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DaiRiderRX

08-25-2012 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowfall (Post 47491)

It's only been "defeated" by means of blind hope and ignorance, there's no point of arguing it further. Notice how every single one of the polls only mentions characters that were in Sentai? Even the original question of "would you like to see PR villians?" only used Goldar as an example, not Lord Zedd or the Psycho Rangers, who would obviously be far more popular with PR fans. Bluefin are going to more effort to distribute the figures, but they're still only distributing them. Not making them. With Shinken Red's still self warming in Toys R Us, what sense does it make for them to release MORE figures on a mass scale just for the small US market?

I don't want to be a jerk about it, if you guys are having fun discussing possibilities, but it just seems like one big fan dream with people refusing to see logic.

yet ONCE AGAIN, you ignore that bluefin has gotten figuarts made solely for the US market. the DBZ line and characters like Vile form D-arts are proof of this. Its like you say what you want and when given examples that prove you wrong you stick your fingers in your ears and just go LALALALALALALALA!

Power Rangers is a bigger market than DBZ and Megaman combine here in america, a Lord Zedd, like i've said before, would sell GANGBUSTERS

in fact, i'd probably willing to bet a Lord Zedd figuart would be one of the best selling figures bluefin tamashii could ever bring over here.

Bluefin Tamashii is the distributor over here for figuarts, they don't produce the figures, but they got a say in what gets made for the market, as the countless Megaman and DBZ polls have shown. the figuarts DBZ line would be DEAD if it wasn't for american sales

ZeoRangerV

08-25-2012 03:40 AM

To be fair the Dragonball Z characters are still Dragonball Z characters though. They appeared in a show that was massive in Japan, and whether its bigger over here or not its still reasonably popular in Japan otherwise they wouldn't keep churning out OVAs and videos games of it over there.

The examples of Megaman and DBZ are all well and good, but Bluefin are yet to show Tamashii Nations make a character that was created by the US for the US. I DO think that may happen for characters like Lord Zedd since he was extremely popular, but I agree with Snowfall that a lot of people are probably overestimating just how many Power Rangers Figuarts we're going to get that aren't just ranger teams with Sentai counterparts.

Snowfall

08-25-2012 03:42 AM

Megaman and DBZ are not Power Rangers. Both of those franchises have HUGE fanbases over here, primarily with older teens/adults who collect those kinds of things.

I'm not claiming that Power Rangers isn't a popular show, but it's primary audiance is kids and parents are not willing to spend $40+ on a single action figure. That's been proven time and time again. Everyone claimed Shinken Red would sell gangbusters in the US, if they'd only take a chance and release him and look what happened.

And again, the single biggest flaw in your argument is that none of Bluefins polls have once listed a Power Ranger character, only the ones with Sentai counterparts. Perhaps if the figures they're currently bringing over manage to sell well enough, they'll take an interest in making Power Rangers exclusive ones, I won't rule that out as a possibility. But right now, it's just not happening. They're taking notice of the US fans and that's the first step, but let's try to run before we can crawl.

DaiRiderRX

08-25-2012 03:43 AM

Power rangers has a larger fanbase over here in america though, power ranger is more of a household name than DBZ or megaman.

every young person in thier 20's would see a lord zedd figuart and go "HOLY SH*T I REMEMBER HIM! THAT'S SO COOL!" and might just impulse buy it because of that strong nostalgia

like it said, its not a garuntee, but its a WAY more possibiity than you think

Sentai

08-25-2012 05:49 AM

The flaw in your logic, Snowfall, is that Zedd was released in Japan. Saban/Toei dubbed and released almost every season of MMPR in Japan now. Including episodes with Zedd and the Psycho Rangers. So it does have a Japanese Audiance, they would know who and what he is, so they could make a Figuart of him and sell it in Japan. Even as a webshop exclusive. So you're arguement about how He's an America Only Character and he'd never sell in Japan? Invalid.

