his emotional immaturity can explain a lot of it, but I just... Don't care. Kinda want to see him get taken out next week.

Seeing Jin eat part of Nanaha was super messed up. That's a confrontation I'm not looking forward to since it's probably just going to end in sadness for all.

That was a pretty cool moment though. Basically any time he's in the suit I'm okay with Chihiro haha. Do still love that look.

Think of him as a little five year old boy stuck in all of this - it's not just an emotional immaturity, he's a straight up child stuck in a teenage body. But, yeah, it's a challenge- which, I believe, is on purpose.

And, yeah, Kazuya Tanabe (Fukuda) really, really brought the goods in his scene. That was intense!

The 4C leader is the ultimate douche of the entire series. I could see him and Tachibana making it through the end while all the Amazons might die in tomorrow episode.

Well, there was something said somewhere about the episode ending open. So maybe he isn't really dead? Maybe they just want everyone to believe that he is?

Solid episode overall, but I'd be lying if I said the final fight, or lack-thereof didn't leave me quite upset. It seemed like Tachibana mentioned something about a new project at the very end though. S3 confirmed perhaps? Or maybe this is the end of Amazon cell research and the beginning of a new monster type/rider reboot. Perhaps X? Hiroki seems to have the makings of a rider.

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Anyone want to drink some brain?

Maybe there's a director cut, but the chance of that is very slim. I felt like this season spend too much time on IyuxChihiro. This final episode felt extremely rushed. The preview of this episode was a very typical and cliche toku tease.

Well, just hope that Amazons will have a movie or a special V-Cinema. I don't want spend time anymore for another season and wait for a year. A movie is practically what Amazons needs to conclude the problems. It sucks for the series to end in such a jiffy and mind-scratching :(

Where are you guys finding the raw?

Have you checked Facebook yet? They are going usually provide the raw for Amazons. Just type 'Kamen Rider Amazon's and you are good to go.

Yeah, just found it right after I posted that comment. D'oh.


Anyways, err.....what?


I enjoyed the episode (at least what little I understood due to lack of subs) but some of the storytelling decisions left me shaking my head.

The Mamoru stuff seems bizarrely disconnected from Chihiro and Iyu's plot, yet there's so many ways to tie it together (you know, outside of Jin being present for both of them). Again, maybe seeing the subs will piece everything together better but right now it doesn't feel like the Mamoru stuff was well-integrated into the overall plot other than providing closure for his character arc.

And then they don't even show the 2v1 Rider fight? The one where the main character DIES?! That's seriously horseshit. I think everybody will agree of all of the things in the Episode 13 preview, that's what we were all looking forward to and they completely dropped the ball. I'm not sure if it was because of budget constraints or what, but that was hella weak.

I'm 99% sure that the after-credits scene with Tachibana is setting up a new season/series. I'm leading towards a new series entirely because I just don't know how they can take Amazons' plot any further. It would seem that all of the Amazons besides Omega and Alpha are dead or at least on the verge of dying out since they no longer have a safe haven. I'd imagine we may see Jin and Haruka in said new series, even if it's just a cameo, but that we're moving away from the Amazons theme.

Overall, this episode was just not a strong finale for what's otherwise been a great series.

overtime subs are up for the finale

Well I enjoyed it... I can't wait to see what's next

I was not happy with the final fight being cut and not knowing if Neo Amazon live or die after the battle.

Season one final was much better than season 2.

I have watched the episode in sub. You know what? It's disappointing that we didn't see the final fight with Chihiro and the others but it's EVEN more disappointing not to see Chihiro's original Amazon form. Really, all of the time, they only tease the shadow of the form behind the fog. Two recent episodes show Chihiro's progression to his Amazon form from Neo. But, we got turned down so much!! Just look at this episode, when Chihiro raided 4C, he almost broke into his Amazon form... only to revert back to his Amazon Neo form! How a troll is that!!?

