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Or maybe Delta's just so cool, he decided to let Faiz have his story rather than make the show about him
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Right up front, I guess since the music has come up a few times before, I might as well mention that episode 33 debuts the show's third and final primary insert song, "EGO 〜eyes glazing over". It'll play a few more times throughout the remainder of the series, but, just like Die was maybe hoping for, the show also relaxes its rules about how often it needs to play songs a little starting here.
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Delta's still getting that treatment, yeah, but I think the show's moved well past the days of buying the Faiz Gear back from a pawn shop by now. Which is good, because if Faiz were only concerned with flippant, ironic storytelling, I wouldn't love it anywhere near as much as I do! Quote:
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KAMEN RIDER 555 EPISODE 34
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/faiz/faiz34a.png --1-- If I was a betting man, my money would've been on Kusaka as a secret Orphnoch. That idea, of him being an Orphnoch who loathes other Orphnochs, it's poetic. It feels like it'd be how Kusaka would deal with his turmoil, you know? If I was spreading that money around, I'd probably play the range of the Ryusei School alumni all being secret Orphnochs. Mari, for sure, after last episode. I mean, the first episode of the show has a dead person getting up as an Orphnoch, so why not now? Also, Orphan Daddy is a big ol' Orphnoch, and we've still got no idea what he's been up to all this time, so maybe he did some secret surgeries to make them all Orphnochs? Or there's the reunion no one will talk about, maybe they all got turned there? So, yeah, those were my Back Of The Mind guesses. Nothing I was certain of, but definitely things I felt like the story was supporting. Takumi, though. I mean, goddamn. --2-- It's tough to talk too much about it, since it's really only established at the end of the episode. It's pretty heavily hinted in the middle, when Takumi goes to see Murakami, but nothing concrete. When Murakami says that Takumi can't be in Lucky Clover unless he's an Orphnoch, there's a look on Takumi's face that reads as resignation, but that resignation has two different possibilities. There's the resignation where the Smart Brain door is closed to him, and he'll have to find some other way to bring back Mari. Maybe enlist Yuuji, who's starting to think he might've misjudged Takumi? Maybe. But there's this other read, one where I'm like Yeah But No, where Takumi has resigned himself to be outed as an Orphnoch. It crossed my mind for, like, a second, but I dismissed it. What the hell would that mean if it was true? What would it do to the show to have him be an Orphnoch in secret all this time? What lunatic would blow up his own premise like th--- oh, yeah, right, it's Faiz. It's such a ballsy move. I don't know what it means yet, but I'm dying to find out. --3-- It helps that it's not like the show was killing time before this reveal. Not in general for the series (well, the last couple episodes weren't my favorites), and not for this episode. There was a lot I would've normally written about this episode, before the last couple minutes played. Stuff about how Takumi's heroism has a purity that Kusaka's lacks, based on what each man will do to save a friend. Takumi doesn't wallow in self-loathing, despite Someone Is Dead Because They Were My Friend being his worst nightmare. He gets his ass kicked by multiple people, but that's only when he thinks there's nothing left for Mari but his penance. As soon as an opportunity presents itself, he's all in. Even when it's a plan that Kusaka's like This Almost Definitely Won't Work, Takumi wants to try it anyway. And, man, Kusaka has a point about it being sort-of a leap, plan-wise, but he doesn't bail because the plan wouldn't work. He bails because if the plan does work, he can't be Kaixa anymore. He tells everyone that Mari means everything to him, but in this one he confronts the reality that he loves being Kaixa, that he wants to destroy Smart Brain, more than he loves Mari. It's a great way to reassert Takumi's core heroism at a time where he only wants to be seen as a failure, and to reassert Kusaka's selfishness when everyone views him as their savior. Or, I could've talked about how Mari's death doesn't feel that much like a fridging, since it's not really about vengeance, it's about grief. It motivates Kusaka and Takumi to try and save her, but that's around the edges. Most of the episode is about Takumi's self-hatred and grief, or Kusaka discovering the primacy of his need to be powerful over his need to possess