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Sevenlima 09-10-2015 05:01 AM
Why would be expensive ?

Deathryuger321 09-10-2015 04:18 PM
Creating, maintaining a channel is hard. It wouldn't make a profit, hence he would be wasting money. They couldn't handle a block how could they handle a channel?

ElConvoy 09-10-2015 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 555340)
With Nick, it's take it or leave it. Fall behind adapting Super Sentai is better then having no shows at all. Dino Charge is doing pretty good and let's hope future seasons turn out well.
I dont even mind the falling behind on Sentai part. In theory they now have more time to prepare a new show and come up with a good story and only have to adapt a certain Sentai when they think they can tell a good story with it.

Sevenlima 09-10-2015 04:31 PM
What if Saban had bought back the PR rights sooner ?

Matrixbeast 09-10-2015 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by GoseiWonder (Post 555349)
And impractical just for one series.

At least when Hasbro tried (and failed) they had multiple franchises to work with.
They even had Ponies and they bombed. Poor Hub...

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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 555403)
Why would be expensive ?
Lots of reasons. First it wouldn't be a basic cable station, meaning your audience would already be much smaller since you'd only be reaching viewers with whatever "Advanced" package their provider offers. By being a non standard channel, your viewer base would probably be less than 100,000, which isn't a lot. Second is that you'd have to have more than just a few shows to air. While they could easily dig up some older PR shows to put up, they'd have to have a much larger variety or else the channel would bomb in days. Making contracts to air syndicated shows (Or even create multiple entirely new series just for the channel) is pretty expensive, especially if you already know you have to wait multiple months just to see profits.
Put all of that together, and you're basically trying to score a hole in one from a putt off the moon. A lot of non standard channels are just offshoots of already successful channels as is (Disney, Nick, HBO, etc), so they have the money to make up for dips when the channel doesn't perform. But for a company like Saban? Making a channel is just asking for failure.

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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 555501)
What if Saban had bought back the PR rights sooner ?
I don't think it would've changed much, honestly. The only real difference is that we wouldn't have gotten MMPR 2, basically...

Guyver Spawn 09-10-2015 04:41 PM
Saban's version of Go-Onger would have been interesting to see.

Sevenlima 09-10-2015 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 555502)
They even had Ponies and they bombed. Poor Hub...



Lots of reasons. First it wouldn't be a basic cable station, meaning your audience would already be much smaller since you'd only be reaching viewers with whatever "Advanced" package their provider offers. By being a non standard channel, your viewer base would probably be less than 100,000, which isn't a lot. Second is that you'd have to have more than just a few shows to air. While they could easily dig up some older PR shows to put up, they'd have to have a much larger variety or else the channel would bomb in days. Making contracts to air syndicated shows (Or even create multiple entirely new series just for the channel) is pretty expensive, especially if you already know you have to wait multiple months just to see profits.
Put all of that together, and you're basically trying to score a hole in one from a putt off the moon. A lot of non standard channels are just offshoots of already successful channels as is (Disney, Nick, HBO, etc), so they have the money to make up for dips when the channel doesn't perform. But for a company like Saban? Making a channel is just asking for failure.


I don't think it would've changed much, honestly. The only real difference is that we wouldn't have gotten MMPR 2, basically...
I think if he had bought the rights back we'd get a better version of Operation Overdrive and we would have a better anniversary team-up.

Matrixbeast 09-10-2015 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 555504)
I think if he had bought the rights back we'd get a better version of Operation Overdrive and we would have a better anniversary team-up.
I'm very doubtful.

Sevenlima 09-10-2015 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 555506)
I'm very doubtful.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matrixbeast (Post 555502)
They even had Ponies and they bombed. Poor Hub...



Lots of reasons. First it wouldn't be a basic cable station, meaning your audience would already be much smaller since you'd only be reaching viewers with whatever "Advanced" package their provider offers. By being a non standard channel, your viewer base would probably be less than 100,000, which isn't a lot. Second is that you'd have to have more than just a few shows to air. While they could easily dig up some older PR shows to put up, they'd have to have a much larger variety or else the channel would bomb in days. Making contracts to air syndicated shows (Or even create multiple entirely new series just for the channel) is pretty expensive, especially if you already know you have to wait multiple months just to see profits.
Put all of that together, and you're basically trying to score a hole in one from a putt off the moon. A lot of non standard channels are just offshoots of already successful channels as is (Disney, Nick, HBO, etc), so they have the money to make up for dips when the channel doesn't perform. But for a company like Saban? Making a channel is just asking for failure.



