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I wonder if the cast of Adventure 02 will show up? I always like the cast members of that season, so I hope they are not gone for good.
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Did Adventure really need a second sequel?
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It's a shame that America won't get the show for a while since we are few years behind Xros Wars unless Saban chooses to skip part 3 of Xros Wars and goes straight to the new show instead. If they dub the new show then I hope Saban tries to bring back the original cast.
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But nostalgia and all that. |
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The first Digimon season is the season that got people into the franchise and made it popular. Digimon Season 1 to Digimon is pretty much what MMPR is to Power Rangers.
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Vikemon is supposed to symbolize Cody/Iori's connection to Joe, hence the Zudamon like appearance, similar to how Valkyriemon for Hawkmon is both divine in nature, like Gatomon's higher forms, and is more bird themed than a mythological Valkyrie is depicted due to Hawkmon's nature and Yolei/Miyako's connection to Sora. Plesiomon was used in the Wonderswan games (with Ryo) as Gomamon's official Mega form, though I won't tell you that you're wrong if you prefer Vikemon, both of them are pretty cool. In short, Digimon is weird like that, and the fact that they're actually using Pleisiomon instead of Vikemon for the game is one of the few things that I like about it as of now. |
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I think the Digimon fighting game on the PS3 and 360 looks like fun. I do wish Namco Bandai release on the game on a better release date since it comes out the same week as Smash Bros on the Wii U and the remakes of Pokemon G3. Not to mention the marketing for the game looks like shit so far.
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Well of course we're getting Adventure/02-based things now; it's their 15th anniversary since their animals debuted. I doubt anything beyond them will get as much but we can still wait for Tamers-Xros Wars extras when their anniversaries hit.
And yeah, that game makes me sad. It's being made & released for last gen systems only. Obviously you can still play them on the newer ones but the fact that we aren't getting them on there as the standard shows just how low off a budget Digimon unfortunately has. |
Digimon Adventure debuted in '99...2015 is their 16th anniversary...
If they can bullshit for when their anniversary years are, then why can't they do so for Tamers, Frontier, etc etc? |
Because 2015 is 02's anniversary. Adventure & 02 are the same timeline & universe. You can't do a season with the Adventure kids being 17-or-so without acknowledging 02's events since it's gonna take place after 02. And the more I think about it the more I believe this was intentional. Imagine if we had the celebratory season last year with just Adventure & then this year would've been the one with 02.....only the Adventure cast is 2/3 of the 02 cast. Meaning the Adventure people would technically have 2 specials in a row which would be repetitive & exhausting.
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But we're not celebrating 02. Hell, if I recall, Frontier is the first series to be entirely disconnected from Adventure, so if they were to pull a 15th anniversary bullshit with every series, why not toss Tamers in? Despite not appearing in 02, Ryo is just as big a part of Adventure, playing into a large part of Ken's backstory.
I honestly don't care if Adventure gets a second sequel (I may question the point, but I'm still going to watch). But to use it as a justification to disregard the remainder of the franchise as "Just wait another 3-7 years for their anniversaries!" and pander near exclusively to one series is what's bringing my piss to a boil. |
Tamers ties to the Adventure series always geniuly confused me.
Seeing as i just bought a PS3 this week i think i'll pick up the game. |
I don't see getting mad about it being the right reaction. Just because people like us would doesn't mean we are the majority. Focusing on the Adventure/02 is just the natural conclusion since we'd be going in order, plus it's the most recognizable to the general public. If this anniversary gets enough support & attention then the companies may be more inclined to do this again some other time with other seasons in mind. And it's not like they neglect those other seasons on purpose. If anything, Digimon does a better job of expanding attention throughout their franchise than others I've been a part of. If they only cared about Adventure/02 then we wouldn't have had other seasons represented in Hunters, Figuarts, video games, etc.
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I'm naturally biased, as, during my rewatch of Adventure and 02, I had to force a sit through. They were both just...Uninteresting and dull. It honestly felt like they didn't deserve the attention they tended to get over series like Tamers or Savers. |
A Tamers anniversary is actually a terrible thing to think about really. Either it doesn't happen & people who think Tamers is flawless just because its darker (when it has plenty of flaws) stay bitter & hate everything Digimon is associated with or it happens but the die-hard Tamers fans won't accept it just because Chiaki J. Konaka (the main writer for Tamers) more than likely won't have anything to do with it. It's put on such a pedestal by fans that no matter what's done with it it'll be dead-on-arrival.