And the arguement about how Kamen Rider and Sentai are mainly a kid property? Then explain to me how Figuarts sell at all. Since, as you said, more kids watch it then adults. That arguement makes no sense. If adult collecters didn't buy Figuarts: Bluefin wouldn't exist, we'd never get Figuarts in our local TRU's, and Figuarts would never leave Japan's shores.

And I'll end with this. Unless you work for Bluefin, are in every meeting, or have mental powers, you don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. This is all speculation. So to talk in such absolutes, like any of us know for absolutely sure what's going to happen, is what's foolish.

Look how about many people said they'd skip Goseiger. Look how that all worked out for you.

Kamen Rider Meteor

08-25-2012 06:41 AM

I don't suppose anybody here knows the date in Sept when Red Buster is released do they? I can't seem to find anything other then the month.

Snowfall

08-25-2012 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 47510)

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Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 47510)

And the arguement about how Kamen Rider and Sentai are mainly a kid property? Then explain to me how Figuarts sell at all. Since, as you said, more kids watch it then adults. That arguement makes no sense. If adult collecters didn't buy Figuarts: Bluefin wouldn't exist, we'd never get Figuarts in our local TRU's, and Figuarts would never leave Japan's shores.

They sell in Japan and there is a limited fanbase over here. Enough to be worth bringing over in limited quantities, but not for mass retail. This is why they're being sold through specialist retailers and not showing up in Toys R Us any more.

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Originally Posted by Sentai (Post 47510)

And I'll end with this. Unless you work for Bluefin, are in every meeting, or have mental powers, you don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. This is all speculation. So to talk in such absolutes, like any of us know for absolutely sure what's going to happen, is what's foolish.

Yet it hasn't stopped you and several others from picking apart my every word and trying to prove how I must be wrong and you must be right. I'm simply stating facts. Bluefin are a distributor and are currently bringing over Toku Figuarts from Japan. They've been asking for fan feedback once or twice, but there's no indication any of those figures will arrive in the US with Power Rangers branding and there's certainly been no mention of Power Rangers specific characters being made. Feel free to speculate, all I've been saying is that the chances are slim.

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Meteor (Post 47518)

I don't suppose anybody here knows the date in Sept when Red Buster is released do they? I can't seem to find anything other then the month.

They usually don't tell us the specific date until closer to the release. We should find out soon.

MidoGreen

08-25-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Kamen Rider Meteor (Post 47518)

I don't suppose anybody here knows the date in Sept when Red Buster is released do they? I can't seem to find anything other then the month.

Once it's Septermber, the release date should be listed on the Tamashii page, along with the release date for all of their other products for the month.

Kamen Rider Meteor

08-25-2012 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by MidoGreen (Post 47535)

Once it's Septermber, the release date should be listed on the Tamashii page, along with the release date for all of their other products for the month.

Thanks for the info guys , i appreciate it

Den-O

08-25-2012 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowfall (Post 47521)

Only the first season of MMPR was dubbed for Japan, as well as the movie. So yeah, they technically know who he is, but even if he was a web exclusive, that's a pretty obscure character to make over the hundreds of really popular Sentai/Kamen Rider characters. You might as well be asking for Ivan Ooze, he at least played a major role in the movie.

They sell in Japan and there is a limited fanbase over here. Enough to be worth bringing over in limited quantities, but not for mass retail. This is why they're being sold through specialist retailers and not showing up in Toys R Us any more.

Yet it hasn't stopped you and several others from picking apart my every word and trying to prove how I must be wrong and you must be right. I'm simply stating facts. Bluefin are a distributor and are currently bringing over Toku Figuarts from Japan. They've been asking for fan feedback once or twice, but there's no indication any of those figures will arrive in the US with Power Rangers branding and there's certainly been no mention of Power Rangers specific characters being made. Feel free to speculate, all I've been saying is that the chances are slim.

They usually don't tell us the specific date until closer to the release. We should find out soon.

I for one agree with you 100%

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