Mari. It succeeds dramatically by treating Mari's death as a real, sincere thing. Saving her, bringing her back, it's viewed as nearly impossible. She's allowed some dignity, rather than immediately becoming some totem of Manly Suffering. Like, her death means something because Mari meant something, not because it empowers someone else. It's a fine line, maybe, but I thought the show stayed on the right side of it. --4-- There's also some good little bits with Kaido and Mihara, two refreshing views on empathy and responsibility. Kaido's story is a comedy right up until it's a tragedy, which is one of my favorite moves. It's all this time swelling Kaido's head, so this kid can tell him he's not a hero, he's a failure who let the kid's parents die. Not 100% sure where this thread is going, but it's got a fun swerve to it. Mihara, I really do love how much he doesn't want to be in a Kamen Rider story. Jesus, why would you? Every series seems to have a story about The Heavy Burden Of Being A Kamen Rider, and, like, Mihara acknowledges that! He gets it! He doesn't want that burden! It's still super funny that every other Ryusei School alumni ("Go Meteors!”) is raring to get murdered, and he's totally fine running away forever. What in the sweet hell did Orphan Daddy teach these weirdos? Were their active shooter drills about running straight at any gunman? Mihara seems like the only one who'd rather, y'know, live, so of course he's our new Delta. (TV-Nihon made this episode's splash image Delta and Mihara, so that turn in the story wasn't much of a surprise.) I liked how defensive his fighting style was, how he cowers a bit in his stance. I'm sure he'll be immolating monsters in short order, but he had a fun No Thank You aura that I dug. --5-- Hard to talk about that other stuff, because Takumi is/was an Orphnoch! That... I feel like I've barely talked about anything else in this episode (that was largely good, save for any of the scenes with just the Ryusei kids) because, like, that ending! (I mean, I didn't do more than touch on Yuuji starting to figure out he's been wrong about Takumi, and that's my favorite character pairing!) Takumi's an Orphnoch! Holy shit! https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/faiz/faiz34b.png |
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(Also a bit of unreleated thing I have a pic that happening but I don't know how to add pictures on here) |
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Huh! I think the show (if memory serves) established it more like Keitaro was allergic to, like, evil. He'd sneeze around Orphnoch attacks, since Orphnochs were doing evil. I took that sneeze around Takumi as a joke about how shitty Takumi was being at that point in the series. Still! Maybe not! |
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And don't pay too much attention to Switchblade, by the way. Mihara's a cool dude. Actually, I heard he's so cool, I was thinking of him the whole time we were making all these Delta jokes! |
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It's times like this that I feel good about only watching an episode a day. It's tough, to not just watch the next episode. I didn't know I had this kind of resolve? It's like those parents that somehow are able to lift cars off of their children, but in this case it's me not watching the next episode of a Japanese kids show designed to sell toys. I mean, I watched Ryuki, I know that heroism is subjective! Anyway, I like giving this episode some space in my brain. It would feel rude, almost, to just find out what happens next. You know? They pulled out a cliffhanger that redefines the previous 70% of the show. That... it deserves some consideration! I really do like that the show never felt built around this reveal. It's structured so well that it doesn't feel like it needs a reveal. I feel like that makes it twice as good, it being great when it didn't even need to exist. God, yeah, fun-ass twist on this one. |
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Honestly, I'm mostly thinking more about all of the stuff about how Takumi feels about Orphnochs. I don't want to spin this around too much in my head. There's a lot of explanations left to come, I'd hope. (I don't want to assume on this show. They could just as easily never have anyone address it!) But, man, there is so much of this show that's given over to Takumi having complicated feelings about Orphnochs, and, no shit! Like, man, even two episodes ago, he's telling Yuuji that he can't judge Takumi for letting Mari get hurt since Yuuji's an Orphnoch. Orphnochs hurt people. It's what they are. And Takumi's an Orphnoch!!!! And he's hurt his friend! Takumi thinks all he does is hurt people! WHHHAAAAAATTTTT IS THIS SHOW?! |
I can't... I can't stop thinking about this.
