Well unlike the others you mentioned you are supposed to hate Katejina.:lol

But I should be hating her for betraying Uso and gang. The problem is, she was not developed in the slightest. She just joins Zanscare and becomes a soldier off-screen and falls in love with Cronicle off-screen. Why? What were her motivations? What drove her to be this way? I don't get it. There was NOTHING that explained this at all. If she didn't exist they wouldn't even have to change the writing of the show because she brought nothing to it. She didn't do anything important except lead a swim team in the second last episode because fanservice quota.

I'll have to remember to take pics of all my Gundams once I get a few from storage and get them displayed but my collection grows every paycheck it seems XD

In order because Chronicle saved her from being gangraped when she was first captured by Zanscare,she got taken in by the matriarchal rhetoric of the Zanscare empire and she resented having to play mom for Uso before the war started and started to hate him because in her mind his attempts to rescue her was him trying to take away her happiness and well she was batshit crazy at the end.

And that scene was less about fanservice and more Tomino being as absurd as possible as a giant middle finger to Sunrise/Bandai.

You put far more thought in that paragraph than the show put into its 51 episodes when dealing with her.

BTW, where did all of this talk about Uso being Char's grandson come from? There is nothing in the show that says he is related to Char at all.

This thread could always use more pics!

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Actually I got that all from the wiki.:lol

From what I've heard that was the initial plan in the early concepts of Victory Gundam and why Uso's mother has Miguel*as in Nanai Miguel* as her last name. But it was later dropped.

Funnily enough Katejina's voice actress is married to Seabook Arno's voice actor.

Still working my way through 0079. Sleggar died, I saw that one coming from a mile away. Also, we're starting to finally get hints at Newtypes, so that's cool.

So someone did a fantastic photoshop of the infamous "He is a CHAR" letter from Zeta to be about Vidar.

http://i.imgur.com/BZDbPeU.jpg

BTW, Rightstuf now has the first Blu-Ray to Turn A instock.

I finally finished War in the Pocket last night.

WELL. That was... wholesome.

We watched the first 5 episodes of Iron Blooded Orphans on Crunchyroll tonight, which is where we ended up leaving off when it was airing on Toonami. I have to say that I'm not sure if it was having it subbed or just watching them all in a row, but I enjoyed them a lot more this time around. I actually do prefer Orga's Japanese voice to his English one (which I believe is JYB if I remember correctly). As for Mika, I think both voices fit the character perfectly fine. The animation is pretty nice too and the music kicks ass. I think this is the first time a Gundam show has both an opening and closing song I enjoy. In addition, the closing song make me think of something out of a Bond movie.

Looking forward to watching another batch of them tomorrow.

That still wouldn't work though. Char would have to be his great grandpa because Uso's parents would have to be in the 60s during this show, and they are clearly no where near that age.

Yeah, I like Johnny, but he's absolutely the wrong guy to voice Orga. What I find equally tragic is that I think he'd be a perfect match for Eugene instead. Like, looking at him I keep expecting Johnny's voice for some reason I can't quite pin down.

We watched episodes 6-16 today of IBO and despite a few of the obvious tropes, it's getting better as it goes along. To be quite honest though, was this supposed to be something else that they decided to throw the Gundam branding onto? Not that I have a problem with it being a Gundam series because it brings in some new flavors to the tired franchise, I just wonder if that was the case.

I really liked the funeral episode that dealt with Akihiro and Shino. Although, I've gotta say that if there is one thing I'm really resonating with it's the aspect that blood born family members are total garbage while the friends you make your family are your true family.

On the other hand, we have hit a new opening and ending theme song and I have no idea why they felt the need to change them. These new versions are not only inferior to the previous ones, but they're not even that good, especially the ending theme which is dreadful to listen to. The music doesn't even fit with the scenes that are occuring at the end of the episode before the credit sequence starts popping up. Also, I really do not like Kudelia as she has character shields to the max. How the hell can an entire street full of people get killed, but she ends up being the only survivor? That's BULL****!!

I love how the mobile suits in this show actually have armor on them that works. The fights with the space pirates were pretty awesome and you could feel the metal on metal action. That was great. Oh, and I really like Naze. He's probably my favorite character right now.

I don't think so? There was an old mech anime that can out around the same time as the MSG movies did called Dougram. Some elements in IBO like collecting parts to use on Barbatos are similar to stuff that occurred in Dougram. But other than that comparison I've heard, nothing really.

Okay, I was just curious. Anyway, we're going to be continuing over venture into the first season in just a little bit. YAY!!!

How many episodes of Seaosn 2 have aired so far?

13 I believe.

We finished the first season and HOT DAMN! that was some truly amazing stuff. The last 9 episodes were down right terrific and this show will end up being even better than 00 provided they don't screw it up in its second season.

First I need to say that Mika and Kudelia are a far better Heero and Relena than Heero and Relena were. Mika is just a ruthless killer, which is what Heero was advertised to be, but it was never shown. I also love how he is willing to do anything Orga asks of him without question. Kudelia, while not that great of a character, ends up showing balls during the second half of the show and what she wants and expects comes off a lot more realistic and natural than that bullshit pacifism Relena tried to shove down our throats. Oh, and right now, McGillin is shaping up to be the best Char clone ever. He and Naze are my top favorite characters in the show thus far and I love how relentless he was in this season. He outdid Char in the betrayal aspect, which was well done and developed. PLEASE DON'T MESS HIM UP IN SEASON 2!!!!!!

