Mosasaurus is not really that close to a Megalodon. The fins and body shape are different. I would like to see nautilus too, but let's call it ammonite because they're bigger and more ancient looking.

These are all awesome ideas XD love it

Ammonite and Nautilus... Not bad ideas. My only critic is this, those two have shells, so does Archelon. Do we need two shell hacking forms?


Why not go with an ancient scorpion? I know it sounds weird, but scorpions used to be very large and seafaring creatures. So why not go with that? Or some form of ancient crustacean?

I said ammonite should be used instead of nautilus. I think the best set is plesio, mosasaur, archelon, and megalodon.

I didn't mean to use them both. I was referencing to what they were.

Why not some sort of aincent cephalopod like squids they seem to be a good choice

why not a horseshoe crab?

I mean it is one of the only non-extinct dinosaurs.

and they look like rad defensive monsters.

For defense we should go with an archelon.

I guess my small problem with Megalodon and Archelon is that, while technically they're prehistoric sea creatures, they just don't scream DINO to me. One's a big 'ol shark and the other is a big 'ol turtle thing. I just think there might be more interesting and more dinosaur looking marine reptiles to choose from.

Your problem is a valid one. But we want people to at least recognize what we're going for here. I know when I planned my own Dino Rider a while back, I planned on using more unknown dinos that lead up to the more known ones. But what can you do? The masses wants recognizability.

Ammonites are pretty ancient feeling. Even the Nautilus of modern day feels like it's late to the party.

I'll leave this one to you guys I really dont know much about aquatic dinos.

Anyway how will we make the dinos for Aqua form work though.. Thero has armor parts, Quadro has weapons. If we're going for the long-range combat specialist build I suggested.. then maybe.. different gun attachments ( like how machineguns can be outfited with a bayonet or a grenade launcher).. Yeah what do you think?

I know nothing of guns and the such. If that's the road we take for Aqua, then I'm sitting this one out.

so, no on the shoehorn crab?

I mean, I feel like the fact that shoehorn crabs aren't extinct sort of defeats the concept.

Horseshoe!! Not Shoehorn!

I guess that sums up just about how much I know about the creature right there. :p

My comment still stands, though.

Both you and Sano said Shoehorn. Both are to blame! >_<

The water dinos can be....

- Plesiosaurus
- Icthyosaurus
- Elasmosaurus

Plesio- Sniper
Ichthyo- Shotgun
Ammonite- Gattling

Aren't those nearly identical?

One thing we all agree on is plesiosaurus. We need three more then and let's make them distinct from each other. For the second dinosaur, let's do an aquatic dinosaur with a shell. I'd really want an archelon, but another option out there is ammonite. I don't think guns work for the aquatic dinosaurs. We already did weapons for quad. Guns also is copying plezuon from kuoryuger because of its finisher attack.

But does Quad do ranged? You gotta be able to do ranged.

Quad does have ranged but is limited to the extending lance since its priority is tanking damage and dealing heavy amounts of it up close ....like a knight .

I think this form should do the opposite have have multiple options for ranged combat while having limited melee.

I don't think we should necessarily give aqua form a new gun or even a gun at all for each dino. Just a long range weapon with different attachment parts that do different things.

or have them be armcannons that attach to the arms and shoulders

I,m thinking said dino parts could be dinosaurs heads that replace the front end of the main gun


like:

Dino1 - freeze shot
Dino 2- water stream
Dino 3- A bayonet that can be fired like a harpoon attached to a wire
Dino 4- full auto machinegun/ shotgun that fires dinosaur /shark teeth

Finisher could be all dino parts attaching to the main gun and firing a combined burst

still...just a suggestion

I love this idea. I think we need to go with this.