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To call a series flawless would be irresponsible and just shows how little the viewer knows.
I know Tamers has it's flaws, and I don't place it on a pedestal because it's darker. I do so because it's not just a romp through candy land that suddenly goes dark during the final 10 episodes because it wanted to. It set a tone and, despite the dub fucking up royal occasionally, kept it. Tamers also didn't operate on the idea that 2 characters should be focused on and the rest existed solely to build them up as gods amongst the group. Do I like Tamers too much? Fine. Will a Tamers anniversary be horrible because it's not perfect? Fine. I don't really care. Digimon isn't just Adventure, and it hasn't been since 2001. |
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Agreed. I just fear that the turnout for a Tamers, Frontier, Data Squad/Savers & Fusion/Xros Wars anniversary won't be as big as the Adventure/02 one because they aren't as notable to the masses. Plus the division in the fandom on those 4 seasons wouldn't help matters, since outsiders looking in would see us stationed fans with all our split feelings & thoughts about them; they themselves wouldn't feel like the others are worth their time. If die-hards like us won't appreciate things the franchise does then not that many other people will, you know?
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If someone wants to hear opinions on a given season and there are equal amounts of established fans that say its good and that its bad most people will just, you know, watch the season and decide for themself. |
You're forgetting that most franchises have that little thing where fans, constant or forlorn, will perceive the first installment as the best. Anniversaries are made for this reason. The amount of people that like/hate Adventure is not as even as you think when you factor in all the people who, to them, that's the only season of Digimon that exists since that's all they saw. So this isn't to please us fans that have stuck with the franchise for so many years, rather it's a quick cashgrab from the people who will undoubtedly follow it (many of us die-hards) & a significant portion of the general public who know Adventure & only Adventure. The reason 02 gets a pass is because it's part of the same timeline & universe & where the creators wanna take Adventure next fits in with 02. Tamers onward you start to lose a good number of people because that big push you got from the nostalgia-only audience will dwindle the second they so much as touch Tamers. We have to keep in mind just how small the Digimon fandom actually is because if it was big enough to please Bandai & Toei we would've had more than 12 characters on the game. The game would've also been current-gen instead of last-gen like we're getting. We wouldn't have had two 3-4 year hiatuses between Frontier, Data Squad/Savers & Fusion/Xros Wars. Not to mention Frontier, Data Squad, Fusion & the replays of Adventure, 02 & Tamers would actually be on more easily accessible channels as opposed to just Toon Disney & Nicktoons. That's how small this fandom is, so things that we are segregated on, like a potential anniversary for Tamers or Frontier,can't be given too much effort because their won't be enough of a profit made out of it. To be quite honest, I'm still shocked we're actually getting this current anniversary considering how the "last one" turned out. So if a longterm, mainstay fan like myself is surprised that the nostalgia magnet season is getting this current treatment then you have a good idea of just what shape this franchise is in. I'm no authority on the matter by any means, but I guarantee I wasn't the only person surprised that Bandai & Toei are actually giving this much attention to Digimon again. I just hope that whatever it is they do from here on out is well-recieved. And that's the problem: I'm afraid that it won't be due to the nature of how media is so easy to get hooked into for a short amount of time (Adventure) but not in the long run (02-Xros Wars/Fusion) by the masses.
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You're speaking as if Adventure should be considered a godsend. That if we don't give Adventure a certain level of praise, Digimon would have been long since dead.
Look at the Pokemon fandom as a comparison, not in terms of popularity, but in how it operated. The staggering amount of people who will come and say how "Gen 3 was my jumping on point" proves that you don't have to be an alpha fan of a franchise to still enjoy it. You're speaking as if Digimon is primarily fueled by nostalgia, not new fans tuning in to a new Digimon series. |
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I think Digimon Season 2 is more recognizable than the original adventures season, You really can't get Veemon out of your head :lol
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I know Ophanimon is the more popular choice, but why when we already have Magnamon confirmed as Gatomon's final evolution in Adventure?
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Sue me for getting two names confused. Not like I watched that Touchdown movie. |
I have to wonder why they were so lazy with the two names.
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At least going by google it seems the pic has existed since at least 2013... so yeah... go fake rumors... Quote:
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The power of bewbs is fearsome. |
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But yes, Magnadramon was already shown, so... |
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Just that it's odd they didn't use the canon evolution of Gatomon. |
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