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Is it bad that I wanna vote Caucasus just because I really wanna see Kabuto? :confused:
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Diend would sweep this battle. He's got a virtual army, he can cloak himself, he's a competent close range fighter and he has good long range attacks. Throw in Compete Form and you got one dangerous foe for both Agito and Caucasus.
Plus he's not above exploiting his opponents. But he's going to have his work cut out for him. Agito is very strong and he needs to bring his A game. |
but think this through i haven see the first only diend so like other people he has power of summon rider for his fight so he would win hands down and he is good at fighting include his complete form you got a winner. Diend all the way for me
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DiEnd. He can summon other riders, that's pretty much the end.
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I'm going with Agito on this. DiEnd isn't a fighter, he's a thief. He can summon a bunch of Riders, but he usually just uses them as a distraction before he runs away. DiEnd's not made for a big fight; once shit starts getting series he'll toss out some Riotroopers, use Invisible, and then get the hell outta there. That leaves Agito and Caucasus. I do not know anything about Caucasus, as God Speed Love is one of the Rider movies I've never gotten around to seeing (I'm kinda meh on Kabuto as a series). He doesn't seem to really have much outside of the Hyper Zecter, though, and Agito's got a pretty good arsenal of close-range weapons and abilities. I know that the Hyper Zecter does have some crazy Hyper Clock-Up abilities, but Agito has Shining Form and Shining Form is pretty hax. If Agito can defeat God in Shining Form, I like his odds against a movie Rider.
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well diend does have a reason to fight.he could always try to rob his oppnents when hes done. he tried to do it to faiz.
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So that leads me to question how far we go into the mindsets of the Riders.
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Here's how the battle would go down:
Diend will steal Caucasus' trump card, his Hyper Zecter (because Agito is kind of fussed with his powers). Then Diend will run away, forfeiting his stake in the match (Don't believe me? watch All Riders vs DaiShocker. He does exactly this, but with Amazon's arm thingie). Agito then wipes to floor with Caucasus' face. Agito wins, Diend is a coward, and Caucasus is a sh!t outta luck. |
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Realistically, that's exactly how I could see it going down :lol
Oh well, I don't regret my vote :D |
ok, the Diend bailing thing...yeah yeah yeah...but this is a fight...
I still say Diend will win. He'd cloak, have Agito wear Caucasus down, then blind side him with his own troopers, when Caucaus is finally worn out, Diend would appear behind him and final attack ride him... |
I'm voting Diend here. While it's true he's more of a thief than a fighter, I think if he had a solid reason to fight, he'd win.
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To not go too insane, I just want to point out that slowing time to the point that it's perceived as stopped to a being in Clock Up is kinda hard to blatantly defeat.
Diend's "Army" consists of 3 weaker than usual riders at a time. |
Well, since I create these things, I'll put my input for each Rider throughout the thread.
Starting with DiEnd- Most likely, he'll start off with Invisible. While Agito and Caucasus fight, DiEnd will FFR Agito into Agito Tornader and attack Caucasus with him. While Caucasus is distracted, DiEnd will summon J, and just have him stomp on Caucasus until he's unconscious. Agito, still the Tornader, will suddenly regain control and attack DiEnd's J till it fades away. On the ground however, DiEnd will have entered Complete form, and with all the movie Riders he summons (excluding Caucasus), will use his FAR and the finishers of the other riders to take Agito out. Stay tuned for my input on Agito on this fight |
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EDIT: And Diend's army are knock offs that can be dissipated fairly easily. The Rio Troopers alone are normally taken out moments after summoned. EDIT2: And I just realized that all of Diend's attack rely on his gun. One off guard punch from either of the other two would knock his gun out of his hand. Diend is now more useless than the Decade version of Kuuga. Bottomline: Diend's weaknesses are huge. |
DiEnd. He'll just summon up an army of Riotroopers as a distraction, chill in a corner while invisible, then, when everyone else is tired, steal the Hyper Zecter, Hyper Clock Up, and snipe everyone in the head at the moment before they begin to henshin (as well as stop a time paradox by givving the DiEnd of the past the Hyper Zecter of the Caucasus of the past and instructing him to travel back and do the same).
