Re-reading The Wheel of Time and the Honor Harrington series concurrently. On A Crown of Swords and War of Honor, respectively.

Yep, it was very resolved. Like The Big Bad or the entire first half of the series and the first three or so arcs of Part 2 being... Where? And he's not even going to be featured in the "Pair the Spares" movie!

No, the series was just bad for ages with bloated filler-filled "epic" battles, completely stagnant character development and a predictable, boring plot that was terrified in taking absolutely any risks and literally everything that happened having zero consequences. 99% of characters ended the series exactly how they began a series and when you're writing a plot-driven "ensemble" story like Naruto that's 700 chapters long, that's just unacceptable. I don't need to get over myself, that's just the way it is. There's nothing wrong with enjoying it and you don't need to feel bad about it (I enjoy heaps of bad stuff too) but nope, it's been badly written for a long, long time. I'm not gonna pretend it was anything but sucky because it might hurt your feelings that someone thinks it sucked. Just go on GameFaqs or something if you can't handle opposing opinions! I'm sure there's heaps of 12 year olds that thought it was well-written that can share happy feelings about the ending.


I kept with it, as I said, because I started reading back in 2006 when I was 14 and wanted to see how it ended. It's just a weekly manga that's like 13 pages long (with each chapter having the events of like 3 pages for the last four years or so), so its not like its difficult to get through. However I'm stupid but not masochistic. There's no way I'll force myself through the announced "Part 3" because I owe it to myself to stop.

Nobody forced me to follow it to the end, it was a choice I made. I did really, really enjoy it back in Part 1 and early Part 2.


I dunno, I think the "Babies Ever After" ending was perfectly generic and predictable and therefore a perfect ending for a series that takes zero risks like Naruto. Was anyone really expecting anything better then "pair everyone up and make them have babies with the exact same personalities as one of their parents each"?

Naruto was one of those things for me at least that it sort of devolved and got more boring and worst as time went on. Honestly the last time I even cared was right before the war started and Sasuke attacked the other Hokages. After that I just gave up on the series and only read snippets of what was happening every so often. It's a series that while I look back and still enjoy the parts that I really liked, it's a series I have no interest in ever reading it again unless it's those specific moments.

I agree completely. Especially the Hokage Summit part. That was around the time I stopped actually caring or having any emotional response to the characters too.

I've got similar feelings. Though I'm nothing but supportive of extra materials & stories since I think it's a chance to fix mistakes the main series had. That's why I enjoy filler & video games with original stories of various franchises so much; you can introduce new concepts & characters that give fans more options to choose from & potentially enjoy.

Yeah, I'm still a big fan of the Ultimate Ninja and Clash of Ninja games, in fact they've probably been a big factor in my continuation of the series, although I've learned to skip every second instalment because of CyberConnect's bizarre "new game every year" contract.

Wait, so in Naruto Hinato, the only bad ass character in the series, marries and have a child with Naruto... My god, it is Harry Potter's ending all over again and Naruto is Jenny Weasley.

All this Naruto talk makes me wonder how the shippers are handling the ending because those reactions are going to be priceless.:lol

Naruto Sakura shippers are crying.

It was just like Harry Potter, honestly. Actually, more like Digimon Adventure 2.0 in that the characters were just randomly paired off. Their children all are weird fusions of their parents. One parents face, one parents hair color and then given one of their parents personalities.

Naruto and Hinata- Son the same as Naruto in almost every way, even called Boruto (ugh), daughter looks like Hinata with whiskers
Sasuke and Sakura (Sakura was just written so awfully... Such a regressive character arc)- Daughter looks like Sakura with black hair and glasses. Personality the same as Sakura.
Shikamaru and Temari- Son who's identical to Shikamaru but with Temari's eyes. Same personality as Shikamaru.
Ino and Sai- Sai turns out NOT to be the only gay character in a sea of straight. Sigh. Son with Ino's personality that looks like Sai with blonde hair.
Chouji and Karui (these two characters were never on the same panel prior to time-skip)- Chubby Karui with Chouji's stereotypical "I'm fat" personality traits
Rock Lee and ???: Son identical to Rock Lee