I'm really liking the Barbatos too. It also helps that the mobile suit battles in this show feel brutal and realistic. It adds to the tone they were going for, which is how mech battles should be. I think Thunderbolt and 0080 might be the only other Gundam shows to display the ferocity these battles bring. In fact, I get the same feeling from these battles as I got with Star Wars Rogue One. This is a war and not theater. It also helps that the score is outstanding and all of the characters are great.

With that said, BRING ON SEASON 2!!!!

For all the praise it's getting IBO is basically bombing in Japan*It's apparently on par with G-Reco ratings wise* and I've heard it's Toonami showings did pretty badly too*which might explain the hiatus*.

I'm 5 episodes into Zeta. It's pretty good so far.

It's on hiatus on Toonami because it finished its first season and Unicorn is now airing. I even had a whole disappointment discussion about this a few pages back. :lol

Also, I don't see how ratings mean the show is bombing one bit. Ratings don't mean jack anymore when there are things like DVR and streaming.

Star Trek and 0079 bombed too. Ratings and quality are not intertwined.

Otherwise The Big Bang Theory would be worth watching.

Well if Gundam is anything like Super Sentai, Gunpla/Toy Sales are probably the only thing that really matters to them.

Well, if no one is watching the show, then no one wants to get the gunpla from said show, so they are a bit more intertwined.

I saw Episode 1 of Unicorn on Toonami and I thought it was cool.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1xC2ljUoAAG6XL.jpg

Almost done painting my Wing Gundam Fince Rinascita. Kinda screwed up on the white, but I am happy with the final result.

All that effort and time to put it in a more boring color scheme.

I'm only half-joking, I can see the skill here, but... it's like seeing someone craft a 1 to 1 likeness of David in manure.

To be fair, I prefer the regular Fenice anyway.

Hey, no offence taken. I'm not exactly 100% happy with this either. Any criticism I can take is good in my book lol

So now the hard part comes, how do I stretch the first 13 episodes of IBO's second season out long enough so I really don't have to watch the last few episodes week by week until it's done? Honestly, I don't because I'm too impatient to be able to pull that stunt off. But, we did manage to only settle with the first 4 episodes tonight, and they were good. None of the new characters really grip me so far though. Hush kind of feels like they need to give Mika some competition because they ran out of ideas for him.

I do love the upgraded Barbatos though. That was pretty cool.

Oh, and Iron Mask 2.0 is totally Galeo.

Anyway, I was really impressed with the Godfather-esque scene between Orga and Allium. That was a pretty bad ass scene. The fight in space was awesome awesome.

That's really all I have to report on the matter since it was only 4 episodes. Fortunately, we won't have time to watch any more for the next few nights, so that will buy us some time, but it's not really going ot be much as I expect we will be caught up to what has aired by this time next week. On the positive side, I won't have to worry about stepping into spoilers.

Wow backhanded compliment much?

More like trying to compliment the actually good parts of a piece I don't like.

It's like being able to tell that a horror movie is good while still hating horror movies. I don't like it, but for the intended audience I'm sure it hits exactly what they're looking for. Mostly because those things are why I don't like it.

It looks like Hollywood try to make a Gundam movie in the early 80's. It would have been cool to see how this movie would have turn out.

http://www.zimmerit.moe/when-gundam-came-to-hollywood/

That's a shame. Maybe it's excessive violence is excluding younger viewers?

:lol No truer words spoken.

Yup. If models are selling the show could be the biggest piece of shit ever and it'd be no problem.

Just look at how many Build Figh... I mean SEED kits they make. :D

Not even remotely true. Most Gundam collectors don't even buy models of just the shows they like. Hell, I hate Gundam Wing, and own seven Master Grades from it.

Shows never impact toy sales, it's the opposite. Poor toy sales lead to cancellations, as shows are, financially speaking, merely advertisments. But toys can stand on their own, they're what make the actual money, and what can be appreciated standalone.

Classy. Dunno about you guys, but I love spending hours of work on something I like and then having people literally compare it to shit.

We agree on that, at least.

G-Saviour

Right, but then you said:


And THEN you said:


I own two SEED kits and my feelings towards it and Destiny are well documented and filed under "Intense Burning Hatred"

Funny thing Japan adores Seed to this day but they hated Wing back in the day.

Dunno why Wing was basically SEED in the 90s complete with yaoi bait for fangirls.

Yeah, and? Do any of those three statements contradict each other at all?

First I agreed quality and ratings are not intertwined. Likewise, I said the quality of a show does not expressly determine the sale of model kits. Basically, a tv show's quality in no way has to directly reflect or influence its financial success/failure in any regard. It can of course, but it isn't an iron-clad rule. A good show can rate horribly and sell zero model kits, or a shit show could rate wonderfully and sell kits like crazy, or any combination of the three.

No, just pointing out you said truer words have never been spoken. Then you made two statements that are individually equal to my one, thus you spoke several more- It was funny when I typed it.

yeah for some reason sunrise/bandai decided IBO, with all it's lack of child friendliness, would be a great fit for what is basically a saturday morning cartoon slot.

I don't see how. Kids love things like this.