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Also, everyone casually speaks of Diend taking Caucasus's Hyper Zector, when Diend is one of the few Riders who's had his Transformation device stolen while he was holding it >:I |
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Unlike things like Bashaa fever, which we can confirm exists despite having never seen it, because of Garulu Fever and Dogga Fever, Diend has never summoned more than 3 riders, and showed no ability to do so. He wasn't Basco summoning wave after wave of characters :P His Gekijouban card did summon 9, but that was only as a part of Complete form, and we don't know if they have the same limitation as Decade complete (One Hissatsu before fading. No additional fighting) The assumption that Diend summoning an army is unfair if he never did so. |
I'm voting DiEnd. I don't remember if it's just Decade that can Clock Up, but if he can, then major advantage, against Agito at least. Plus, the whole summoning thing works for him.
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I'm starting to enjoy how people are making up new abilities for DiEnd. This is what I excepted in W 's last battle, honestly. :lol
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Diend and Decade can run quickly. Clock Up slows time. The Faiz Accel Vs. Clock Up fight was just Rule of Cool :P Also, even with an army, how does Diend survive Hyper Clock Up? Each Rider requires inserting a card, cocking the gun, and then returning it to it's neutral position, even when summoning in groups. The more Riders he attempts to summon, that's one more moment Agito or Caucasus could spend wailing on him, one more moment he has to spend visible, etc. You're all giving Diend the edge by assuming neither Agito or Caucasus would go after him first, too. |
To be fair, I never said DiEnd could summon an army, simply that he has one at his disposal. Which is true given the range of summonable riders he has. My logic was adhering to the belief he can only summon three at a time.
Also Momotaros/Yusuke/Den-O lost to one of Diend's summoned riders (can't remember who it was, I think it was someone from Kabuto though?), so I figure the strength of them depends on exactly who it is being summoned. |
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However, you do rise a good point. You see, Diend DID summon Caucasus one time. That'd be interesting at least. |
And that's under the assumption that he can summon Hyper Kabuto?
Decade can't even transform into Hyper Kabuto... |
DiEnd never summoned Riders in any form other than the base one. He does have cards for the main Riders and Final Form Rides, though.
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Diends' powers are being blown waaaaay out of proportion, he cannot summon an army but he does have access to one in trios. That being said I'd probably have to vote for him based on the powers that he ACTUALLY has and has displayed. He would be able to steal the Hyper Zecter. I think we can all recognize that he'd probably take it before Caucasus would notice. All he needs to do is take it to another world and leave it there. Caucasus' biggest advantage is now shut down and he is primed for Agito to beat him.
Diend goes invisible and chills to the end. I think at this point the other 2 would be on even footing in the battle. But I believe Agito would come out on top, though injured. Then we get some Riotrooper cannonfodder while Agito is weakened. He takes them out with some degree of trouble after being nearly drained against Caucasus. Diend goes Complete Form for the finish. I love Agito to death but I see this as the only logical conclusion to this battle. |
cuacases still has clock up...... hed still win...
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The smell of bovine fecal matter is strong with this one. Seriously, all DiEnd can do is summon three knock offs at a time ans take pot shots. That stands no chance against the likes of Agito and Caucasus(who I voted for).
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Current poll:
Agito: 4 Caucasus: 4 DiEnd: 10 |
FYI I voted Caucasus. I also don't get Diend's deal. Maybe it's assuming his presence stupidifies Agito and Caucasus to the point they could get beaten by a summoned Plat Form...
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While they may not be as strong as the real riders, they don't necessarily need to be. They just need to be strong enough to throw the opponent off guard while Diend goes and does his own thing. The Riotroopers are useless, but summoning characters like Sasword or Momotaros have fared pretty well for him in the past.
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