So far, many people said: Ohhh, I'm sure you'll like Den-O. Someone said I'd like it just because I enjoyed Go-Onger, but just because I like a comedy Sentai, it doesn't mean it has to be the same with Rider. And, as said before, most movies featuring Den-O characters were rather annoying. At least the four main Imagin. I liked Kotaro and Teddy, but they're not in the series itself. And Zeronos and Deneb seem pretty likeable, too. Funnily enough, according to the Let's go Kamen Riders Net movies, I'm Zeronos xD

No one in Kiva is free from Kiva's flaws, but most characters from the '86-side seem much more likeable. Though I did like Wataru. Most of the show. With exceptions. Haha ;)

It's not that I don't want to give the Den-O a chance, but if all you've seen so far had the potential to really annoy you, it will be somewhat weird to watch the show.

If the four imagin are enough to annoy you, well... that's gonna be interesting.
The initial stretch as the Imagin slowly gather was kind of a drag to me, specially since at that point Momo is quite antagonistic towards Ryotaro.

I think we can fit Kivat in there too, best belt ever.

Sakurai Yuuto is AWESOME! He is my favorite Secondary Rider. Deneb is just great! DENEBU!!!

Much better than Sagark. That was just weird.

I always considered Sagark the result of the production team realizing a little bit late that he was supposed to be a character as well.

What happened to the poor thing anyways? Can't remember his fate after Taiga.. well you know.

I've no idea, honestly.

That's just peachy. :P

Just started Wizard 40. I'm glad that the last few handfuls of episodes have had some actual story development, though I have to admit the show has grown on me a little bit. Beast's Hyper form is probably one of the more hideous things I've seen in a long, long time. The human form of this episodes Phantom is a weird one, that's for sure.

Too bad you are coming close to where the show goes down hill. At least, unlike 555 and Kabuto, they waited until episode 45 to drop the ball instead of episode 40.

No, masochism is why you watch Kiva.

No, that is Decade. Kiva you watch because of characters, designs, and story.

Anyway, where is the new LWW thread for 13-15?

Two of the three of which are terrible.

Kain is right. Kiva, Emperor Form, IXA and IXA Rising, Saga, Dark Kiva, the Fangire, even the clothing they wear, all beautiful things. Right down to Jirou's Bomber Jacket. Otoya and Wataru are excellent. Megumi and Yuri. Jirou! Jirou man, Jirou! The story had one or two or three issues. Ideas they introduced and never showed again. But Kiva is still a good series.

Awesome, I can't wait to see what other twists and turns happen in this series.

I enjoyed Decade for the characters, and love the designs in a weird way for it, and loved everything from Kiva.

I haven't met a Kamen Rider I haven't liked, except for some small issues from Fourze.

One word: Inconsistency. Most of the characters in Decade didn't act as characters, but as roles. Meaning that at some points, Tsukasa was a good guy, he could do EVERYTHING the situation required (for no apparent reason, especially him speaking Grongi), at some points he was a total dick (Blade's world) and in battle, he always had some words of wisdom about the rider he was fighting with (even though he may have treated him like a peace of shit before). No. Just no.
And what the hell was up with Kaito? That guy is completely nuts and NEVER makes sense.

^Can't agree more.
*high-five*

Kaito... Super Hero Taisen... DIEND?! ONORE-DIEND!

That's kind of my thing. :p
ONORE DIENDOOOOOOOOO!!!

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Maybe Kaito should see a doctor to talk about his obsession with Tsukasa. "You lied to me! I'LL DESTROY EVERYTHING!!!!11!!1"

Unrequited love can be a horrible thing.

Love? Kaito? Who did he steal it from?

I finally got around to watching another episode of W/Double and I am certainly loving the show already. It's just a fun theme, I love the antics and the detective premise, along with the two minds coming together as one badass hero thing. It makes me think of Dragon Ball Z and the fusions like Gogeta, Gotenks, or my personal favorite, Vegito.

I look forward to more episodes and seeing how this show plays out, and I may even kick up Fourze again soon. (I'm trying my hardest not to start Decade already)

I enjoyed that Tsukasa was able to do whatever the situation called for honestly, it's nothing different than Tendou's bending the universe to his will. Though honestly I think I like Tsukasa more than Tendou. I liked Kaitou a lot, just not at the end of Super Hero Taisen even though it was the movie that inspired me to watch Decade.

And that, my friends, is what's called "Overselling a series."

*Nods*

Tendou didn't actually do that.
The reason the universe bent over backwards for Tendou is because he simply never doubted himself. He turned a bad situation into a good one because instead of falling to his knees and contemplating why he lost, he simply kept moving forward. He never broke down, he never cried, and he never panicked (Except for the one occasion where he did. And what happened? He was decisively curbstomped).

Tsukasa could lose, spend half the episode brooding, be a complete douche to Yusuke and co, and then win because the plot needed Tsukasa to win so it could move to the next world.

As you are right about Tsukasa, Tendou did in fact cry, lose confidence in himself, been a jackass to the other Riders and yes bent the universe to his will like getting the Hyper Zector from the future even though it got destroyed (Okay they were all probably one time occurrences but still). I actually really like both Tsukasa and Tendou just saying Tendou isn't infallible and that's what I liked about him.

Honestly I love Decade, I know it has tons of flaws but it doesn't stop me from loving it, however it is definitely on the lower end of the Rider shows I've watched.

Screw you guys, I love Diend :lol

I love DiEnd too.

I understand that you like it, despite all its flaws. Same goes for me with Wizard- I could write more about the flaws then the good sides of the series, but I have to admit that I kinda have a soft spot for it. ;)

Are we talking about horrible shows we love? xD

Guess its my turn to say I freaking adore Kabuto even though it is pretty bad xD

I am pretty sure you're going to regret saying that. :lol

DiEnd?! Super Hero Taisen! ONORE-DIEND! I'm not forgiving him for that >_> Or the writers.

Let it go. Super Hero Taisen was crap BEFORE the Diend stuff started happening :lol

"You hurt my feelings, Decade! All I ever show you is cruelty and deceit and you repay me by briefly duping me for the sake of the greater good? I'M GONNA KILL EVERYONE!"

Read in the Superboy Prime voice. Diend was not flattered by that movie.

I was enjoying it before that happened. I was loving it, honestly. Even Tsukasa's crazyass hair.

:lol And the arguement has a winner.

Agreed.

I honestly think Super Hero Taisen only had two major flaws from making it a truly awesome movie: 1. The Gokaigers not knowing that this was some plan of Marvelous' and 2. DiEnd going crazy psycho villain.

I love Kabuto too, especially for the characters.

Lol we'll see I heard the ending of Kabuto was bad and loved that.