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(Funnily enough, I was going to specifically mention that it feels unfair of me to come in here with my future knowledge and act like you should be getting all this right now, but I ultimately decided to cut that thought entirely. I definitely understand the difference in our positions here.) Quote:
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There are three guest stars that I wanted to point out. First are the Leo Imagin's troopers, played by recycled ZECTrooper suits. More importantly, we have Kai himself, played by actor Hideo Ishiguro. Ishiguro's highest profile tokusatsu role is as Gai Kurenai, the leading role in 2016's Ultraman Orb (and it's films and spin-offs). For my money, Orb is my favorite of the current New Generation era of Ultraman (which is a really high bar) and Ishiguro, in particular, is fantastic in it. He's one of my all-time favorite Ultra protagonists. It's a performance that couldn't be further away from Kai: heroic lone wanderer haunted by his past failures. He also does the Kaiketsu Zubat thing of appearing suddenly while playing a musical instrument, which I'm always a fan of. The other guest actor is Kenjiro Ishimaru, who plays the Station Manager. Ishimaru is a veteran actor and TV narrator whose body of work includes, apparently four Kekkou Kamen (don't Google that) movies all made in 2004. More notably, he's made multiple appearances on Sasuke, known as Ninja Warrior in the US. He's not the only Kamen Rider actor to appear on that show, but I cannot find a full list easily. I want to say that either Blade or Agito's actors did it, but I can't remember. Either way, you may think that Kenjiro Ishimaru resembles Owner's actor, Kenjiro Ishimaru, but you would be wrong. |
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I'm about eighteen months out from catching up to Kamen Rider Whatever Is After Saber. This year is Kiva, Decade, maybe starting Zi-O. Next year is Zi-O, Zero-One, Saber. And then I'm done with all the writing I felt like it could be interesting to read. Eighteen months is a lot of writing I've got ahead of me, and yet I still think about additional projects for the future. Not on a regular daily basis or anything (that's probably done when I catch up on Kamen Rider), but something I could have fun with a couple three times a year. Go-Busters, to try out a Sentai. Maybe an Ultraman, since folks seem pretty into that. But then I think about all the shows I never wrote up, 'cause I already watched them. There's a part of me that would like to point to a thread for every Heisei show, to go I Made That. Except, I don't know if that'd be as interesting to me, revisiting shows I've already watched. Maybe that'd be a nice experiment, though, to come at with the full scope already in mind. Instead of shrugging at, say, the Meteor stuff on Fourze, being able to see it for the ways it talks about friendships that are transactional, or about the ways friendships can sometimes let guilt overpower self-sufficiency. I remember that brief Ex-Aid Movie rewatch thread being fun. I don't know. (Folks can chime in if they'd care about me rewatching W through Ex-Aid, interspersed with first time stuff. Interested to know if there's interest. I would kind of love to let the final Big Project that I tackle for these boards be rewatching Ex-Aid. There's a symmetry to that that I find really enticing.) So, yeah, the tension of y'all having watched these episodes while I haven't, it's sometimes weird for me. Not bad! Not at all! But I think it can lead to us getting different things out of some of these episodes. |
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Only cover Wizard again if you want me talking about how awesome Shunpei is every episode.
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(I will not love seeing him again! I feel like a lot of that thread is going to be countdowns to the Phoenix/Medusa/Gremlin spotlights!) Quote:
Also, I mean, my brain has definitely formed itself into a shape that needs to do this kind of thing regularly. Even if I don't rewatch shows, I'm sure there's random stuff I could take a poke at. I kind of like the idea of doing another 6-7 Rider threads, though, and tossing in some other stuff in-between. That commits me to another four or five years of this... whatever this is. I'm okay with that. |
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And Die, don't forget that Kamen Rider BLACK now will be rebooted to Kamen Rider Black Sun so more fun awaits. :lolol |
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And here we are with the debut of the official Big Bad… and Kai. Here’s his VA’s other credits.