Suggestion time!
I think some good marine reptiles for Aqua Form are:
Elasmosaurus (like the Plesiosaurus but much bigger and menacing)
Shonisaurus (A big-a*s Ichtyosaur)
Kronosaurus
Nothosaurus

Also, I like the idea of each "dinosaur" giving a different kind of projectile to a main gun, but I think other than this, different creatures should change the appearance of the main gun, like this:
Main form: Rifle/Elasmosaurus/water stream
Melee/ranged form: Bayonet (pulls a blade folded into the rifle and inserts the Shonisaurus head in the muzzle)/Shonisaurus/harpoon strike
Rapid form: Minigun(kind of, but smaller. Folds the frontal part of the rifle and holds the weapon upside-down)/Kronosaurus/automatic multiple shots
Elemental form: Dual guns (Detaches a smaller gun inserted in the rifle right above the "primary" grip and turn downwards the "secondary" grip to form a second, bigger, gun)/Nothosaurus/freeze shot

So, what do you think?

I like Yuu's idea the best. We all agreed on plesiosaurus, so we can't change that. I think we need a megalodon power up. The third can be kronosaurus. The fourth I don't care about.
Adding the Dinos to Yuu's idea:
Water stream: Plesiosaurus
Ice blast: ?
Bayonet: Kronosaurus
Gatling: Megalodon

What about the aerial dino form?

There's the pterodactyl, archaeopteryx, ramphorynchus, tupuxuara & quetzalcoatlus.

Were focusing on the aquatic form for right now

Ice blast AND Water stream? To me, either of those could fill the "elemental mode" quota, but both seems a bit much. I think replacing one of them with some kind of super long range scope or barrel might make the form a little more versatile.

I personally don't like the idea of the Megalodon. It is cool, I agree, but it isn't even from the mesozoic period! I don't think an amber with DNA from creatures with millions of years between their respective epochs makes much sense.

We're not going to exact accuracy here. It's just the idea. I personally like the Megalodon.

Dienosuchus, perhaps?
Ancient relative to alligators, so perhaps it has some sort of water connection?

On the weapons subject. Someone said something about a long range, sniper, thing? Why not the Plesio? It long necked, so that makes it rather ideal to me.

but what kind of ammo will it use?

If we do go with a sniper mode, I agree that Plesio makes sense for it.

As for ammo. I mean... Okay. I know I said Ice AND Water seems a bit much. However. There's one PRIMARY elemental mode for each form, but wasn't the idea that all of the modes would have at least undertones of that element in them? The ammo could just be ice-based across the board.
As I understand, the reason Megalodon is proposed as a Gatling weapon is because of the rows of teeth. So that, as a mid-range weapon attachment, would fire rapid rows of ice teeth. The sniper mode would fire long range ice bullets, and the third mode could be short range shotgun-like ice blasts. The fourth mode could be a water cannon of sorts.

In battle, it could play out like this:
-He transforms into Aqua, then switches to the cannon mode which allows him to suck up and store water into the universal gun weapon.
-From there, he gives the monster a good drench before switching into one of the three range options (short, mid, or long) depending on the situation.
-While they're still soaked, he combats them with his weaponry until they're frozen solid.
-Once they're trapped in ice, he switches to the finisher which combines all of the attachments onto the gun weapon at once and he blasts them to oblivion.

As much as I like the harpoon idea, I think the three different range options might work better conceptually for the form as a whole. It's an idea. ;)

Why is there three, shouldn't there be four? I like the 3 range modes, but we need to mix it up like gatling, harpoon, etc. We could do short range, long range, harpoon, and gatling.

Maybe we can combine the harpoon and the close range into a bayonet-like attachment that can be used for melee , fire like a harpoon or be used like a grappling hook.

Now if there's one thing missing its a burst/ grenade launcher like mode, maybe one that fires compressed water that upon hitting, releases the pressure and blows up like a sack of tnt

I think the water cannons could have that function as well I mean you think shoulder mounted cannons and I thing explosions...Kalish-splosions but explosions all the same

just have the hisatsu be all his cannons attached to his body and he just barrages the monster to nothing.

Wait are we going with handheld multi-mode guns of body attached guns. I'm fine with either but I'd like to hear what you guys think