Anyway, I'm sorry if I turn your guys hope for another season. See, the possibilities of having another season of Amazons is pretty slim, maybe not even reach 20%. There're several factors of it if I make a little theory:

-First of all, the letter. Let's be brutally honest, how can they make another season if the alphabet letters are already used up all of them? After all, this is Amazons biggest trait. Still, it's not the strongest argument since Toei could just rip off the alphabet elements or make a complete awkward alphabet like in Excel e.g. AA, AB, BB, CD.

-Second, it seems that the budget for Amazons aren't so big and good. You could just see that they even can't make a proper suit for Chihiro's Amazon form. I'm highly sure that it's just Amazon Neo with a new head, or at least they used Sigma's body and the new head for creating a new Amazon form. The six arms and tendrils are highly a CGI thing. This might also be the reason why the can't show the final fight with Chihiro. Seeing the budget is rather low, it's hardly to expect for a new season for Amazons.

-Third, while it's indeed Tachibana said something about a 'new Sigma' project, I don't think it will be a strong basis for a story in another season. This is also the problem with Season 2. The main basis of the story is Chihiro is a dangerous Amazon and needs to be exterminated. But, it drags..... so much in this season. You could basically cut half of Season 2 and you won't still lose so many things about Chihiro and Iyu. Maybe for a movie, the Sigma story might still be used well and not dragged so much like Season 2 but as a season, I don't think so.

That's all I could find an argument why Amazons can't be made to another season. Don't get me wrong, I still love Amazons and I'm still hooked up if there's another season. But, the chance of it is pretty slim. Still, for a theory, I do think that Tachibana's words regarding the new Sigma might won't be good. He might want to turn people into a mindless puppet, just like Iyu, hence why he makes another Sigma project. The last shot with the urban city just strengthens this theory too.

He's definitely dead. You can see Jin holding Chihiro and Iyu's neo amazons registers at the end. Jin is depress that he's still alive and alone in the end. I guess Jin and Haruka are out hunting the infected humans since Tachibana is planning to create more Sigmas again to help him finish the job. If there's no season 3, then there might be a v-cinema movie that complete the story. The humans that are responsible for the Amazons creation are still all alive.

I liked it, but I do feel like the spark is gone by now, the last few episodes did feel a bit exhausting to me. I really hope they don't do a season 3 and focus on something new next.

Maybe a Rider show for adults that isn't full of gore and has a depressing filter on all the time.

I have to say, despite some flawed storytelling, I like what this season was trying to do.

Chihiro becomes the end game final boss. And that's freakin' mindblowing considering he was our protagonist for the majority of the season and seemed like a standard heroic Rider, fighting monsters and being fairly noble. Then it goes downhill. We basically find out he's a living virus and then EVERYBODY in the show starts gunning for him, which causes him to be concerned with his survival, as well as Iyu's. This whole season, we basically watched the hero become the villain, and only because he was back into a corner. And the most heartbreaking part of it is that NONE of it was within his control. In fact, it's also a key part of Jin's development. Chihiro's suffering, and all of the events surrounding it, are the direct result of his actions.

And that's one thing that Amazons has the freedom to do. Because normally with that type of story arc in a Kamen Rider show, the Rider would gain control of his powers, convince everybody to his side and ride off into the sunset with the other two Riders to tackle the next big bad. But here? Nope, it's just all tragedy for Chihiro.

I spent a big portion of this season unsure whether I liked it or not, and while I think it took a long time to find its footing (which might have partly been the aim thinking about it) I came to really like it. Perhaps not as much as season one on a pure enjoyment level, but I definitely went away thinking about this season more after each episode.

It was such a well done tragedy. There was no real heroes (apart from the past extermination squad I guess but even they acknowledged they'd messed up letting Mamoru out of their sight), just people who'd either made mistakes of varying severity or monsters born into circumstances they had no control over. Watching all the varying plot threads from the first season come together to spiral in this horrific mess was really bleak.