If Takumi's been an Orphnoch all this time, all of the Team Faiz and Team Orphnoch stuff, the duality of the show, snaps into focus. It's not two different groups grappling with how to navigate a world that codifies different types of people as Good or Bad. It's six other characters acting as a prism, showcasing all of Takumi's hopes and fears. Everyone else, they're an example of what he wants, or what he fears, or what he fears wanting. It's those things I liked about that earlier Yuka story, her inability to articulate her own identity, but that's what the whole show has been about. THIS SHOW! It was pretty great, and now I find out it's secretly been exceptional! |
Kamen Rider is a franchise that's all about using darkness to fight darkness, to harness our flaws to fight for freedom. What Faiz is doing is saying What If You Are The Darkness You Have To Fight, and I'm fascinated by that. How do we live with ourselves? How we decide what of us is worth protecting, and what isn't? What of us is heroic, and what is monstrous? It's all of the stuff that's normally an external concern, but it's all made personal, internal.
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This is something that’s been hinted at since the first episode, as remember Takumi wasn’t surprised about the existence of Orphnoc almost like he was already aware of them.
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The fact that some of the Ryusei School kids that show up to visit Mari in the hospital are brand-new is hilarious to me. Where are they coming from? Why did they show up for this, but none of the other tense situations? Is it a roster that they're moving down? Do they have on-days and off-days, and this was the on-day for Mihara and the other three? I don't get that group's structure at all. Quote:
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Yeah,if you ever make a Rewatch thread (in like 2023 or something I suppose), I hope Faiz would be a top priority. It's just so staggering how much the revelation recontextualize everything in the early episodes and your own character analysis, in a way that adds to them instead of contradicting them. So much food for retrospective thoughts!
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For now, I just feel like such an idiot. It was staring me in the face and I never saw it: https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...akkunorph1.png https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/...akkunorph2.png HOW WAS I SO BLIND |
I'm so happy the Orphenoch has blown your mind the way it should! I don't actually remember what at all my own reaction to this was, I may have already known the twist beforehand? It is a really good twist though, that adds a juicy layer of context to previous scenes.
So while all that is happening, I want to mention how I absolutely do remember some of my feelings regarding that Delta stuff. First of all, Kitazaki just throwing away the belt is certainly unexpected, but like, why though. I was just getting used to Delta as this really menacing villain and then 'nah'. At the same time, I was also in the same boat as you as when those two Ryusei people came to visit Mari in the hospital, I also didn't know whether they had shown up before or if they were new, so I kinda didn't bother registering them in my mind. That's why when one of them started talking about he didn't want any part of this, I was just like 'good for you, bye'. But then it turns out that's an actual character arc the show was playing out, and I was seriously baffled because with all the other stuff happening in the show, I had no idea why the show kept cutting back to the plight of a random guy whose name I didn't even remember. But then he gets casually handed the Delta Gear and I was like 'wait... Is he just gonna be Delta from now on??? I guess I gotta catch his name now...'. It bordered on surreal to me. If Kitazaki had to arbitrarily throw away the belt, and if it had to find one consistent user instead of just being passed around... I figured it would maybe to go someone on Team Orphenoch, or Keitaro (I'm not even gonna pretend Mari is an option...). |
Takumi being an Orphnoch is -definitely- one of the show's best twists, and I'm so happy it wasn't spoiled for you; these days it's just one of those spoilers that gets thrown out there as basic knowledge among fans even by official media, just like how Blade i̸̛̺̪̞̞̩̗̙̩̝͇̗͖̰̱͖͍͘ͅn̶̯̣̰̠̳̠̩͕̗͇͞F̵̵̢͙͈̖̱͖̼o̵̧̭̲͙͈̮̰͚̳̗̻͈͡R̡͍̖̲̣̥͙̲͚̣͖̺̪̫͢͠ͅM̶̡̦͉̙̳A̛̳̺̗̗͕̙͈͎̮͉̰͔͖t̶̨̛̳̜̘̦͉̭͓͝͞i̸̡̤̯̞̥͜͟O̢͞͏҉̦̝̪̩͉̤̼̲͓̼̘͕̣̱̺̖ͅņ̸̶̛̭͚̗͍̫̹̺̤͍̺͍͖̣͉̥̫͘ ̵͔̬̤̥͇̣́̕͢W̦̻͉̞̺̩̞̜̪͙̯͓͞I̛̗̖̤͉̦̳̝͙͝t̡҉͍̣̫̘̥̳͔̗̠̼͔̤̭̗̫̼̟̳̕h҉̷̛̭̺͖̻̠Ȩ̨͏̛͇͇͉͎̲̜̼͎̜͖̜ļ̸̛͡͏̲̺̭̪̳͓̱D̷̡̡̺̩̙̫̮̖̹͇̘͓̳͉̟̕̕
So I'm really glad you get to just enjoy this as is because I really, really liked it. I guess it's a little harder to appreciate now but "Kamen Rider has been the monster the whole time" is... not exactly new to the franchise, but it wasn't ever done as directly and as obviously as this and especially in such a way that recontextualises it all. It's one of those things about Faiz that I can't deny is great! |
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Dude! I don't remember catching that at all even on a rewatch! Gahhh, this show is so cool! |
I remember near the beginning of the show you wondering why Takumi could use the Faiz belt and wondering if they'd even explain it. Well, they just did. The show's been setting this up the whole time.