Kazuhiro Yamaji Notable Anime roles: various roles in Detctive Conan, Bel in DokiDoki Pretty Cure, the Narrator in Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V Notable Tokusatsu roles: Kei Karasuma in Kamen Rider Blade (Live role), Emperor Yodon in Mashin Sentai Kiramager. Notable video game roles: Makoto Date in Yakuza. Notable dubbing roles: Various roles played by Jason Statham, Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, Sean Penn, Willem Dafoe, Al Pacino, Christoph Waltz, Kevin Bacon, Gary Oldman, Nicolas Cage, Benicio del Toro and Viggo Mortenson, Ron Burgundy in Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy, Red Skull In the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Kendall Duncan in Bedtime Stories, The BFG in The BFG, Mister Tinkles in Cats and Dogs, Bane in the Dark Knight Rises, the Ninth Doctor in Doctor Who, Bard the Bowman in The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies, Freddy Krueger in A Nightmare on Elm Street, General Thade in Tim Burton’s Planet of the Apes, Ray Charles in Ray, Danger D’Amo, Tick Tock, the Timekeeper and the henchmen in Spy Kids: All the Time in the World, Darth Maul in Star Wars, King Fergus in Brave, Gill in Finding Nemo, General Monger in Monsters vs Aliens, Nico in Rio, Lord Voldemort in The Lego Batman Movie. (No seriously, Toei uses the Leo Imagin if they want Den-O representation in a group shot of Big Bads. Likely because it’s much cheaper, likely because Kai is not that popular) |
So what I'm hearing, Die, is that you're going to have to go back and do Showa and dig deep for those character arcs.
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Do I really want that sort of final arc for Kamen Rider Die, though? Iffy. Definitely more of a possibility than yesterday, however. |
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Jokes aside, I’ve seen a few people on TokuTwitter (as that community calls itself) call Kai the weakest part of the show. He’s basically an evil Ryotaro, but without any Rider or Monster form to make the comparison work beyond “is a Singularity Point”. Plus there’s also the fact his plans are vague as hell and I’ve seen someone wonder why the show felt it needed a big bad after functioning without one well enough for so long (I personally think Toei mandates every show has to put a big bad character in there somewhere for a final battle). |
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Weird to bring him up now! Quote:
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Next you'll be telling me you don't think this is a masterpiece of science-fiction storytelling, smh.
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b) I didn't know Parado's actor's name. c) see "a)". Quote:
Momo's training of Ryotaro has a plot function, sure. Getting Ryotaro to be at least minimally competent is what Momo's after. But that scene is really there to drive home how much Momo cares for Ryotaro, how he wants to make sure his friend is safe if he's not there to protect him. It's Momo's pragmatism, looking at what a Den-O without the Imagin would be, and trying to solve that problem. He can't really deal with his emotions (because: Momo!), so he channels that sadness into something beneficial. Quote:
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Also, man, I get it now. I get Liner Form!
The DenLiner, for all of its capabilities, is just a vessel. It isn't the fighter, it's the thing that gets the fighters to the fight. It's nothing without the people inside of it. That's Ryotaro. He's just the suit that the Imagin wear. He isn't the fighter, he's the vessel. Liner Form is a suit where the vessel becomes the fighter, so of course it's Ryotaro wearing a DenLiner-themed costume. I get it now! A+ suit design! |
KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 38 - "THE KING TRAIN WITHIN THE TRAIN TERMINAL”
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/deno/den38a.png https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/deno/den38b.png Sometimes we don't get what we want. That's it. That's this story's lesson. Ryuta wants Airi to see him as a real brother, but she doesn't. Yuuto wants to be remembered, but he won't be. The end. There's something nicely realistic about this story that centers on an imagination monster from the end of time and a self-negating swordsman. Sometimes shit just doesn't work out. Sometimes we want things that are never going to happen. What do we do with that feeling? How do we move on? The answer here, so beautifully simple and real, is that you just do. You admit to yourself that you are always going to want that thing, and you accept that you can only dream of it. You just carry that weight. Maybe it's a burden, where the need for it drives you to anger or sadness. But maybe it can be a thing to aspire to, a way to bring your dream that little bit closer. Having Yuuto be the one to make that clear to Ryuta, not by a big speech, but just by his presence. Ryuta sees Yuuto as the one who is winning with Airi, and Yuuto is the one who's lost the most. But he doesn't let that destroy him. He accepts it, and moves on. If Yuuto can do that, maybe it's time for Ryuta to do the same. I mean, the first thing Ryutaros does after accepting that Airi isn't his sister is that he apologizes for everything he did over these two episodes, so, like, maybe it's going to be okay! It's hard, but so is growing up. With this story, the show is getting at a concept that its younger viewers can most relate to, which is a neat thing for these shows to do occasionally. Growing up means accepting that the world doesn't just exist to make us happy, and that sometimes we're going to have to deal with not getting everything we want. It sucks! It's not fun. But it's part of growing up, and we all have to do it. I mean, unless