While I agree with the sentiments that it's a bit disappointing we never got a proper look at Chihiro's true Amazon form, I honestly didn't mind that we never got to see the final battle. It's a bit of a Kuuga situation for me where it didn't need to be seen to have the intended impact.

So yeah, a slow start but a great finish. I kinda hope they do more but at the same time I also hope they know when to stop.


(New Omega still looks dreadful though)

Just saw the sub today, (watched the raw last friday) and all I can say is such an impactful ending. That sad song at the end is now stuck in my head and all I can think of is Chihiro's tragedy.
My first impression with how the final battle was shot was shocked but, as others have said it did leave a huge emotional impact for me even if we did not get to see it. My problem with the turnout is that I wished the show did a better job with how tragic Chihiro's life was.
Jin's act before fighting Chihiro really completed his character and his wish after the fight really made me love his character even more.
I was not satisfied with Mamo's ending as his ties to Nanaha weren't that strong.

As someone stated before, Hiroki is rider material. Team X=Kamen Rider X? :p
The cliffhanger was unnecessary imo, as it set up another arc when this arc was met with mixed reviews.
I'll miss Amazons but I do with they leave the series to rest. Jin and Haruka's fate could be left to the audience.

Overall this season reminded that of a shakespearean ending.You either die or left to live a scarred life.

This was a great series. I enjoyed every bit of it. Although I never liked Chihiro or Iyu, their deaths were really. I'm glad Haruka got the chance to live since I was always fond of him. I wonder what the cliffhanger at the end means for the series.

So, with the season 2 concluded, how is everyone's opinions about Amazons season 1 and 2? Which is better?

For me, I felt that season 1's pacing and dynamic is average and it just wanted to play safe. You never get to see anything to be escalated so much in the series. The appearance of Amazon Sigma and Tlaloc Project didn't impact to the whole dynamic so much compared to Chihiro's things. The two-parter was still there and it somewhat broke the pacing a bit. You don't get the sense of climax until the last minute.

For season 2, the dynamic and the pacing had up and down but it really kicks gear when it's time to get really serious and reaching the climax. You could clearly see that it was a bit dull and boring with Chihiro and Iyu in the beginning but ever since Jin appeared again and Chihiro's break out, things were never the same anymore. Unlike in season 1, the last 5 episodes of season 2 were dedicated just for Chihiro's extermination and you could feel the climax and the heavier plot there.

Overall, I actually like season 2 a lot ore than season 1. Chihiro really grows on me and it's so heartbreaking seeing him getting so many sh*** in the series. I do hope that Haruka and the Extermination Team were more relevant because them and Mamoru didn't take so many major actions until the last brink. Season 1 is good in its own way but it feels flat sometimes and it plays too safely. Season 2 while can be going up and down in hill, it's a pretty satisfying series. Still, the finale is a bit disappointment but I don't really want to see Chihiro and Iyu's corpses.

^I think I enjoyed season 1 more mainly because Amazons was a new concept at the time which made it more exciting but with season 2 there were stuff we've already seen so it didn't have the same excitement.

^Yeah, back in season 1, Amazons was a punch to the Rider series, especially due to the sister series was Ghost, which was pretty mediocre at best. I think the fanfare for season 2 was died down a little bit since Ex-Aid is actually a pretty good series to begin with. However, I do think that Season 2 is much better at setting the end and the climax which season 1 failed to accomplish with. There's little events that actually effected season 1 as a whole, even with the Tlaloc Project. In season 2, ever since Jin appeared and Chihiro's true nature was revealed, it really changed the tone for the whole series. It was pretty lighter thanks to Chihiro's attempts to reach Iyu but it changed drastically for the last half of the series. I think if they have more episodes, they could dig it even more.

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Yay, I can finally listen to this beautiful song on repeat :)

I honestly hope they do a new series that continues the story somewhat. Also it is hard to believe Chihiro is dead.

Like someone said Hiroki as KRX isn't too bad.

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