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Remember back when this thread was newly born when I said this?
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Oh? Surprised no one talked about one of my absolute favorite parts of the episode: Kaixa's phone ringing while being attached to the belt. That juxtaposition between the mundane and the fantastical. That's exactly what this show is all about.
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After years of people turning their noses up at Faiz, it is a real joy to read so many positive thoughts and feelings about one of my favorite Rider shows. I hope the eventual Kabuto and Kiva threads get this kind of love.
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Still, hey, thanks everybody for letting me discover it on my own! You're all the best! Quote:
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Also, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure that fact never comes up in Takumi's reappearances in Kamen Rider Taisen and the like? Which, if I'm not just forgetting something (it was maybe in Kamen Rider 4?), serious props to Toei for not just defining his entire character by that one big twist. |
Everybody was very cool about keeping the Takkun: Orphnoch! reveal under wraps. I really appreciate it!
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Remember how Orphenochs have hypersensitivity? Kiba can see further and hear louder. Kaido can detect scents. Takumi is a nekojita and his hands are apparently sensitive to heat as well. It might just be a quirk he's always had though, considering Saya was a human and a nekojita. But it might not! I'm sure Kusaka enjoys being powerful, but he also seemed burdened by that power when he was angrily throwing the Gears out of Side Basshar. It's more like he needs to be Kaixa. He wants to destroy Smart Brain, not help them, even if it means he can't be with Mari. This is another rare moment where he's sympathetic. Mari's death has only fueled his hatred of Smart Brain and his primary goal is no longer to protect Mari. He wants to avenge her. Takumi was desperate. He was determined to bring her back to life no matter what. Kusaka couldn't go through with his plan and that meant he was now the only one who was willing to do it. Until now, he had kept his Orphenoch nature a secret from everybody out of shame, but this time he needed to become the monster once more. It adds a whole new layer of meaning to his interaction with Orphenochs. Like Kiba, Takumi wants to hold on to his humanity but he fears that someday he'll turn bad like Sawada and betray the people he cares about. He sees the sins of his kind as a reflection of himself and what he might become which is why he wants to believe that they can be good. Quote:
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Along those lines, I spent a minute last night trying to find a screencap of Keitaro saying Takkun Orphnoch. I didn't want to scrub through a crazy amount of episodes (it was bedtime for sure), so I just typed Takkun Orphnoch into Google. Holy shit am I glad I didn't do that before watching Episode 34, since 90% of the image results were of Takumi's Orphnoch form. That... I would not have expected that search to generate a spoiler! Quote:
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(I'm going to explain this badly.) With a plot concern, the energy is all in How Are They Going To Fix This. It's not so much about the effect it has on the characters, normally. That didn't end up being how the show played it in the follow-up, so there was more to dig into. But in general, those sorts of cliffhangers are something I can only really comment on after they've been resolved. A story concern, it's a lot more interesting to think about or speculate on. Reveals, twists, that sort of thing. The idea of what a development means for the story is more interesting to me than How Will The Hero Survive or whatever. I don't know if that makes any sense! Quote:
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