spoilers for G-Gundam: Wong's making up new rules to test Domon because Master Asia wants him to pilot the Devil Gundam.

A single villain maybe although personally I think Ribbons outdid her by manipulating the entire world and Celestial Being behind the scenes for a decade;) and the Zanscare Empire in the UC timeline decimated the Federation and almost conquered Earth.

Glemy.

Has Vertical said anything on doing more Gundam related stuff? I think they've said the Origin was a success, but nothing's really come out of them since Volume 12 of Origin. Maybe a convention soon?

So we just finished G Gundam and I've got some mixed feelings on things and enjoyed others.

Positives:

Domon and Rain's relationship
George, Sai Saici, Chibody, and Argo
Gundam designs
Unique concept that was a nice break from the norm
Decent soundtrack
Great ending

Negatives:

Very repetitive
Final Round rules make no sense
Lackluster true villain
Animation can be quite lacking in areas
No backstory on the Shuffle Alliance whatsoever. Who are they? What do they do? When were they created? Why do they exist? What is the role of each member? Like what differentiates the categories? Is Joker better than an Ace? Why is the Queen a male character? Why couldn't they spend 2 episodes less in the Final Round to develop this?
Very little in the way of plot

Overall, I enjoyed the series, but this is a show that seems to better be left doing in chunks instead of watching hours upon hours of episodes in one sitting. It just gets too repetitious at times and none of the rules make a lick of sense. Nevertheless, like I said above, it was a unique concept and I'm glad that Sunrise tried to do something new even if it failed in some areas. There were some good matches here and the main characters were quite likable. I actually didn't see the truth with Rain's father happening, so that was a nice little twist. It isn't going to be anywhere near my favorite Gundam series, but it is a good one.

BTW, I do want to say that while the dub was good despite the annoying name changes (and some of them do not make any sense like why Lumber Gundam was changed to Grizzly Gundam, especially when they didn't change the subtitles to them), I do wish they had given the characters accents to match their countries. Like the British dude. Speaking of which, I'm confused on one thing. When he appeared in the Final Round they were talking as if he had died, but he didn't die unless it happened off screen. Was it meant to be metaphorically speaking?

Unicorn Re:0096 Episode 3

Can't find any differences in this episode. Except the redrawn hand again, of course. And they combined OVA episode 1 and 2's footage.

Lol at Micott looking like she doesn't give a shit when they're watching the Unicorn fight.

We watched 0080 this morning and I have to say that this was actually quite enjoyable. I saw it for the first time in Jan of 2000 and thought it was absolutely boring, so I have never watched it since. One of my friends owns it on DVD so I borrowed it from him and I am quite glad I did as it was a well written little story with a different perspective on the war, and one that was done intelligently. It isn't going to enter my top five favorite series, but it will be one I will now be buying on BD whenever Rightstuf gets around to it. I'm glad I gave it a second viewing, especially after so long, because it was worth it. It was also nice to see a Gundam OVA not feel like it was being dragged out unnecessarily.

I found a big list of links to where fan translated Gundam manga is available.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...4TXV--Acs/edit

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The new HG Force Impulse looks so good.

Oh hell yes. Right Stuf just put up pre-orders for their import of the Gundam Thunderbolt Blu-Ray set! This is fantastic news. Such a good show. When generic junk like Iron Blood is on I can always rest easy knowing a good OVA series is still getting to shine too. Already got my order in on this one.

1. What is Thunderbolt?
2. I thought IBO was supposed to be amazing?

Gentle Chapman (John Bull (Royal)/Grand Gundam's pilot) died early on in the series after his match with Domon in Neo England, of heart failure from overdosing on stimulants. So yeah, he was actually dead by the time of the tournament.

Let me google that for you...

Opinions are fun things.

They are! In my case I find that show terribly boring :lol

But hey to each their own. I also absolutely hated Reconguista and there are apparently a handful of true diehard fans of that show.

Thunderbolt on the other hand is a treasure.

Meh… couldn’t bother with Thunderbolt beyond episode 1, terrible art-style and god awful, unfitting music.