you're Den-Parado, who is living his best villain life. I cannot for the life of me imagine how someone could dislike this performance. He is not afraid of these do-gooders at all! Even a little! They're amusing when they're frustrated, and boring when they've got some spine. His first face-to-face showdown is him shrugging at some questions and laughing at others. He isn't here to monologue or exposit. He's here to finish his task and enjoy himself, in that order. Getting rid of the Riders is a step in that direction, but it's not like he's trying to torture them or anything. To put it in train terms, they're all just on parallel tracks. He doesn't care about what they're doing. I kinda loved that swing between Den-Parado's blitheness and Ryuta's grudging acceptance. It's this throughline of a feeling of equanimity, where all we can do is accept things and move on. It's another Den-O story where no one really wins, despite two rescued Liners and a detonated monster. Ryuta's humbled, Den-Parado is barely inconvenienced, and the train just keeps rolling along. Sometimes the victory is small, personal. Being that slight bit more able to handle our emotions, or get by with what we've got. Walking away from disappointment. That's nothing heroic, maybe, but it's part of getting better as people. That's it, and that's okay. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/deno/den38c.png THE BAGGAGE CAR -Okay, how the hell do Yuuto and Ryutaros end up back in the present?! They were both at the train platform in the future, they're fighting Den-Parado and the Lion Imagin (and Dance Dance Ryutalution) on a roof, and then Ryutaros is running to Milk Dipper. At what point did they leave the future and get back to the present? And how did they manage that without either the DenLiner or the ZeroLiner? I genuinely can't see how they managed it, so please fill me in on this plot point. -Having the majority of the train line exposition occur as Owner and Manager have a rice-eating contest (with timer!) was far-and-away the smartest version of that scene. It's a lot of vague Time Nonsense, where we're still just like Ooooh Mysterious Train Line, but it all being conducted over thrilling rice-eating maneuvers forgives a lot of its sins. |
Ah, Owner and his rice shenagins. I forgot just how late into everything he was introduced.
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Man, it is really hard to remind myself that was Hideo 9 years prior to playing the galactic nomad we now love and adore as Ultraman Orb. Man has not changed a bit.
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Seeing Ryutaros' delusion fall apart with him crying after Airi doesn't recognize him is one of the saddest moments I remember from this show. His delusion of taking Ryoutarou's identity as his own and Airi being his big sister made him feel less alone but even though he has good intentions, he can't be the Ryoutarou she knows. Now he has to deal with that truth, that playing pretend can't give him what he wants, which shows that there is a limit to what imagination can do. There is still that thing called reality which people have to fight and the reality for him is that he comes from a future without a family. That's not going to change unless he actually shows people who he really is. I have a lot of pity for him.
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That said, if there's one non-fight-geography problem in this episode (HOW DO RYUTAROS AND YUUTO LEAVE THE TRAIN TERMINAL), it's that this is another Airi story that doesn't have much use for Airi as a person. It's about Ryuta's feelings about Airi, and about Yuuto's feelings about Airi, but Airi doesn't get much of a voice in this story of two people treating her as a prize. Also incredibly sad! But for different reasons! |
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KAMEN RIDER DEN-O EPISODE 39 - “THE RIDER DISAPPEARS AS WELL”
https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/deno/den39a.png https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/deno/den39b.png Spent a couple minutes trying to figure out why I found this Yuuto episode so dull. I mean, I like Yuuto? I like the idea of Yuuto trying to get on with his life instead of pining over Airi? I like the idea of Yuuto trying to get on with his life instead of pining over Airi by going to a grocery store and wrestling Deneb because Deneb won’t stop putting Mushrooms in Yuuto’s food? That kind of storytelling is all over this episode, tons of little goofy-ass gags: the bit in the beginning where Momotaros is so psyched to get a chance at using Sword Form again to thrash some low-level Imagin that he forgets that he’s supposed to be demonstrating proper swordfighting technique to Ryotaro, so he asks the Imagin and Ryotaro to forget all of Momo’s exuberance and start over with a serious fight; Owner does spoon-flipping tricks, and then misses one, so he runs alongside the DenLiner for exercise; Yuuto kicks an empty bottle that hits Ryotaro in the face ten seconds later, dumping both of them down a hill; just so much fun nonsense in this episode. But then it’s Den-Parado’s scheme to get rid of Zeronos (if this show doesn’t want me to keep thinking of him as Parado, it needs to not put Kai in menacingly gleeful nighttime rooftop conversations with the episode’s monster-suited monster), and… I mean, it’s a bit much. Kind of checked out at that point. It’s just got a real Kicking Yuuto When He’s Down feeling to it, and I wasn’t into it. Yuuto’s already had his past obliterated, leaving him only a handful of people who’ll even remember him when he dies. He had just started to try and reconstruct his life, so here’s this episode to obliterate him as a student in the 90s. It feels unnecessary, stakes-wise. It’s like trying to steal something