I don't think it would've changed much, honestly. The only real difference is that we wouldn't have gotten MMPR 2, basically...
What if AMC make a deal with a larger company ?

Deathryuger321 09-10-2015 08:05 PM
What does AMC have to do with anything? Do you mean Saban? Because I don't think AMC needs any help with anything at the moment.

GreenPsychoRanger 09-10-2015 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathryuger321 (Post 555562)
What does AMC have to do with anything? Do you mean Saban? Because I don't think AMC needs any help with anything at the moment.
The only reason AMC even got brought up is because I mentioned it and FTWD throwing off their show schedule for Labor Day Weekend, like Nick did for PRDC.

Sevenlima 09-11-2015 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Deathryuger321 (Post 555562)
What does AMC have to do with anything? Do you mean Saban?
I mean larger companies like Fox

Sentai 09-11-2015 09:03 AM
I doubt seriously anyone will try making a large scale children's network again. They'd have to compete with Nick, Disney, and CN, for properties. The Hub worked for a while. Until they inexplicably cancelled GI Joe Renegades and rushed the final season on Prime. And continued showing game shows.. and I could go on. But back to my point. Nick has the property for now and they aren't perfect. The splitting seasons during the calendar year, making each PR season two years. But it could be worse. Disney, for one, won't take the series back unless they own it again. Or Saban Brands really sweetens the pot. Something I don't see happening on either end. And no one should want the show on Cartoon Network given their history of cancelling shows. Young Justice, Generator Rex, and I could go on for another few hours listing. Nick, sadly, is the best of a shitty situation.

Deathryuger321 09-11-2015 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 555673)
I mean larger companies like Fox
But again why did you mention AMC? They don't need to make deals with anyone.

Sevenlima 09-11-2015 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Deathryuger321 (Post 555736)
But again why did you mention AMC? They don't need to make deals with anyone.
I just say if the AMC could broadcast PR with no problem unless if they had a kids network channel.

Guyver Spawn 09-11-2015 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ElConvoy (Post 555499)
I dont even mind the falling behind on Sentai part. In theory they now have more time to prepare a new show and come up with a good story and only have to adapt a certain Sentai when they think they can tell a good story with it.
I don't mind staying behind Sentai as well. With Nick, if Power Rangers keeps on getting good ratings then Nick will keep on airing the show. At least Nick puts Power Rangers on a good time slot where CN puts their third party shows on horrible time slots. Not to mention I see ads for the newer seasons for PR, so at least they market Power Rangers.

As long if the show is good then I can careless what gets adapted or not.

Sevenlima 09-11-2015 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 555759)
I don't mind staying behind Sentai as well. With Nick, if Power Rangers keeps on getting good ratings then Nick will keep on airing the show. At least Nick puts Power Rangers on a good time slot where CN puts their third party shows on horrible time slots. Not to mention I see ads for the newer seasons for PR, so at least they market Power Rangers.

As long if the show is good then I can careless what gets adapted or not.
Do you approve the nick methods like splitting the show in two seasons ?

Guyver Spawn 09-11-2015 02:52 PM
I don't like the two season thing neither, but it's better then nothing. With Nick, Saban has to take it or leave it. As long if the ratings are good and kids buy the toys, Power Rangers is going to be on Nick. CN is not going to take Power Rangers, not many people have Disney XD and Saban is not going to let Disney air Power Rangers again. ABC Family and Discovery Family are not going to bother with it neither.

Sevenlima 09-11-2015 03:13 PM
Would be great if we have a channel like Fox Box.It was great times.

Guyver Spawn 09-11-2015 03:30 PM
Saturday morning blocks for kids are dead now. The 2000's decade was when they where dining out. Fox Kids died in 2002, KidsWB! died out in 2008, and Fox Box died out with 4kids in 2009.

Kamen Rider Vega 09-11-2015 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Guyver Spawn (Post 555788)
Saturday morning blocks for kids are dead now. The 2000's decade was when they where dining out. Fox Kids died in 2002, KidsWB! died out in 2008, and Fox Box died out with 4kids in 2009.
I miss those times. I was a wee lad in Texas waking up at five in the morning to watch yugioh, magination, spectacular spider man all of em now that I'm a teenager I wish they were back in my life. :cry

Guyver Spawn 09-11-2015 03:50 PM
The 90's was the last good decade for Saturday morning blocks for kids. After 2000, they started to decline with Fox Kids dead after 2002 and KidsWB! starting to lose rating after Yu-Gi-Oh ended in 2005 or 2006.

