Oh yeah, because the muscles that are clearly visible hear are just in our imagination, huh ;)

He's got a toned stomach from working out, but what are these muscles you claim to see?

Well, you talked about Riders that look like they'd last an hour in a gym and hold themselves in a fight- here you go. A toned stomach meas he's got visible muscles there so.... yeah, they can be seen.

Fair shout. He's still pretty skinny looking for a superhero in my opinion, though.

But looks shouldn't be a trait you should judge the quality of a hero by. It's more about what they do than what they appear like.

If we go by who can last in a fight then one of the most recent would be Ryo Matsuda the guy who plays Gridon. I dont have any pics of him but he was the Karate Champion of West Japan not that long ago.

And when they're supposed to be average joes I'd agree, but I believe soldier Riders should look the part.

This a problem? No seriously, people find this a problem? Does it affect the quality of the show, story, fight scenes?

Also for Kenzaki, here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v9...u/Scan0010.jpg

And they do. They're in shape and can quite obviously hold themselves in a fight. Now if they were quite overweight or anorexic, then yes they wouldn't be right for the job. But they are neither of those. They look well built, toned, and muscular, just not in the Hollywood style that a lot of people are use to.

This thread is just going to devolve into a beefcake showcase, I just know it... :lol

Also, I had no idea Mutsuki's actor was so well defined.:lol