right before someone throws it away. Even killing Yuuto (or “killing” Yuuto) feels like salt in the wound for a guy who was already vanishing from existence before he was literally vanishing from existence. Like, man! Just let him have one dinner before you try to complicate his reality again! There’s a point the show is making with all of this Yuuto miserablism, which is why I feel like I’ll enjoy the next instalment better. Den-Parado responds to Ryotaro’s angry hero threats with a simple question: why shouldn’t some pasts be changed? What if the changes could be better? The proof of his argument is at the end of the episode, when Ryotaro returns to a Milk Dipper that’s no longer astronomy-themed and Airimirer-infested, but one that’s a flowery library full of women. And, look, I don’t know if the show’s trying to say Kai Was Right at the end of this one (I feel like Ryotaro’s devastated reaction says Nope), but seeing all the Airimirers swept away and replaced with a more welcoming, more energetic cafe? I will trade Yuuto for that! Den-Parado was right! Give Deneb a good home and do not rescue Yuuto’s past! And, yeah, I think the show is giving this new reality the slightest veneer of Better. Airi’s happiness isn’t worth nothing to Ryotaro, so seeing her no longer tortured and conflicted over Sakurai’s variable existence, that’s going to be something he won’t just want to destroy. There’s some obvious surface benefits to Sakurai not ever being in her life, even if the show’ll inevitably come down on the side of Please Get Along With Yuuto’s Existence. I respect the lead-in with things feeling objectively better, though. Fun twist on an altered reality. But the getting there! Not as much fun, even if I’m always glad to take a field trip back to the quarry. (Not that much quarry work this series! Bit of a bummer.) It’s just more shit the cosmos is piling on Yuuto, and Ryotaro’s righteous indignation isn’t enough to overcome how tired that plot is starting to feel. Yuuto, and the viewers, deserve better. https://kamenriderdie.com/images/kr/deno/den39c.png THE BAGGAGE CAR -I like the implication that the other Imagins never brought Den-Parado up to Ryotaro because Kai’s a dick and they hate him. He’s just some pushy jerk in their brains and they’re like No Thanks? That’s an appropriately character-driven reason for why there was this Big Bad that absolutely no one thought to mention before. He sucks! That’s it! -Den-Parado, obviously, does not suck. One of my favorite villain moves is when the villain forces a hero to break off a threat to go save some poor soul that the villain just put in jeopardy. He does it to both Ryotaro and Yuuto in this episode, and it’s great. It’s Den-Parado reminding the heroes of how far ahead of them he is, as well as how almost none of this matters to him. It’s Ryotaro saying that every life should be protected, and Den-Parado answering him with a shrug. He’s such a great adversary for Ryotaro. -Deneb bowing in apology to the soda he almost drank at the grocery store is adorable. -I can’t believe that I ended up with a bunny-themed Imagin on Easter! |
Oh hey, I’ll read the post in detail in a bit but this is where my stop was during my first trip with den-o. I watched up to 38, but never got to this for some reason.
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I’ll mention the rabbit Imagin is voiced by the same guy who voiced the tortoise one a while back. There’s a lot of reused VAs in these last few episodes, so I’m not feeling entirely bad about not being able to update you while I’m in the process of moving house.
I have three main takeaways from this two-parter, one of which I’ll mention after next episode, the other will be a few episodes down the line and the last when you (eventually) get to the Cho Den-O movies. |
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It perfectly illustrates what I love so much about the nature of Ryoutarou's character growth, which is how understated it is. He clenches his fist in anger and everything, but the words he says as still as soft as ever. Just a simple "I won't ever accept that", and at a volume only slightly higher than usual. Combined with the body language Takaiwa gives Liner Form, I've always found it fascinating how Den-O conveys the idea that Ryoutarou has learned to be more assertive and confident in himself by this point without any of his older traits ever really going away. It's a very particular take on the typical hero arc I find stands out. |
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Fun development for that kid! |
I'm trying to give Kai a reappraisal this time through, mostly because of Ultraman Orb. In the past I was always put off by his over-bearing goofiness, but it isn't bothering me as much this time. It's possible that some of the more contemporary comic relief has increased my tolerance, but so far I'm getting into him a lot more. The "what does my face look like" thing still gets kinda old, but I'm having more fun with viewing him as more of a puckish villain. I got a big charge out of him just randomly showing up while Ryotaro is just walking around. Also, I have to give him real props for having the cojones to say "Hey, this is a time travel show! Let's just kill Yuuto in the past to prove a point!"
It helps going back through the whole era, too, and realizing that it's been several shows now since we had a major villain that had a dynamic presence as a character. We've had characters that were dynamic but not threatening (Mishima), threatening but not dynamic (boss man from Blade), and enigmatic but not... anything (Hibiki). I'm down for having a villain who feels like he's engaged with the story again, even if the answer to "what is my face?" is usually "punchably obnoxious." |
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