Guess it’s an artistic vision that I can’t enjoy, but I liked Iron Blooded Orphans a lot more.

I heard there's a dub and new footage. So it'll defintley be worth it.

1 Thunderbolt is a series of 20 minute OVAs having been released since December, with the final part, part 4, having just come out. It takes place during the end of the One Year War, and focuses on the conflict of Federation and Zeon over a supply route in the Thunderbolt sector, basically the wreckage of Side 4 with some weird plot convienent lightning.

2 I think IBO is okay to good. The first 5 episodes to me were really great, and a few episodes after that were good. Episode 24 was the best episode of the show, promptly ruined by 25. Its character development is good, but some of the stuff took way too long then it should have. And the action scenes were few and far between. I appreciate the people working on the show feeling liks they have to shove fights in every once in awhile just because, but it defintley felt missing.

I wouldn't call Thunderbolt a treasure but it's good. Hopefully the new Blu-ray can add enough footage to fix my two major problems with the show, the absurdly fast pace and cut out backstory from the manga. Thunderbolt's stuff about Side 4 is really a good expansion of Gundam lore, and from what I've seen prior to episode 4, stuff about Moore's wealth and loyalty to the Federation haven't been mentioned.

Thunderbolt's art is better if you see the similarity to Jo Jo's Bizarre Adventure lol. As fod the music, I don't see how its bad. There was the intial teaser trailer with the awful blaring, but other than that, I find it fine.

G Gundam is getting a blu-ray release in Japan. I hope the US gets it release soon.

Well sorry, I thought this was a Gundam thread where we discuss Gundam. I was just asking, that is all.

lol

I know, but I was curious as to what Den-O didn't like about it since everyone else has said it is the best Gundam series since 00 and was amazing.

BTW, Reconquista G sucked. I couldn't even get through two episodes.

According to Rightstuf from several months back, they have to wait 18 months from the time a Gundam series is released on BD in Japan before they can bring it out in the US.

Is Mobile Suit Gundam: The Origin a direct remake of the original or does have several differences between the two?

Well the comic is a sort of re-telling on the original, it providing more detailed artwork and a bit more character focus. The OVA is based on a large chunk of the comic which focuses on how Char and Sayla were brought up and Char's involvement with Zeon before the original show starts.

The Origin manga is a remake of the Original Gundam show. Mainly rearranging certain events and expanding minor characters. But within it, there was a backstory on Char and Sayla before the One Year War.

The Origin OVA is the backstory portion of the manga animated.


What he said lol.

https://twitter.com/YS_HONTEN/status/724077901491003393

Man, MG Freedom 2.0 looks outstanding.

Unicorn Re:0096, episode 4.

*Cracks knuckles*

This episode was so bad, it made me realize this reedit of Unicorn is just sloppy. As if people complaining about awkward cuts and spoilery opening and ending, this episode just threw me over the edge. The recap is really long, like 4 minutes, and they spoil a plot twist from the end of the episode in the revap. The fuck? I've heard of episode titles spoiling things but a fucking recap? Also, way to remove any subtlty from the story by telling us exactly why Syam is letting the box go.

Sunrise, I am severly disapponited in you. I've seen bad things from Gundam (Moon Moon arc from ZZ), I've seen lazy (2 clipshows during Wing), but sloppy? I never would have considered it until now. This shows that Sunrise sincerely does not care about getting people to watch Unicorn again. That it was just farted out to hold a timeslot for Sunrise until they had something to put in. They treat the audience simutaneously like morons yet Unicorn experts. I even doubt we're even going to get new footage for this show, since they could just fill up the standard 25-26 episode que with stupidly long recaps.

Well I'm going on a multi hour trip soon, and my plan for it since I'll have my phone is esstentially to marathon iron blooded orphans and form my own opinion on it since I've heard a lot of mixed things about it, particularly the characters and plot, haven't heard anyone complain about the music so yay
Edit: and from the bit of the show I have watched the music is pretty good so yay... I guess

Honestly what were you expecting?

Something not shit?