Deathryuger321 09-11-2015 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 555753)
I just say if the AMC could broadcast PR with no problem unless if they had a kids network channel.
The point is that they wouldn't need to. AMC is not a channel for children shows, it isn't that they need to make a deal with a bigger company it's that they don't want a children's block. You treat it as if it's their life long dream to have PR but it isn't. I hate the nick formula but right now it is the only option and even if there were more options AMC would not bo one of them.

TLDR: AMC doesn't want or need a childrens block.

Sevenlima 09-11-2015 06:35 PM
Soon or late something will gonna happen.

Deathryuger321 09-11-2015 06:41 PM
Or they could stay on nick and keep falling further behind. We fans might not like it but I doubt a better deal will open up.

Guyver Spawn 09-11-2015 06:43 PM
I'm pretty sure Saban likes to have Power Rangers on Nick anyways. A more popular channel means more exposure which means more ratings for them.

Sevenlima 09-11-2015 07:10 PM
In the next year the contract will expired anyways.

Guyver Spawn 09-11-2015 07:26 PM
They will likely renew it for another two years.

Sevenlima 09-11-2015 07:31 PM
you don't know that.

SPLIT LIP 09-11-2015 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 555854)
you don't know that.
We never know anything that hasn't happened yet.

It is extremely likely, however.

Sevenlima 09-12-2015 06:34 PM
Would be possible a pair of mentors ?

GreenPsychoRanger 09-12-2015 06:36 PM
Either very horrible. Or very good. I'm betting on the former.

ComicGuy89 09-12-2015 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 556198)
How would PR in 2020 ?
A bit too early to tell. By that time the sequel to the movie would probably be out, or about to be released.

My money is on it being still moderately successful, and with the changes Judd Lynn has made, probably a decent, maybe great show.

Guyver Spawn 09-12-2015 07:05 PM
I hope Judd Lynn will work for Power Rangers 2017/2018 and 2019/2020. I would hate if Saban pulls a COD on us with producers and writers (like Jonathan Tzachor in 2017/2018 and Judd Lynn for 2019/2020).

Sevenlima 09-14-2015 03:54 AM
And i hope we don't have another hybrid season in 2017/2018.

Kamen Rider Lolita 09-14-2015 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sevenlima (Post 556605)
And i hope we don't have another hybrid season in 2017/2018.
I don’t think this will happen. I can’t see a joint ToQger and Ninninger adaptation working. Unless the production team find a way to make it work, which they could. Saban might decide to skip ToQger and just adapt Ninninger instead. Guess we’ll find out eventually.

TokuKnight89 09-14-2015 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Lolita (Post 556673)
I don’t think this will happen. I can’t see a joint ToQger and Ninninger adaptation working. Unless the production team find a way to make it work, which they could. Saban might decide to skip ToQger and just adapt Ninninger instead. Guess we’ll find out eventually.
It might be time for ToQger fans to face facts. Ninninger will probably win the day in the long run because ninjas have and likely will continue to work as a viable theme. To be honest, I still have questions regarding ToQ'Oh as I doubt its transformation would be acceptable to western children (note what happened in a few episodes with the front half of Red's Ressha and I rest my case). However, I do think that a few elements are more than viable for fusion with the Ninninger adaptation. The Kurliner Robos might work as Momo uses a train and the "Keeper _____" monsters from the Shadow Line could also work in a chess game (the recent Dino Charge episode with the Puzzler actually validated that assumption). Any fusion would have to be done carefully and with the advance knowledge that Ninninger will receive the primary focus.

Kamen Rider Lolita 09-14-2015 05:22 PM
「@TokuKnight89」
Between ToQger and Ninninger, which installment had the more successful toyline?
I know Ninninger is currently Bandai’s third best-selling toyline of the year.

ElConvoy 09-14-2015 05:25 PM
Ninninger should end up being the more successfull one. Still waiting on the final numbers.

Kamen Rider Lolita 09-14-2015 05:41 PM
「@ElConvoy」
I was thinking that Bandai might encourage Saban to adapt the series which had the more successful toyline.
Even if ToQger and Ninninger’s toylines are on par with each other, Saban might decide to adapt the series with the motif they believe is more appealing to the target audience.
Adapting Ninninger into a Power Rangers installment shouldn’t be an issue; Kakuranger, Hurricaneger and Shinkenger were adapted with Western-friendly/ adjusting elements.


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