It's an OVA chopped up and stretched out to 25 30 minute episodes.

Where you expecting quality from that?

Where in that does it excuse "spoiling the fucking ending" in episode four?

"Chopped up OVA".

They at least could have done a better job than this.

I've never seen it done well hence I always expect mediocrity.

Wow, glad I decided to just finish getting the OVA version to Unicorn then. I'm not even going to waste my time on the TV version.

Anyway, we watched the first 8 episodes to Turn A today. So far they have been pretty enjoyable, but it seems like this was never meant to be a Gundam show. Was that the case? Or did Tomino make it to be a Gundam show from the start? It just seems so different and in a good way, as it does deviate from the norm. The animation is really nice and the soundtrack kicks all kinds of all. Not sure how I feel about the design of the Gundam though, not to mention the fact that they keep calling him the machine with the mustache. Nevertheless I'm looking forward to see more of where this show is going, at least as long as Harry does NOT wear anything outside of his uniform ever again. :-)

My anime and manga club at my local community college is doing Mecha day tomorrow. Which Gundam show would for the best for people that never saw Gundam? We have people that never seen anything Gundam releated and most of our members grew up with G Gundam and Wing. Our members are pretty fine with older anime before the 2000's.

Gundam 00 has a pretty action packed and exciting first episode if you just want to show that. Or just show the 1st 0079 movie.

Gundam 00, Iron blooded orphans, or something else entirely Gundam Build Fighters Season One.

Yeah, dude, I get it, but that still doesn't excuse this. It's not just chopped up, it's rewritten and fucked with order-of-events wise. You can just keep repeating yourself but you seem to be completely ignoring the issue.

But at least mediocrity isn't as bad as basically ruining the plot twist.

See Zeta A New Translation it isn't the first time that's happened.

I fail to see an issue personally it's just another cobbled together re-edit of a previous show/OVA they've done it since the 80s sometimes a show benefits from it *Seed* most of the time though it's pointless and utter shit.

Bandai probably assumes everyone already knows about it either from the novel or OVA and also most likely just don't care since they have no incentive to put effort into this no new toys to sell and IBO is the current flagship series it's just a way to fill in a timeslot.


0079,8th MS Team or 00 if you want to properly introduce them to Gundam as a war drama otherwise Build Fighters.

Wow, so the Unicorn TV version is as bad as the Zeta movies? That IS bad. Like really bad. Like you might as well just drop a colony on my face bad.

Zeta Gundam. It's the best for a reason.

I didn't recommend Zeta as a first series because it's a sequel.

0080.

We end up doing Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans for my anime and manga club at my local community college. A lot of people like it that even the people that never watch Gundam wanted to check out more. We did the first two episodes because we like to save time for other shows (We also watch non-Gundam mecha anime like Shin Mazinger Z Impact, IGPX, Voltron, Martian Successor Nadesico and Big O). I thought the first two episodes of Iron-Blooded Orphans was pretty good. I do want to check out the rest later. I haven't seen a full Gundam show from start to finish since Seed on Toonami.

Yeah, but you will still be in the dark as to exactly what is going on at first with any of the other series regardless, so you might as well go with the best.

Anyway, we just watched 9-16 of Turn A. The show is still enjoyable, but there are a lot of things that are getting confusing. It seems like there are things happening between episodes that we are supposed to just know happened. For example, Kihel and Soliel switch identities. In the next episode, you see one of them back at Soliel's ship and the other is at the Heim home. What you don't know is that they never switched back until the following episode, so Kihel is actually running the Moonrace while Soliel is traveling around with Loran. Also, Soliel doesn't even seem to be shocked that Loran is the Gundam's pilot even though she was told it was a girl named Laura. Then she runs into some dude who looks like someone she used to love, but it turns out he is the grandson. How is that even possible? Do they age slowly when living on the moon? It's never explained or anything.

Anyway, the confusion aside and the fact that episode 16 was a friggin clip show, it has been enjoyable. It isn't anywhere near being the greatest Gundam series, but so far, it is definitely a great one. Way better than Wing G, and 0083.